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And now it's working. So we say something, so say, say anything to see that today,

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then there's the really good Oh my gosh. Did I get my work out there? Oh, yeah. Okay. So yeah. Look at that.

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This where we said was the story how you first realize that you were able to catch the bus the regular way that is good because it will

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come into your area of so for the eyes is if you would just start over as if they don't know anything. You don't say I am Shangtang

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but just straight. Okay. Okay. My mom is Mexican

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and my father is African-American. We grew up in a very rural, I wouldn't even call it rule where we grew up in

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the country in New Jersey, Want to seven acre farm up a hill. That was actually a dirt road then. And we're about a mile off the main road.

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So when we're younger, we went to school in New Jersey and the school Beth would not come the mile up the road to come to

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our driveway and pick us up like it did everyone else on the route. So my mom was just very aggressive, very outspoken.

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She went to the district and father petition and got however many signatures that they required her to get,

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and ultimately forced the best to come up the road because whether it was snow bad, whether it was dark,

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it was heavily wooded. There were dogs out there and it was just, you know, for myself and my two brothers

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and sisters who were young children, elementary school walking a mile to the main road to stand at the end of the road and catch the bus.

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And they were adamantly not going to come up and pick us up at the driveway like they did all the other children

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for no good reason, of course. But ultimately, that was my mom fought that fight, which was one of many fights and she won

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until that was one of her victory is until she got tired of fighting and ended up homeschooling her children. So yes, she's a fighter for you.

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Now, my three younger brothers and sisters were home-schooled, so we went to public school. Once. You actually had

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us come to your house to pick you up, did you feel any animosity from the bus driver or maybe students are with us? We were actually the benefit.

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It benefited not only us but other students who lived on that road. There were a few families who lived on the road that all

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had to walk down to the bus. So but we always felt animosity from the bus driver, from the principal of the school for

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the everyone who was involved on the district and school level. And we just felt that animosity because of who we were and

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that my mom was outspoken and she demanded to be treated justly and for her children to be treated justly.

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So, yes, we always felt that animosity in school. And on the mass. Growing up, you just seems like infill.

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Wow, the only feeling ugly attached and asking culture. Having that in your stance. Heel up to when I was young, growing up,

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in the air that I grew up, we fell. It was made obvious that we were really different. Myself. Again, my mother

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being Mexican and my father African American. We were never can whenever accepted by the way, kids in our neighborhood, in our school.

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I was never accepted by the bad kid that had different hair and I guess my different complexion and it was just evident that we

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were maybe because we were biracial, but we never had that feeling of acceptance. And I just fell. I learned what racism was very early.

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I learned what it was to be discriminated against and treated. Very badly, specifically by the white kids who

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were our neighbors all around and made up most of the population at our school. They used to leave feces in

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our mailbox and on our doorstep. And I remember one time I had a favorite little DA, white little curly hair.

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And they came and tortured her and threw her up in like the tallest tree. And I just had to like, I can never get her down.

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She just brought it up there. So those things like that that really made me know what it was to be discriminated

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against and also fill hatred myself because I feel like I hated those kids for always tormenting us about our hair.

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You know, my brothers, I had Afros and my sisters and I have different textures of hair now. And we,

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we even felt that resentment amongst the family, like my sister had darker skin than me and I felt like resentment from her,

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you know, her hair was different than mine. So there was a lot of internal struggles within ourselves, struggles within our families,

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amongst my siblings, specifically my sister, and then amongst the kids that we went to school with p now not being black, not being white.

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And there were no Next again, students eventually in elementary school, one Hispanic family did move to our school district

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and start attending our score. They were Puerto Rican and they were always accepted. But being Mexican,

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an African-American culture, it was just a different experience that I absolutely hate it inserted my brothers and

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sisters wasn't a good experience for us. And now, now your knees like embracing cultures, how is that shaped your adult life?

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The great thing about my childhood, and I do look at my experiences wonderful. My parents really made sure that we had a very enriching childhood

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who were exposed to a lot. We traveled a lot. We experienced on a regular basis people telling us,

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you know, well you have, you're so beautiful and we heard them. Tell them our parents, you have beautiful children.

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She has beautiful hair and my aunts and uncles used to call me curly top on my dad side. Now it was a different experience

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on my mom's side. Her my maternal grandmother told my mom that if you marry, that black men don't ever come

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back here to our home, which was California. That's where my mother and father met. And we always felt that like we were

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kind of outcasts in our own family on that side, especially with my grandmother, my aunts and uncles and cousins or agree.

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I have a lot of love for them. We're we're very close. But we always had we went to Philadelphia. We my mom had a restaurant business

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when I was growing up and she had a little taco stand and we would travel every single weekend. New York, New Jersey, philadelphia,

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and people there, it was a little bit different culture. We were attending events that were very culturally diverse and

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everyone was telling us how beautiful we were and we were always gave me a sense of self pride. And, you know, I always

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had a very strong self-esteem, high self-esteem. And I felt good about myself, and I felt good about my culture. I loved.

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We used to go to Mexico every year, once a year for the bus that as the Christmas celebration. The holiday celebrations.

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And it was I was passionate and intended on learning Spanish because I just felt like it was a beautiful language. Mexico is a beautiful place,

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It's a wonderful country. I loved it. I really embraced our culture. I loved working at my mom's Mexican restaurant

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and connecting with the clientele who were predominantly Mexican and Hispanic, they came there.

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So I love that. Again, if it wasn't for that culturally enriching aspect of our childhood, I know that I would not

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be the woman that I am today. Hello tetra camera. Bye. Like you aren't sure

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you're wearing your clothes. Everyone's we're all still family death Fischer Valley are impacted in very different ways.

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I can talk about that. Okay. So growing up, my mother came to the United States

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from Mexico when she was six years old. And my father as the defendant, a slave family in New Jersey. So my parents came from

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two different sides of the well to different countries. And then ultimately my family came together from

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two different sides of the country. From Santa Monica, California to New Jersey. I have seven brothers and sisters. So there's eight of us all together.

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Six of us grew up together in South Jersey. We all had the same experience, but who were impacted in very different ways. So I have a lot of appreciation and I learned

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a lot and feel very full life. I had a very rich and valuable experience from childhood to high school just to growing

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into womanhood and doing the things that I'm able to do today. I always was one of the children who fully embraced my cultural background

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and fall of my siblings. That was more challenging than it was for me. I was very proud of who I was. I never wanted to be like anyone else.

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And that was, you know, if someone hated me, I hated them you now and it was that was a challenge for me.

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It wasn't a good thing. I had to get over that. And thankfully, I've learned to have love

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and appreciation for people. And I've also learned to understand that no differences are to be celebrated. So diversity is something

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that I celebrate a lot. When my mom, when we were young, my mom used to come to school with a huge somebody et

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al and a poncho and some thoughts and chips. And my brothers and sisters used to absolutely hate it. And I loved it.

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I look forward to her coming and sharing the culture and talking to my class about whether it was show-and-tell or Cinco de Mayo or

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just her passion has always been cultural awareness, you know, and I think that she really was purposefully

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intending on allowing those children to understand the beauty of who we were as her children. So it was more than

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just show-and-tell to her. I realize that now she was really trying to share a lot about our culture.

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And you might have seemed weird and uncomfortable at the beginning, but once the kids tasted herself, like everybody was like yea pits us here.

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So that was a great experience. So when I was nine years old, my mom opened her first Mexican restaurant. And again, I I loved that

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because it allowed me to stay close to my Mexican culture. When I was a young teenager, we started

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the first Mexican folk work ballet in New Jersey. But we also had a strong influence just from the African culture.

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My dad always tried to bring the African in his African American to life in our lives growing up. So we went to all of the African festivals.

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We came to Delaware. The African festival on a brand new wine would go depends landing to Philadelphia,

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to the African festivals. And he would take us to Jamaica when we were young to expose us to that culture.

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We never got to travel to Africa, like we traveled to Mexico. But we just really had a strong group of friends.

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We would go to so many events and different museums. And if there was an African dance and drum, true,

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that was playing or some cultural or Amazon some cultural excursion. Whether it meant loading everyone up an event and taking

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a halfway around the country or all the way around the country with six children. I can't ever remember flying to California.

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So we would drive from New Jersey to California and New Jersey to Mexico and not to Tijuana, but down in Mexico to learn one a lot though,

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where my family was from. So we'll just take these vino excursions and just travel around the world.

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It felt like when I was younger and we really had a lot of exposure, I enjoyed becoming culturally diverse person that I am.

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I never had a wish that I was something that I'm not. So it was really good. My sister used to

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cry a lot because you don't choose to put powder on our faith to try to change the color of her skin and choose to his failure hair

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up and tease it and So it was difficult. It really affected her self-esteem. The fact that we were told

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that your hair is nappy, you're ugly and you're weird and you're different. And we got to high school in

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the same five minutes from the other little town we went to went to high school. All of a sudden we were like

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the pretty black girls, like the beautiful girls, you now so very different. But it affected me just as much that

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I was no playbook, that pretty black girl as when I was labeled the ugly other girl that no one knew who was it.

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And have a great impact. I always felt strong and knowing who I was culturally. So eventually as I grew up,

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people just started to embrace me and love me for who I am. And I began to really love and embrace individuals

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for who they were as well, having a greater appreciation, I think, for people's individual, individuality. So it's a great experience for me

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to talk about what you're doing now. Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. As I grew through high school was okay.

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But SKU overall with like something then I just felt like 13 years lived long enough. And I just wanted to explore the world and do great things.

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I went to Jamaica. I just wanted to travel the world when I left school. So I went to Jamaica, Mexico.

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After I graduated. I could never get away from my passion. And I've always had a passion for working with youth and families.

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And that's led me to what I do now for the past seven years, I've worked independently as a youth program development specialist.

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I'm very passionate about working to better the lives and the quality of life with youth and their families from the inner city,

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specifically, children from Hispanic communities and from the African-American communities, because there's such a large achievement gap

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with regard to education, most of my initiatives are centered around education. And r of them bring

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the diversity and the cultural awareness. And we host diversity trainings, host cultural events. I just founded an organization

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called the Village alliance. And it's about bringing be entities and the different arms of the community

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together are the resources together to make a greater impact in the lives of youth and families in the Hispanic and African-American communities.

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So I just know that there are a lot of people with a lot of resources and there are a lot of children that are in need of help,

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but we can address the problems that youth are facing are the challenges that they're having without addressing them

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holistically and approaching the needs of the entire family. So with English language learners in the Hispanic population,

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there are barriers that we had to overcome. And a lot of the mothers of these families may not be as outspoken. A lot of the fathers may not be a supportive.

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A lot of them may not be, not had that sense of pride about their cultural differences and are just trying to be accepted.

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And we're trying to just help families to, number one, address a language barrier that makes us that may prevent

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families from even communicating. So again, my passion just lies in helping to work to increase the quality of life for

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these families and individuals. And, you know, people still, even in my adult life and as I've got grown all through life,

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people do not know that I'm Mexican and African-American until, you know, or even Hispanic at all, until they hear me speaking Spanish.

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I could've known so on for 10 years and they'll forget that I'm Hispanic and then they'll hear me speaking Spanish.

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And it can be a bit of surprise, but it's so rewarding for me when Hispanic family walks into a room at a parent

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teacher organization meeting or an information session. And when I open my mouth and begin to communicate in a language

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where that parent understands. It's just like they melt into my words and they just their eyes and their smile really

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shows a lot of gratitude and appreciation that they can understand and communicate. Because the thing about a lot of

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Hispanic families, the very, very interested in their child's education in every aspect of their children. A lot of mothers and a lot of

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women want to get more involved in their child's education experience and just their experience as young people growing up.

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In a society that's foreign to them. But to be able to communicate and have someone they can appreciate them and understand

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them and listen to them, as well as speak their languages. It's priceless and I can see that in their face every time

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I open my mouth and speak to them and have a conversation. And I'm able to provide services in Spanish and in English.

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And it really makes me happy that I can have such a greater impact in not only the African-American community, but Hispanic community as well.

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And be the voice of my mother that maybe some, some families and some children don't have and

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fight for equal rights and justice for these families in areas where society may just take for granted that everyone there is

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an equal playing field. And really there's now you have to fight for everything with a lot of our children and families.

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Anything that FMD, that's a bit redundant, but is that anything that I'm leaving out? The chemotherapy are done in just from what we talked or down now.

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Not to backtrack too much, but I want to talk a bit about how you said that growing up, your dad had experiences with racism,

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that sort of frame the way looked at the world. So you could just maybe give it a few specific instances

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or maybe even how his relationship with the world influence your opinion on society. Okay.

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So there is a very striking man and his features very distinctive. His nose is high cheekbones. He has drawn law.

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So he has a very distinctive appearance. And that's always been the center of a lot of you say intimidation. And I think that it

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has experiences and his life, one that he's chair. He was the camera man, Ray and Wilmington, the first African-American

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camera man and journalist, photographer and journalist for news journal. Because it was during the time of the riots here.

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And know why importer would go out in the riots and they kind of that was, you know, free pass to emotion,

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lack of photographer and Jonah was get out there and you now the gunfight and takes a picture of it. And so he has a great story.

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He's a craftsman, he's an artist. The father of eight children, which says a lot. He's just you get

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exposed to a lot and very order. He retired long shore men and purchased a building for my mother to open a restaurant business

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and encouraged her so that that will flourish. And just my mother was always the backbone of the family,

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but he was definitely the foundations. So great experience. He's had, call it like just as a black man in this country,

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as he explains that the black man in America, and as seen that on many occasions, I feel like growing up my family was targeted a lot and it seems like it was

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a constant struggle for something. He is stopped by the police a lot and just say things that you may think or cliche if you just

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experienced those things and just has his buggy to accomplish every challenge that you then become in life has

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just seems like it's been a struggle. It's always working hard at something, trying to maintain at the same time. But again, we've always

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had a great appreciation for where, where if you didn't grow, grow AS to the hateful keyhole. And it wasn't a flight that

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he was always sharing with us. But it was decided that that Laszlo had to struggle, that we call C and

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just trying to raise a family. And a lot of that may have come from different things other than his cultural background all the time travel.

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You always been stopped and searched and his cultural background always comes a question. No, everything's, he's American because of

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his distinctive features of questions will contrary. Do you have a nice He's a man who was born and

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raised here for at least three generations of his family. So that every time you cross the Mexican border,

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traveled to Jamaica and another country, it's like yeah, like it fall to the side because they'll always visible here. So yes.

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There was something else that I wanted to just like even now, most commonly asked questions people always ask me what are you

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and they suddenly feel it makes the history of me when I'm in the grocery store or mouth is business, he owe everyone that's in there.

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And he used to me, it seems like an ignorant question asked so you can understand that. Yeah, that question.

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I wrote a poem about it. I don't have it. What does three or walk into a business office or in the grocery stores?

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What are you using is prefixed by something nice like you to really feel good. What are you really are? Yeah.

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So I just said so proudly now, CFO, cfo, 101st than a 100 percent knife, they get a 100 percent half and that's

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going to be really good. What else do you want to? I feel like everything that we need for our video.

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Is there anything you want? Just for general, like it's on, I mean, these collections are going to get, will be stored in the library and evil.

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I mean, I assume that if someone was doing like a thesis or dissertation work about after Latinas were about like a maybe like,

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like women heading like non-profit and stuff like that, they can pull this up. Is there anything that you would

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want in there? Yeah, I will just go for it. The most important thing about, I'll say being an Afro Latina

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is to remember that, that title. And if I could leave society with a being our children or families or individuals from

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any walk of life, no matter who you are, where you're from. Everyone is an individual person and there's so much to be explored.

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Their titles are boring. Titles are what they are, one word, two words. But it's very important to understand and get

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to know people for who they are and not to be. So as a society, everyone, we're all interdependent.

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There's no such thing as a human being me, independent of other human beings. We all need each other. We all need to be listened to and

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understood and guided and feel a sense of protection. Especially children who, if you're a teacher, you know, diversity training is critical.

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It's important to understand that children, that you're working with it, how to reach those children, how to ensure that those children

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have a sense of self, self-esteem. So PR is so pry, self-awareness. Understand who they are and that can only happen

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through the appreciation of someone else, the appreciation of others. For me, it was my mother and my father gave me that sense of

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appreciation for the land. The role of the teacher is critical. A mentor, a tutor, people in the community is critical

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that we don't look down on each other, that you look at each other with respect. And instead of asking who you are, as, you know, it's your passion.

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What do you love about like, what do you want to do as a child? In fact, you want to have and a secondary question where

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you want to do when you grow up, really finding out who people are on a very personal level, beyond just asking Who are you and what are

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you because we're all individuals, we're all people. And we all have great contributions to give to society

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regardless to what our backgrounds are in our culture. It can only make us grayer and make a stronger because it's just me.

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But we all bring different things to the team and downs and compliment each other and really give to each other.

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So it takes that at once. So I would just like. To believe that individuality is one of the most beautiful things

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about the human plays. That we're all individuals, win-wins, and interdependent, dependent on each other.

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As you can, I ask a question. Just I'm not going to ask me. Do I have another question, right? Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have and he is my absolute car.

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Someone asked me one time why how come you never talk about it? Does it He's not an import and, you know, my response was that,

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you know, I never hear you talk about your heart, but it's what sustains your life. I do talk about that a lot, but it was,

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it was funny that one of my neighbors happen to ask me that inspires me is the stains my life I wouldn't be where I

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am without me right now. Like if he is kind of an inch balanced to my fine, It's a lot of fun.

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It's big radius. To be a mother. I've enjoyed that. He's 11 years old. And he too is that the No,

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he isn't important throughout our generation. We don't allow our culture to be lost or lying down. So trying to make

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sure that he's continually exposed. I know that because I've made a decision to learn Spanish. I expose him to the language into the

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and at whatever pace he decides to embrace that. It's going to be there for him to embrace and he knows he is.

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Everything around us trying to keep our atmosphere. My home is is culturally inspired. Yes. Folks on Nochlin next and Marcus Garvey

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and Thurgood Marshall, great artists, writers, scientists, poets, doctors, lawyers. That can be a true inspiration to

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him that maybe are not featured in their areas of his education. But he's very intelligent young man. He also has great authors,

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artists, poets, scientists who are from the Hispanic culture. Free, is one of my favorite artists who went

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to the art exhibit recently, not only here in Delaware, good in Philadelphia. She teaches, so we love to do blah, blah.

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He is a lot of joy to my heart and my fabulous. Hopefully. You travel a lot.

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We live together. He's he's, he's having a great theory, which he does and LH and hopefully

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his ego. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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In versus celebrations like with the plants to grow up with clients. But I like this book because and I've had it for months, has recently.

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It has clinic a lot of the great female leaders and poets and artists and here and here. And it talks about

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individuals from work history, the importance of family. And then I have a lot of books that are in Spanish and grade reader,

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but it's elementary level and it's a great way to learn Spanish even for an adult. Unless that English was like that for

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growth of the mother. Like, I guess you could say, working for me over.