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Today is the third of August at 950 for one of those typical midsummer hot, humid days in Delaware, when the deer fly stinging their

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worst and the sun bleaches the sand. This is CA West logger. And I want to tell you about a swamp in Delaware.

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It's known today to the few who know it has 250 years ago as the Cedar Swamp, situated in Blackbird 100 and new castle county,

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Cedar Swamp is bordered on the east by the Delaware River. On the north, it's bounded by the sluggish drainage system

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of Blackbird Creek. And on the, on the South by a stream known today as the Smyrna river, was formerly known as Duck Creek and by

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the Indians as Quinn Quinn go sip us. The nearest land route to the Cedar Swamp is to Odessa via the DuPont highway.

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And from thence is2 Matthews corners, stump corners, and Taylor's bridge. Immediately east of Taylor's bridges, the Delaware and between you and

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the river stretches the seat or swap, broken up here and thereby short fingers of fast land. Cedar Swamp, as well as

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all the land lying between queen, Queen, go Cyprus and EPA quantum and Craig was once the property of the Delaware Indian chief macaques.

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It earliest owner on record in 1681 that was surveyed free from Herman, a 1200 acre plot of land called good land,

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adjacent to the cedar or cypress swamp, as it was also known. One of the landmarks was a creek on the edge of

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the swamp known as the Cedar Creek. And here I'm quoting from an old bead by the Indians called when Sacco surface

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and by some called Morris listens creek. More assistance house was shown on a drawing of the land made for E from Herman

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by the surveyor Richard Noble. This same drawing incidentally shows two ponds of water in the swamp. A maple tree, white oak, a red oak,

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and a Spanish yoke used as markers on Herman's property line. And a stretch of marsh pasture land was referred to as being excellent,

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good for cattle, horses, etc. None of the historians have done more than my casual comment about Cedar Swamp. And to learn, learn more about it,

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we must find folk in formance whose daily lives have been influenced by it. Today. I'm going to talk to Mr. Orval knew

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them and Mr. Frederick Bell who live in Blackbird 100. And I'm going to ask them some questions and let

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them give you answers in their own words about the Cedar Swamp. Mr. Know them. You spend your boyhood down here, didn't you?

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Yes, You were you born down this way? Has been sitting now. I say when how old were you when you came over here to your room?

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What did the Cedar Swamp look like here when you were a boy with a lot of trees and addtwo and heifers from the foreign.

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Money napkins all stand. We've all been cleaned but it was all the time given the the tide had yeah, the time and coming back and wrote,

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did they shut down any of those trees are dead. They try to get out of the swamp. Swamp that time.

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Tell me a little bit about that today. Anthony saw mills there today or not after the bank went down, the demand moved some

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zonules area when the bank reserves. Somebody run all three song and how loud show or without oxygen and what they use for lumber

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and cause the top street environment with all made row javelin quarter my route because it was bargain getting MST, we'll call it a cross.

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Some of them road was my long crossed, I think Bill. And it had sneaked the logs to the roads all times is try to map.

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How about shingles? Allow got our columns. The channel was about four feet too much on the rise for the neighbors.

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Get them dogs out and make Xing Zheng because I had a straight grained on them, no updates. In other words, there was an older swamp

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under the presence. Why must have been fed him rare log Zimbabwe, Sugar Bear, for-fee going to make

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pretty good shingles for the main lexical chains. Some of them still own the bones around here now some of

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them are back there. Good long while by 50 year ago. I wanted to ask you a little bit about animals

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down there and that seat or swamp. What kind of animals have you seen that? When I knew the swamp is all cabin more, tab Marshall and sailed in magnetic field

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in FY20 or after the bank went out and started rather than must scratch scratch out. And how about birds? What kind of birds?

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There were no virgin now and adults. Burgesses as Jonestown where you do a duck still come into the OS. You know, what kind of ducts they are?

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Mostly bile ducts and tails. How about flowers? Any flowers in there? Well, I didn't notice nomial Florida causes

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feeling about seven feet from one word when it broke out in the yard grass growing on a disadvantage now and Merkel.

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And he's getting too high for, for most crashed living. People wondered where that comes from. The field is playing in to raise it up.

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Nobody them shame, but no. Actually, that's your question was where there's gum, VM is about eight feet muddy

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near now you feel is play gene. How about varies? It varies down, up are swapped what to

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call it the upper Swamp, these to be a cranberry bog there. But of course it, I get back at him, killed it laid out that

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Dunaway in course algebra, you should be plenty huckleberry generic tag. Ramp up in the upper swarm of white cedar, that's all remain as a swamp. Swamp today.

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Did they use any part of the swamp for pasture? When as far as you remember? Going back to the course,

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I've heard people say these two till our daily deal with quantitative values. So nice to grow great craps out there. But the tidal wave, let me take that back to

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the bank away and that was the end of the farmland. Was the was it pretty marshy? I mean, if you've tried to walk walk in it,

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I'm talking about when you were a boy. Oh yeah. You were hard to get over that time. What's more solid now?

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Ab is also sought new made much. Mr. Know them There's a historical record of a tidal wave coming across the swap. This was many years ago.

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What the old folks say about that? Well, I heard one my house and got me clean up here in the swamp and tie

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went down and without an ideal gas times the house. Guilt to get anybody killed in that tidal wave.

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Well, and a harder one partner gets rounded and that was all. His name was done. Durham much sounds like one of

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those mixed up Indian people from over in the chessboard. Mr. Newt, a mirror farm. Do you formerly owned

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bordered right on the Cedar Swamp. Didn't have my back and had to this one. How many acres did you have on that farm? Well, there's a 137 about 15,

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17 edges in marshlands was a good land that bordered on the marsh, soy and a tail clean down datetime for the Bagua.

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Now, you showed me one day when I visit you some Indian relics over there that you've picked that, yeah. Tell me about those. What did

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they come out of one field? One lot there, one place and it was about integrating, did ground, right?

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Black. And all are found all these axes and spears and Josh in this place you gather from that must have been

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an Indian canceled last domain. Must domain. Because I didn't find nowhere else on just shame, That's one spot about

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an acre lawn we spot here. Tell me Mr. Newton believed to be some crabs down arrow, but you went on crab and trips.

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Tell me about the grant. But when Figma phone with a hole in the modern reach down and get framed,

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wouldn't get MS. Craved right-click outlet was all grown up now made no flashy and they're like these to be did the what the,

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what kind of food it and make those graphs, make crab cakes or what? We'd clean enzymes that way. Eat the whole crap.

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Now I want to talk to Frederick bell, neighbor of Mr. Newt hymns. And Mr. Bell knows this area very thoroughly to Fred to tell us

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something about the berries in that in that seat or swap. I never picked any Huff of various herself with her deal residents say

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around 50 years ago that there were lots of Huckleberry Ridge in the Maple from northwest to the theater show off and Hey,

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you should take umbrella, stick to hold the umbrella on the bow shoes and knock the British umbrella and

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bag of helpful barriers are fast, get them and carry them out and somebody over as vendors share, funny, um,

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there were very large watershed election there and like clams be figures of man's arm around a can faith long and often times

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a snake shaped feed on Huff of variation. On the old timers are pretty tough and hospi would find snakes coiled around the bushes.

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They leave the hospital barriers that end of the day because they didn't think too much as reptiles. And then about the same time in

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the Northwest part of the Shroff made for swamp was my phone and stuff. No salt water and

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enablers are really a shorter snake harboring a man named rag and or genre are used to live on a patient, lamb, Mab, I believe,

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David Veins millimeters at Johnson. And Johnson has left it in about 1848. The horse and wagon when we're headed for California,

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just come up and we never knew that there are many snakes of all kinds around that section of the swamp and the spring a year,

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these ton of fun stuff around, freeze your figures or watch out for all coiled up and wonder if their drive and they

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didn't trend and more a little too soon, left bare hands. Then they were crammed various drew in certain sections

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of the swamp and early date to claim cram, very rich. Miss Newton did that. If you ever see any snakes down there,

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seem funny snake, big ones. All big snakes in there. You know, the old people used to say that you get the skin on one of those snakes.

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I don't know whether it's the kind of rowdy or not. You had rheumatism put around your waist? Yes. Rheumatism. Ever hear that?

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Lot she had once I've seen GOD wrongdoing, getting away from Y of I want to talk a little more about the swamp today.

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Does is it serve any purpose today? Oh, joints and muskrat and place now principally for muskrat and documented force a duck

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out of the old drawing that I referred to show two ponds down there. You don't have any recollection of? No, no, no. No, no.

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In poems. Fred, the plat of the e from Herman land that I referred to before shows a house.

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They're owned by Morris, listed in 680, the others right? Now there's a list in the house down there near the mouth of what was then

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the Cedar Creek given to women for soko safest city in these colder than there was Cedar Creek there and that

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was the portion those lists and farm are now owned by Willard from owned by Mr. Willard time and apparently the mass of the sheet or Craig came out about

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in front of our Mr. Willard now live. And that was was that formerly that was formerly listed property, wasn't it?

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That was formulas. One hour long ago. It was when list and this is the last live there. You got any idea?

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And a less thans live in there. And in your memory, mr. Feminist family lived there in 1848, mayo.

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So when horses mocking gold rush in California and some of them are intergenic, fans are still listed in

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the sentence in both California and Virginia. Loading that hopefully that you had a whole list of them and they can't bullshit the heart from there.

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What was that story of the cannonball, Mr. Newton? Law, civil wars seeing no, it doesn't bode. That's the main job of the form our stack.

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Now will we still see the old financing that House Bill want to gain? What? 730 chef gangster themed 37 still.

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Fred that story of the cannonball in the list and ask, what was your version of that? But it is planar.

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It was done by the Spanish who are fighting the war with the Mexicans and finally, gun both and they run out of probation

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generally anchored off the list and farm. The main farm and Florida voters sure, on the RAM cyclists and farm and those lovely three colored girls

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are both wisdom. And then they went on down to the lower farm. Now I'm Robert variation and they wouldn't let

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me in people name Heartbleed there and they fired on the house and triple heart and the hip. And later on there was

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a message sent to Philadelphia of what to do about it, what gumbo that went on out the baby before they can get down here

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and two or three days later after that happened, four to get the message through doing anything about it.

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They were kind of pirates than liver, Spanish pirates, Spanish profit. There's ever any stories of that you ever heard about

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pirates down here at Cedar Swamp? Now, nobody ever said anything about a goal very down here, did it now? No, No, No, No.

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Well, I need here all the big banks of Blackbird Creek. Boy, what was that story would upon an old damn

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Medina found for declined somebody did a few years ago. That whole job was done that and applying them and ask them,

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I don't know, just add Year's Day Adventist. Here's you've heard about it. But what was F read from a circle? Rather than thinking about the portrait,

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if they were to circle on an island or Red Bank at about 50 feet. Croft. No graph through on and we, as Boys are often one

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is VOD know grayish through in this circle. So several years ago somebody dug a hole in the center of the circle and see, are they dug up,

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pop out of this hole, right incentives circle, right across one of those Trafford. Frank, then live birth

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at home and flames at the graph. Now with on a shirt normally you'd rather they now, I'm looking at two years ago,

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when I was a boy, am I eating grass that would ruin itself? Right around Sherwood would say half or flag it.

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But now on the, on the south end of the Cedar Swamp, there's a place down there that again on this oldie from

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Herman drawing is called the thoroughfare. Thoroughfare neck. Do you do notice any place by that name, Mr. Daniel new lower

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in what's known as smart and click tongue. Now it's one foot times in what's called dysarthria. Well, what was the thoroughfare was at

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a ditch, you know, Duck Creek and went down when euthanasia and my damnatio was the ditch a man-made ditch?

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Know, I guess you did not submit much. It'll means natural than any depth to that river bank. And they'd like to tidy them

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and made a cut to that thread to what what do you know about the thoroughfare? Terror firewood to correct

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her branch from an old Duck Creek which turns south about a half mile from the mouth for it now

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is and serve for Craig started. So what I did, I made the cut and run down near the river shore and turn south. And it was known as surfer Crick back in

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1660 to chill and Ephraim firm and made a purchase plan six change 62 and channel from the therfore Craig Dahl over by which is

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now the mouth of a river known. Is that any legend of Indians with that thoroughfare? Whale fall, I couldn't save.

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But do we understand they were a big camp. They are known as f phenomena, which are graphed on the Nile and below that, correct, now known as Smith Island.

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And they perhaps went through that way to get down on the beach that Mr. note amend in the marsh today or Cedar Swamp.

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Many mosquitoes back, they're not necessary instrument and speeds. You are now where the mosquitoes and the old am

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I less than J went to spraying? Why the drain easier to manage PDEs. Let's talk a little bit now about this maple swamp that which is on

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the edge of the Cedar Swamp, may perform. I used to be very sick bars and large maple trees and palm trees. And there were many Koons in

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there that time has three, it'll have a short tail, tail and therefore, much in our wood, children now known as a marsh cone.

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And the hollow trees have many cones and they were also brown and black. Make him they're about

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the same three or 41 look from dive in the hole, in the bottom, little tree roots and places. And I also, or

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money orders in there and the author has a way of breaking ice to come out or draw honoring by four inches right down from up,

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come down onto his head, his claim breakout either one and they go under this ice and come out around

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the old tree roots and break another home, wander. They live on fashion photo a lot of monies around the old trees

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and lamb they lived on a minute, perhaps in the wintertime. The sputum was add a thick swamp hard to get into.

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I mean, talking about the maypole swamp. Oh, boy, I already do. That's false. Do you ever see any orders? So in case you wonder,

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how would you how would you catch him? Was Chat Number 4 tract when you bake the draft. But now I'm going to put a new one

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with like get your foot in it. No, I can't just say, what do you do with them after you catch it? Follows kiloohm skin on some eyes.

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Can eat an audit. Oh no, no. You too tough to test. How about a muskrat II?

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Too much variation? How do you, how do you cook them for the best eaten? I don't know. Why does it took them I haven't done yet.

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We know how to start to open up a new thread. You have any idea how to cook Muskrat, the best way to cook and put them in an iron part with it.

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Salt, pork and regular still bound or may just fall right off or the bones and you've got shuffling. Good. A lot of people who my favorite joke,

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I'm Dr. Phair from unknown 1.5 because some of them are draft and you can only had a real good morning.

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Are there any that are there any beaver down here anywhere near this swamp? Now not close here as it'll

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be about a mile from the small, then you know how they haven't got data, what went with this data and see that the in-depth Li Shang taboos must caught him.

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Note MIC dear down here now, now of whether direct or when you were a boy? Oh no, no, no. D are about 10 or 15 years.

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What kind of small animals? Whereas down here when you were a boy where they're fox, the fox is shatters.

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Ask all small animals. I see down in the swamp and almost from your window here, a dead tree, I guess it's

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a cedar tree and there's a big messed up in the top of the tree. What's that patient off? A lot of them around.

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Yeah. Right. Good bunch of good much. Is there anything in the swamp that they can eat? Not only face she may feed on official to us.

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They tell me that the fish hoc always comes back to the same nest year after year view, I guess to deal with the shame. And ultimately back to

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your marriage must be the same. Also, there's a fish kill the tree or dizziness than a dead tree nest individually.

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All I wish any any any reason for that? Why does he pick out a dead tree? I don't know. Whenever you don't stand. Fred, do you have any idea why

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a fish off nests in a dead tree? I'm a fan, toners tree, dies and I have known trade or the hair of nested in

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green trees with those phrasal done a year or two after they started this thing in. Are there any eagles down here,

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metronome coming about them saying paralegal that they use up this chapter talking about and maybe change our the boy

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by another 50 a year now. And I don't know what to say. Miguel's come back and say Next. And we use today,

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they nested a dead tree too narrow, know they have a live tree. Let's shift to nest totally different times with traded blow it over.

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For the NES was that you have the impression that this the same paradigm that must be the giant mega combat,

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shame as Germany year. Then the last line of the same point. You want to see some big big Legos. Train is hard to get up with.

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You can get old like fees. Now. I know if I used to get the exile and merely Uni at the bottom,

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I have to get into the nest. They can climb over the top of its head equals macho man, for general observations, when you roundness,

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I'm going to exit as an eagle. A valid claim delayed too, and to a girl he had found one, she got four, and they sent him

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up north some place to place me got a prize on him. Okay. We give them low amounts. The Upshot. I never

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saw him and he said I was a second. They ever know the United States with the headphone and I never saw

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a good What's it look like a chicken egg? Is it that bigger figures the speckled egg, but it is also big. Gave you, you could eat a banana.

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I don't know what GitHub where they are. They bald eagles, least one ball and yellows are going to have the Shiga C to

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form algae farms around your attic faculty. My resolve in squareds on the front garden cafe had all from next to the river.

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And they will kill that. They feel all that land. And Jacob starch by his forum and he didn't

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know when you have a rim around. He didn't have the Blackman. I like the best forms, I'd say now I want to,

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I want to understand is each of the farmers use a or each farm had a track that ran out into the cedar swamps.

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So every farmer owned a part of it? Yeah, sure. I'd get Tim Brown before she saw mills. I don't know what they belong to.

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The farmers who was a private insurance, saw them on the phone. Whatever format is on track, lacked timber out,

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and then they sell off these tracks. These farmers, now they've gotten company come in and put this back up. Then you put a tax on this land. Bank tax.

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And the tax high why they condemn family one full width ten law. So the drug company take this marsh land on

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the Timberland for cheap badges. That's where the men who owns the cedar swamps now today. Taylor's width of the whole thing?

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Yes. All Swedish, what calls each one, but maybe David brothers. And in talking about the Cedar Swamp, there is another item of interest,

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a resort known as Collins beach. This beach, according to historical accounts, was started by a Mr. George Collins in 840 nine,

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who conceived the idea of making a public bathing place. And shortly after that, he built a hotel

00:27:39.390 - 00:27:48.600

and other buildings there to attract the tourist. This Collins beach resort apparently thrive for some years.

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And then it's come to a disastrous hurricane in September 1878 when almost everything I suppose was destroyed.

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I'm going to talk to Mr. Bell and Mr. Newton about the resort. This was before their time. So we're getting information

00:28:09.530 - 00:28:18.430

from them that has been handed down orally by the older older people. Have Fred, what, what can you tell me about this place?

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Coulombs, a beach land itself that 200 acres your theme via a grant of land to people of a name of war who came here from New York or

00:28:28.700 - 00:28:40.320

are they column family married in the ward family and later on it belongs to a George Cohen zucchini start the beach.

00:28:41.350 - 00:28:50.060

Did they run excursion boats or whatever? What were the boat? A boat and Philadelphia came there every day and Thomas Clyde

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was the lifeboat from there and she was built factionalism Hall, passion here in Philadelphia, the columns of speech in their food.

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Hurricane of 1878 to the interior later around the woodland. Well, who were the patrons as this resort where they Philadelphia

00:29:08.780 - 00:29:18.570

little Adafruit people together except the people from Smyrna and paper farmers drove in nearby Maryland, other counties there.

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Mr. noon, I'm in this hurricane or tidal wave that wiped out the resort. Was there anyone killed in it that they say, How hard one man being grounded.

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And what happened to the buildings or whether, whether or not some houses are some wood or something.

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Some the house way but it's just stood it and he sold them after the thing that's train dev around that the whoops, I'm sure.

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Many domains palm out. Are they standing today? Yes. Yeah. Who who who lives in a Wilson College lives in one and I don't

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know what the end the fellow's name is. Jane sharply are for you. We're going to show for it. And one, I were funny, you know,

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Oh, a richer, rich. When you were a boy, That's Pteranodon. When you went down the column speech, what was there then?

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Guild notes, but the tail at the end, it'll big hotel was used then. Now and what do I want to live in and do it? Just a fake unveiled as you just did

00:30:16.340 - 00:30:25.430

a lot of broken windows in it, I guess for now and I've that time that wasn't mentioned. The hotel LV and shrivel and I was a boy,

00:30:25.430 - 00:30:36.230

we shaded cross chromatids are about two mile from shore, overkill it. And we learn all show up on Sunday and number 44,

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rooms in the hotel or later on in that hotel was tore down by Mr. Mach. You bought it and owned water on Bache and unmute all lumbered,

00:30:46.220 - 00:31:04.550

bound to the beach. The road that goes in from Taylor's breaks down towards your less than farm went right on across

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the matter at that time and come out overcharge thinking availed light is on that they can veiled side of

00:31:11.530 - 00:31:21.970

the meadow and which continues right on through there. And sometime back I was on a planning Shift, I on a highway here and

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our 940 or rather and paper from Washington. Whereas in it's affecting my work and on the map they found variety. Mark no road at

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cross fader Shroff and a couple of them come off pair and I asked the question because I did have it all on

00:31:39.190 - 00:31:45.690

their own government MapOverlay. What compensation road and wide and you get it. But when I got up to the March,

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I guess they found there were no roads there. Do you remember the old road mislead you to remember albums they've gone. He was gone.

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And I remember pretty much whenever an entire wavelength the road there because oh, saying we slide. That must be a terrible thing.

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That Tidal way, I guess it was all these what I'd never had a tidal wave in your memory did not detach a bad storm, as you all know the ties that

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what was the worst storm data that you remember? Valley and about two years ago were storm tide.

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What happened there? Tell me about that. Well, it doesn't all just flooded everything around. A lot of water in the swamp, yeah.

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Six feet above high water. Well, what did the rest? Hey, fellows, come down rest. You would make six feet above

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water. Tie-dye or move around. You say we've been talking about Cedar Swamp and I asked ask you where it got its name.

00:32:42.650 - 00:32:47.060

I guess it must have got its name from the cedar trees, I guess a data and ever heard, but I must way But there were

00:32:47.060 - 00:32:53.210

other kind of trees in there because this early plaque that I read said that there was a maple trees, oak trees, white oak yet,

00:32:53.210 - 00:32:59.240

and I don't know what the fog swamp would call it a foot down and lower swamp. I don't think that anything I did just

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to draw a white sheet. Now, a gentleman this we were talking before about the if the water raise it in the marshes, is that right?

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If either of water rating on land, thinking, boy, Random, 50 years ago, it'll tell me that water would raise and about a year on

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our land and sense that I have made a study of it and I find that they're perfectly right. It all tied on land.

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There's this little peninsula and around which part of the country it's flowing. Saddling about an, here are the waters raping and HE or some

00:33:55.870 - 00:34:05.080

people claim that the ice is melting more North Pole or making the water raise a little here all the time. Rather believe our land shaking.

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But I've known many places where trees, it's drawing 45 foot on land out a marsh is completely gone, crazy, gone down. It is all march around them.

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And so according to that, our land grant for the second year of water of writing, which I don't know.

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But when you dig down here basket 10 to 12 feet, your ligand doesn't have the moth. You can see the old nervous going into it.

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So when you dig a well here, you've got to either go Brill, that moment are not big down to it. You don't scan the war.

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That seemed all cross. It's nice to see or sense a dead guy canal up there. This is a strip 600.

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Give you that not all a now I've heard that too. It's very different not to say that canals has

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a Delaware Chesapeake and now let's shift can ask changes. So we must be set not a flat surface. You heard this story

00:35:02.510 - 00:35:09.350

from the North Pole that yeah, I've heard I've offered that. What do you think about that lively show? I don't believe Lansing.

00:35:09.350 - 00:35:24.530

I believe the waters raise no. Gyrase. Back digging up at Marsha and root at 10 or 12 feet that happened. I drove, uh, well,

00:35:24.530 - 00:35:35.800

about two miles south of the shaders for for John cancel. And we drove 96 feet deep, Vulgate hard bottom, a shot of black fan,

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motor and weight found old Kirk and root and pieces stump 90 feet down the other four foot, we're just going to finish

00:35:44.990 - 00:35:55.690

volume patients to shade part of that, shade more fruit. Did you ever dig any Well, Mr. noted? Yeah.

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Well, how do you locate the water? Will just dig. That's Ohm's law. I located nobody down here with a willow branch that goes around

00:36:02.740 - 00:36:14.680

the shift downward on the cross that you just dig a hole and add our Devo. Have no travel strike of water. Water so far, which again, dig very deep.

00:36:14.680 - 00:36:23.070

You dig down he dead more games. Why is that water in the marshes that a brackish water yet I saw why.

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But it is definitely needed on this year. When I'm speaking about HLA, blue water proceeding a Varsha tidewater. But he's a blue one.

00:36:32.950 - 00:36:43.730

Bread. Back over in your Marsha or on the field away from your marsh. Is that old burial ground that

00:36:43.730 - 00:36:49.280

traditionally is supposed to have been that burial ground of Indians. And you were describing those stones to make LEA

00:36:49.280 - 00:36:58.430

describes and how they were originally set. They will shed in circles. The first circle, I would say around 50, 60 feet wide or too,

00:36:58.430 - 00:37:07.110

too sharp code, like some modern bird, clean the stone maybe for fixed-free the part and inside of that was to Mohr circle

00:37:07.110 - 00:37:16.550

and then name the good side of that about the cerebral circle. In the large circle. Circle, the spelling right around that is

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the tombstone headstone reset and the spherical shape. Then that was supposed to have been an Indian,

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Indian burial ground and claimed by the older data to be an engine bearing on the land of a John Richards.

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From here the nerve very or faith or unable to find any records that Newton, did you ever hear any stories of Indian burial grounds down this way?

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Now I never did. Never located just the gist those indeed rela yeah. About that.

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In this year. Like ground with this year at least don't grant. We have another informant

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here who has happened to stop in. This is Mrs. Mary David, and she's descended from the francis family. And they came down here at

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a at an early date. David, how about you tell me about your grandfather. My grandfather was raised offering

00:38:33.440 - 00:38:42.790

Lafley call Blackboard forest over on the other side of town. So that's where the profit and loss. I'm often told that he created

00:38:42.790 - 00:38:57.340

his share of the property for a horse saddle to go, girl. So he got is we've got the property then for horse bridle and

00:38:57.340 - 00:39:12.140

said he felt his share the property for that fourth fraud on file. Now, your father was John Francis, who worked in the Cedar Swamp

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lumbering. Is that right? Yes. And what do you remember about that when you can't remember much about that anymore than I remember.

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Saturday evening seeing the teams come in of the meals with it. You will see the lag and that's battle. I can remember that.

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And didn't they have a cap tail industry down here? Yes. They used to get the cap and I gathered them

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and then shipped to the Philadelphia and there were made they use the map to display the nerves days.

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Fred, as a boy. Did you work for Mr. Francis? Yes. I picked quite cheap, kept, jailed for three or four wonder schwa

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m. And for you to get a believer, send a pound for pick and pick them in a bag, burlap bag with a half form around that. And then we put them in

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large bags which he furnished for about eight or ten foot long and about three foot diameter. And a cat tail is a very light.

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Saw. My chair strip from the head to the cat KM, which float rapidly and water and keep on copying when you stay

00:40:25.540 - 00:40:35.840

Flickr bag and we wanted to get over it and give it a push to get on a bag, migrate across. That time, cat tails are very thick

00:40:35.840 - 00:40:43.010

all around the age of the shader schwa pair. That is, you could pick a 100 found in a very short time if you had to wear goggles spec and

00:40:43.010 - 00:40:53.720

we would get your eyes and when. And there were many capped tailed stainless country at that time a day we don't

00:40:53.720 - 00:41:04.160

have the very few hard enough for shade and the more salt water come in and destroyed the most cat. Did you ever get in on this cat?

00:41:04.160 - 00:41:10.460

Say awful, I think Nash, everything can't dance. You ever see them, All of them away that seamless fans on

00:41:10.460 - 00:41:17.960

when Lange was pretty, pretty good industry and those a study, could you make a living out of a second and sell and

00:41:17.960 - 00:41:26.810

cafe where there's little bunch, um, things get tail. Now this this cedar cedar logs that came out of the swamp,

00:41:26.810 - 00:41:35.460

was that foot what yeah. Ecf, what what made it good? Why was it in demand? When I was a useful number,

00:41:35.460 - 00:41:44.900

I didn't see anybody use for fall. Fred, you were telling me something about this cedar wood or a senior white sheet or what was

00:41:44.900 - 00:41:53.180

used Grady of that time for building boats have both yachts and large yachts and also the dollar are driven by fishing.

00:41:53.180 - 00:42:02.510

Skiff are quite numerous times shed fishing and inductors rather strong, it's that time and they also will use gradient on the farm,

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making real fences and real posts and posts and rail fences and for shingles on a roof. And it would read or expenses that time.

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Very much more minute. Mrs. David and Mr. Bell and Mr. Newton. We were looking at these maps here, spread out on the kitchen

00:42:25.940 - 00:42:34.970

table in front of us. And we're looking at a Geodetic Survey Map, which is a modern map showing the Cedar Swamp.

00:42:34.970 - 00:42:44.150

We're comparing it with the old E for a moment, a fee from Herman drawings that I mentioned and that we were discussing

00:42:44.150 - 00:42:54.590

the Morris list in place. And you made reference to a tree there. Tell me some more about that tree, Fred tree and then the last traded or very

00:42:54.590 - 00:43:02.220

large poplar tree that stood in the field in front of the house. Let me interrupt. Is not a poplar tree and unusual tree down here?

00:43:02.220 - 00:43:10.570

No, there weren't a lot of pop per share in the early days. The mouthfeel and logout build a theater were poplar tree.

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I see now where did this poplar stand? Somewhere in the fetal front of the house, on the left. Farm known as less than farm now are

00:43:19.460 - 00:43:27.080

less than point later or years earlier it was known as less than five would Shaw as this pop for traded or about

00:43:27.080 - 00:43:36.080

14 foot and I am a fair I never remembered seeing how wide it was. But generally older resid function measures the Poisson

00:43:36.080 - 00:43:43.100

known as CloudWatch, which is about Pawnee want to football and said to play allies, to go around with the free fat,

00:43:43.100 - 00:43:50.580

14 feet in diameter. Did you know anything about this poplar tree MS. Data now, I can't remember it at all.

00:43:50.580 - 00:44:02.120

Did you ever hear them talking about it? Yes. That seems as if that's part of the tree or HIV with tracing to flight, I feel apart and what,

00:44:02.120 - 00:44:10.490

what was the tree used for Fred tree were huge and really in place and lighthouses in the bay certain range two runs by.

00:44:10.490 - 00:44:17.930

And as I understand, the government bought a very small plot of ground around the tree and left a tree there.

00:44:17.930 - 00:44:27.480

And they're used to being large and perfectly visibility used to run Shift F9, refer for Mr. Newton.

00:44:27.480 - 00:44:36.120

You never saw the tree digit if Nassim, what do you know about the sign on? It wasn't like gigs with tree stealing. Well, they told me that,

00:44:36.120 - 00:44:44.340

you know where that spot is. Yeah. Was that as a boy when you were told the financing round and in 1908,

00:44:44.340 - 00:44:49.770

what what's happened to the tree was chopped down. I don't know. Never heard whatever become literally.

00:44:49.770 - 00:45:00.470

But it was my dad told me still. And that was always known as what did they communist and high the list and high was a real landmark

00:45:00.470 - 00:45:10.310

that then I have a couple of map phone of 860 history and another one of 1848 that shows lists and tree on

00:45:10.310 - 00:45:27.910

their maps and they've marked on the map as well. But you'd wanna talk every now we've been talking about

00:45:27.910 - 00:45:39.350

cat tails and the cedar logs. What else was raised down here, Mr. Newton? Well, each rate for each country in time, there's less than I agree.

00:45:39.350 - 00:45:51.450

Form. Needs to be on pizza. So they tell me. I don't remember. And they'd get the canal from the river into the fall. I saw I know about feet scrap.

00:45:51.450 - 00:46:01.340

Fred death, you know anything about the feet graph? Only one I've heard. Vendors just think of them in this locale thing that claim

00:46:01.340 - 00:46:11.720

that's on the list and farm they had about a 100 each pictures they're doing the peak season then shipped out of there about 2000 baskets.

00:46:11.720 - 00:46:21.290

They went to Philadelphia and for all wireless ship them from the right to evade sure they are where they come out.

00:46:21.290 - 00:46:32.570

Science of warfare yet. And they had very large trees. That's the guru on I've heard him say that the tops of trees and FADH,

00:46:32.570 - 00:46:44.450

two sides of a shorter barrel which is about 2.53 foot in diameter. And they also sent them by collagen barge later on and up near Red Bank

00:46:44.450 - 00:46:56.480

on Blackbird Creek fits if both could get in and out of better to Philadelphia and I shift about 2000 Vasquez de I don't

00:46:56.480 - 00:47:02.240

see too many peaches down here anymore, I guess, or summaries. But what happened to all these big peach craft

00:47:02.240 - 00:47:11.750

wild claim the first grade upset in the peach and Bas van I'm here was though raising was a blizzard of 888,

00:47:11.750 - 00:47:20.920

which tore up the trees, bad, bad, bad windstorm, coal freeze and broke a trace down and

00:47:20.920 - 00:47:28.640

the cold weather then same good, suit the phages to good and they start falling back then and then long. And about the 1890 say

00:47:28.640 - 00:47:36.140

you got to call a yellow ocher. And I'm ashamed to be at this stage in the ground state, couldn't overcome or get read

00:47:36.140 - 00:47:44.510

of about 900 day. It got a scale here known as the chandeliers, a scalar. Things seem to come here from California.

00:47:44.510 - 00:47:53.450

You're small, insect on a small scale along a peach tree, lambs and on the bar for also on the leaves and the fruits did find

00:47:53.450 - 00:48:04.160

a couple little insects are a little scared about size of a pin head. Then, from then on why we haven't had many pages sense of a 70.

00:48:04.160 - 00:48:10.400

But I believe this faith, if they had listened, farm would raise nice pitches again with the scale is

00:48:10.400 - 00:48:17.450

practically gone and I believe maybe the yellows, it died out. This generative. Do you have any peach trees

00:48:17.450 - 00:48:27.390

on your farm over there? What kind of fruit trees did you have? A phenol race, pretty good apples. And getting new GUI good.

00:48:27.390 - 00:48:34.860

Fill them all out. Any other fruit over there upside? Not only great grapes, grapes only when firing rate.

00:48:34.860 - 00:48:43.880

Blue and purple ones. Yeah, blue-gray. These used to be a great great place. All announcing you When I guess

00:48:43.880 - 00:48:59.630

Martin would know Gooding pull all of the new gen. Near the Cedar Swamp. There's a another stream called

00:48:59.630 - 00:49:07.840

Hangman branch neck up there called Hangman neck. That's recorded an old name goes way, way back.

00:49:07.840 - 00:49:18.200

And I'm going to ask Mrs. David if there's any stories connected with Hangman branch, your Hangman Creek five always heard that the mission I am

00:49:18.200 - 00:49:29.150

hanging there I can ignite. And ever after that there was a big dog came down the hill right off at midnight. But one night rather not coming home

00:49:29.150 - 00:49:37.500

and with the two eyes come down the hill. And my brother said to me, says, well here comes the dog. I said Yes, I believe it is.

00:49:37.500 - 00:49:52.880

But it turned out to be a big K. If I forget to tell me about the two kinds of fences there, Mr. Newton was going to tell us something

00:49:52.880 - 00:50:03.270

about the fences that they used to have down here. It'll swarm and don't seem to add these warnings tab called post rail fancy.

00:50:03.270 - 00:50:10.790

See them all over the country, but they're sitting in the bass. Now we have to use Bob worn and why don't post nato and

00:50:10.790 - 00:50:18.140

the last hand longus gracilis glass, that was called a post and rail fence, post array of x. Now, what was the other guy

00:50:18.140 - 00:50:24.830

cognitive them up with some color warm Vance that we'll do in a parallel ray of that made a crisscross

00:50:24.830 - 00:50:33.750

out of what's the difference between the if, the poster rail and the worm fence post rarely asserted, many Rails is warm. Thanks.

00:50:33.750 - 00:50:39.170

Use a nails to build those fences. No, no, no. You didn't eat a meal would be pretty good. Thanks.

00:50:39.170 - 00:50:46.160

Put up a both re-offense might look like in his name. Was this Cedar a good good wood for these fences?

00:50:46.160 - 00:50:57.200

Yes. A relaxed in the wall of this unit. It was the principal purpose of these two fences, the posted rail and the worm fence was

00:50:57.200 - 00:51:05.330

that to keep their livestock in? We only had Amazon was how high would you build a man? Well, I'd be about four foot by

00:51:05.330 - 00:51:23.660

four foot high enough so that the cow could knock one of the rails up. We also have a thorn changed man this country years ago,

00:51:23.660 - 00:51:32.580

quite a gnosis more and they work than they were known as o say jarring, I guess the ceiling you really come to know, say Jai away.

00:51:32.580 - 00:51:41.750

And they were put out there right now my share. And about 1860. And in the early days and he

00:51:41.750 - 00:51:51.430

had more how labor was quite high. We could get him tram in the summer time and labor Scott, hi, I'm scared for any fancy. Grew up.

00:51:51.430 - 00:52:00.290

Row 14 feet on further thorns and a punctured and many bicycle, early automobile tires are now at

00:52:00.290 - 00:52:09.330

various Or are there longer road where there's state highway gently push them out, clean them up because they hold snow and snow traps and row.

00:52:14.200 - 00:52:29.390

One of the traditions down in Blackbird 100 is that Edward teach, the pirate who was known as Black Beard, bury treasure somewhere along this coast.

00:52:29.390 - 00:52:40.280

We can't vouch for that historically, but that's one of the old folk tales. Fred bell has a song that their records something about

00:52:40.280 - 00:52:54.960

black beard and other items on Delaware that has never been written. And he accompanies himself on the guitar singing this song.

00:52:55.390 - 00:53:26.980

Something for the children. Being able man. A game here and about the blackbird. Read mapping game here.

00:53:26.980 - 00:53:51.660

Same old bought bread line. We'll get that a little bit.

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Back inland scattered around the olam data. They had a big party one night. That's a sweet and do the o got there and keep with me.

00:54:15.890 - 00:54:36.410

And they they are great. Inline span saying, Oh, you need to make that trip.

00:54:36.410 - 00:54:55.290

Give you very well may own learning about lower the list them while the barrel of the worst fill out a sale.

00:54:55.290 - 00:55:05.430

They, uh, but Dann noch gar nicht back then I'll do a place in the koala can then over there, the crayon a year ago.

00:55:05.620 - 00:55:19.110

They ran. They may have, but Dan data plane, the right word, eodie, neighbor. They did buy back for your film.

00:55:26.050 - 00:55:39.850

Well, the English, they got their daily and down the neck than layered. And I think that all of our Lewis bogged down that though,

00:55:39.850 - 00:55:55.730

never had as money that they owe me is a path. C you were, the CEO should navigate back here to Stanford.

00:55:55.730 - 00:56:10.160

Board battle. Here are the complete words to Mr. Bell's valid. Captain teach was a brave old man.

00:56:10.160 - 00:56:17.820

The seven seas he sailed. He came here in about the year it was 1682 when Blackbird Creek was a bird paradise.

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If the old Swedes map is true. Ie from Herman, he came here in about the same old time, bought all the land from

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old thoroughfare Creek up to the list in line. Well, the moon was shining bright that night. The wolves was hollering.

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Woo, woo, woo, woo. The amount cats sat up in the tree, their tails were hanging down. The old grizzly bear came out of

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the Cedar Swamp with our code of Brown, says all you animals seat around. The old man has got a big old blunder bus and he will sure MOU down.

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They had a big party one night. The Dutch, the Swedes, the Quakers too. They all got there in time. The Indian chief with some Indian-made,

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they walked right straight in line. And to his Spanish crew, he saying, Oh, you pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty senior Rita will make

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another trip and get another ship and give all the treasures to you. You pretty, pretty, pretty senior eat it.

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Well, they unloaded some barrels of treasure on the lower list and land. The barrels were so full, some spilled out upon the sand.

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They put it in an ox cart, tract it to a place they called the tint. It has been nearly 300 years ago. And from there, no one

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knows just where they went. They may have put it in a rocket plane and flew right to the moon. Don't worry all your neighbors,

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if they did, they may all fly back real soon. Well, the English they got after him and tried to sail him down. The next time they heard anything from him.

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He was right off of Lewis Town. He had 1000 battles and never had a scratch. But when he met this Virginian, it really met his match.

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They hung his head on the vows for it and see where they did sale and never gave for all black beard a chance for neither court trial or bail.

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One postscript to this recording seems in order. Mr. Noonan referred to an attack during the Civil War on the list than home,

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and Mr. Bell referred to this as an attack by a Spanish private tear during the war with Mexico. It is of interest to observe how

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a historical incident is transmitted in the lower of an area. Actually, there was an attack on the site of the list and home.

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This attack occurred in 747 when 19 Spanish private tears came ashore. They ransacked the homes of

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Edmund listen and James heart, and kidnapped several negro servants. In attacking the heart home. The private tiers fired

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a number of shots into the house, which wounded Mr. Hart's wife. The account of this attack may be found in the minutes of the Provincial

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Council of Pennsylvania, Volume 5.