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Today is Wednesday, March the 14th, 2007. My name is Marsha Adams and I am here. I'm French town road interviewing Charlotte Corday as

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part of the iron heel museums Oral History Project. When it plays back and make sure Mrs. Kaur day,

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if you would be kind enough to give me your name, including your middle name and your date of birth.

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Charlotte Elizabeth Poor Day, birthday this 9, 24, 35. When in Wilmington, Delaware. Name is the cow making PRI ASCO.

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My father's name was Charles enterprise-scale. He was a carpenter and my mother was a list of the fan to Crisco.

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My father was a carpenter. We rented several years, then we own their homes. My mother was always a homemaker.

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I have six sisters and two brothers. My body started to see live in Delaware. We flipped in the new art Glasgow area, nearly all allies.

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My parents moved to New York from Wilmington 60 years ago. My present life with him for 46 years. Glasgow was a farming community and New York

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with a small college town like eDonkey church and 4 H, or activity centered around these and family gatherings.

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Many days we help their friends do firmware. Holidays were centered around home and visiting relatives. Sundays or visiting grandparents.

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Neighbors were usually friendly state of themselves, but ready to help in time of need. The neighbors were always

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nearby family oriented, regular factory workers, farmers, skilled laborers. Christened in the mfa.

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Despite, however, when we lived in Glasgow, we've tended to think, hey, the Presbyterian church, her hand was adjacent to the church cemetery.

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My siblings and I were the majority of Sunday school. In a rural area where we've had some service stations,

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a diner, popular restaurant, gift shops and semantic shots. My sister and I were bus girls at the glass kitchen restaurant.

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But only on Sundays when liquid license was approved, your liquor sales are made on some days. I'm homeless right on

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a busy highway intersection, a rural area to churches, the nearby Glasgow one-room school, no access to grocery stores,

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pharmacy, no best chance. Irritation. There was a skating rink. The only source of sport activity was mostly farmland.

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I worked come up for a dental office frowns high school. And after graduation, my sisters and I worked part-time at a five and 10 sets store

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in new or five miles away. My father was an air transportation. When we attend to present valid school, we lived on farms Hill.

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School, taught first grade to sixth grade. My classmates were word McNeil, Bobby McCormick, Charlene curve. We were out in the sixth grade class.

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There probably was the last one in five students, grades one through six. My hobbies for selling in gardening thing.

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The oldest of nine children, I had to help my mother, siblings. And how Robert, I did not mind living in the country,

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but it had its disadvantages. You could not belong to any after-school activities because there was no extra bus carbide.

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It living in a country where segregation was the only way of life, but it really had no effect on us. We got along with people of

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other races and nationalities. We had colored neighbors that were friends even today. I don't feel racism is a problem with

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most people, especially Christians. We are learning to accept that erases simplys. Life in the country or

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rural areas has always been a friendlier environment to grow up or to rear families than the hectic, stressful city like my father

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was the provider for trains education. My mother did not drive. He would take a cinch a town knew after women came to buy groceries or general shopping.

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New rack with fact miles away in Wilmington, 20 miles. Travelling speed when I was growing up was much less than today.

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So it would take longer to get wherever we were going. There were several right side Kurdistan scenario,

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but my father always kind of a large burden which my brothers and sisters and I maintained, as well as my dad

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raised chickens in addition, working two jobs to provide for his family. When I was growing up, we didn't have the radio later today.

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For news and entertainment. We could purchase newspapers. We also have a tough and with a party lines you shared.

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You would only here for different rings. One long, one long, and one short, two short to long range, you were assigned whichever one.

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It was hard to get use of the thing if someone else somewhere else was using it. Had to wait just as well. You could listen to others conversations.

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When I let go downhill, the yarn work hit, reset the end. And we lived in the last task before it, on a chicken farm.

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When we move to Glasgow, we rented on a dairy farm the enriched plan to draw their grain for feed.

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We use the half the honors grandchildren do their foreign works so we could play games, et cetera. There with other farms in the area,

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including some that race horses and one or two grazed how? I came to New York glass through areas 61 years ago.

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At that time, you work with a small college town, mainstream like in the mid-80s, was to raise, to go

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into town on Friday night was fun. You would see a lot of friends in Canada also, the local volunteer foreign companies

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would have annual carnivals, which we all look forward to. Us, gets closed for the most part, would be from kindergarten to 12th grade,

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except for one response which went to sixth grade. But these were the country when teacher only have these bows

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and she was teacher, nurse, disciplinarian, janitor, et cetera. Going to school when I was young was something to it two,

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although when we looked around, we had to walk two miles each way. Sometimes the teacher would pick a soft if she came by while we were walking.

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As years went by and we went to other schools, we read slow buses, which I always have 32 Each

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C and some standing. Like back then was so much better. You could be poor, but there was a lot of others.

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People were friendlier, more like family. Now with so many developments in the area and so many strangers, it's like the city came to the suffers.

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There's not much contract bidding and people are so stressed with work and family living pressures that the neighbouring is absolute life

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based on in the fast lane, It's too bad. We cannot stop versus Mrs. Coordinate.

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I'd like to ask you if you could describe to me what the schoolhouse looked like. Oh, this is a tree.

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You would walk. It's a stone building that was stuccoed outside. You walk in the main door. There was only one door to it.

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I'm here with a lopping a little vestibule on each side, had a shelf. What you would put your lunch boxes or your lunch bags on your coat,

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directly under that on a little hook. The classroom desks that were with seats to the deaths that were attached.

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So many on each side of the Nile. In the front part of the Church, excuse me, get this school was a platform like a stage. A teacher's desk was up there,

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and there were several little chairs. She would pull the sixth graders up and they would have their math class say

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when she was finished with that, should send you back to your seat, should call the next class off. She rotated presses like that.

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Each group and whoever, whatever subject she was teaching at the time. We have music classes,

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we had exercises in this school. We also had our race recesses afterwards, and so were the two outside purveys. We had to raise our hand

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to get to go out to the purvey. But that was basically how our school was run. She have brass oh Belle,

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but she would stand in front of the doorway to ring and caught children back in for class. It was fun. I could revisit again.

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Was there a playground, outside, was swings or did you make your own entertainment? There were no swings.

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There was just an outside play then it was on a corner yet. We had jumped rope. We play hopscotch on

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the driveway up to the front door. And basically kids just pay tax again, the room or whatever, come out with that kind of toy game.

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But we made our own rooms, you know, we made our entertainment. Get everybody walk to school or was their best at that time.

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Now, if everyone walked, as I said, my sisters and brothers and I leave walk from one to talk with iron hill

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to Pleasant Valley School. And our teacher at the time lifted you are printing was LC straddling cheek or no. Black Chevy.

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But if she came along when we were warping, she would pick us up. And the same when we got out of school, we had to welcome again and it was about

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two miles from where we went to school. Did you live on iron Hill Road or ion sign Grove and iron hill, right. You'd have done here yet

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alive at the top of the hill. The development stuff there now that I know it's a dead end road. At that time there was

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a gentleman and his brother. They were old or older German people. I believe. They wrote a tandem bicycle

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up and down that hill. And the son used to bring my mother cherry tomato juice. But there were so many outlets

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and my mother at that time, I know I'm going away from the school situation. But at that time,

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we did it in a very small house that was part of the chicken farm for the canon. And my mother on that list like that though or what stove

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except that my father put code in it and had to keep that going all the time even in the summertime in order to keep hot water and for cooking,

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it was a source of heat as well. Now, when did you move to the unshackled on your heel? We move to iron hill.

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Oh, my I was in sixth grade because I only attended Pleasant Valley School one year, my sixth grade. That time I was

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12 years old and sixth grade and I'm on my 72. So that would have been 60 years about ME and my father worked at that time.

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The new arc number comes from he was an oil delivery man. And then you went to sixth grade and

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the Pleasant Valley School them. Where did you go to school after that? Then? I went to new art at that time.

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It was junior high. There's no such thing as a junior high anymore. But at that time too,

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I had to walk with some other people that lived in the area. We want to make 96.

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96 synapse where the bus for seventh grade. When I transfer. Can you are more junior high. Okay.

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So you said the Pleasant Valley School was built of stone and then it was stuccoed over? Plastered over?

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Yes. Like like line whitewash and was painted the outside. But the building itself was stem had worldwide Windows.

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It'll send and how did they heat the school? We had an oil burner, just a small heater. And was there a piano in there?

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You said you use music classes? I thought there was, yes. But was discipline like for the teacher set up in front of this class?

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If you've got, if you did something wrong, you were promised by having the front face class, so that was the punishment enough.

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Now where you were there for the sixth grade, about how many children when they're in the school. But it was approximately,

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I would say 2025 at the most. Okay. And one other duties did the teacher had besides being

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a music teacher and then this the planaria and was there any health issues at all? She had to pay the nurse. She had to do everything.

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And that lady that actually did the hard janitorial work was a Aye. Mrs. Stewart.

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And at that time, her house was on the opposite corner there. And she due to heavy cleaning at our place. You said your teacher's name is

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Mrs. Straggly, L3 straddling. But she married or single? She was married and she lived on paper mill road and new art.

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She drove an old Chevrolet. Describe to me physically, what did she look like here? Remember when she was very heavy.

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Very heavy lady, round face and cheerful. About how old was she when you were there? Probably in her 40s at that time. She's deceased now,

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but when she was a teacher, I was so she's in her forties. So that was about You said you move to your 61 years ago.

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So that was like 1946 or something like that? Probably. And the war was just over at that time. Do you remember anything about the

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war in this area, what people were well, World War II, when World War Two was going on,

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we've got some woman. Okay? And at that time, I remember when the war was over. In fact, we've hit

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the east side of Wellington and I got to see my uncle on a convoy that last time before he went overseas.

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He was on the back of the convoy. Now remember the air raise assignments will go off. Everybody had to turn

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the lights off in their house. We sit on the front tooth and all the neighbors could be outside sitting

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until the sirens went on to say rape is it was, it was scary. When you lived in the heel area where

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most of the peoples and in here you said it was a rural area, So I'm assuming there were farmers around. Right.

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Did you buy vegetables or egg, sir? Well, actually, like I said, my father always had a garden in the arm area.

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Always several Finnish people, families that came from Finland and their, their occupation basically was chicken farmers.

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And we can use to buy from them. Actually, my father worked on is that chicken farm that we've done. But that was more like oh,

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he raised chickens to sell, not necessarily for egg production. Okay. So you rented a house from a chicken farmer?

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Correct. Okay. Getting back to discipline at the school, You said the teacher made

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them sit in front of the class. What was it that the children would do that they got that punishment for, you, remember, typical, you know, he with me,

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she hit me or whatever, that type of thing. I can't remember anyone doing anything back there or she knocked me down or, you know, maybe somebody took something

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from their lunch bag, but it was typical PIB is in trouble, you know, like normally kids would do anyway. That you have inside running water to

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drink or how did you get the water to drink? We did. We had we had well, for water. They didn't have a back room.

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And not many people have. At that time, we had no TV type of demand. What about telephones in here? And most people have phones,

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but first phone we had voice in Glasgow. And like I said, we have at a party line. One of the parties was

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a small restaurant that is 140 further tour there. You could hardly ever get to use it. So kids today would go

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crazy and may add a party to deal with? Yeah, absolutely. Do you know at the school house was used for anything other than schooling?

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Were there any social activities there? No. Yes. Just school. We have a grain or have a grain

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Chong Glasgow years ago. I don't even think it's an existence now. And we have 4 H club in Glasgow. And that was held at the pen Kate,

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a Presbyterian Church and we played in the cemetery. Now where wish your house in relation to the cemetery?

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And then the church right beside it, right. A place through 40 or 40, but right next to the fence to the graveyard. And when they stated Galois put

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the MUX 896 intersection in a tour our hands down now and it was there was Glasgow arms restaurant in the center of a magnitude 640.

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Sure. With diner plays on the other side in between the highways. That and then there was it a service station on

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each corner of the 96 that was adjacent to 4040. If someone misbehaved in school and was disciplined by the teacher,

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did that news ever get back home at all? Absolutely. Parents knew and they also they also had functions where

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the parents would come light, gives me plays or programs, you know, the parents would come and then they would bring cake or

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whatever and serve refreshments. It was really family-oriented. So the parents were really involved, right? Did you have much homework

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With imagine 34, I can't remember. Okay. So after school, like what time to school start?

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The nine hampered by eight because I can remember when it was bitter cold in the morning. Welcome to this.

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At that time of Baltimore Pike. From 8, 9, 6, 2 well, that was called a nine foot. That's all the wider was

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and would walk the shoulder, push. That wasn't the traffic that we have today, but who is still a long walk? Especially in cold weather.

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When you got to school, maybe you could just tell me what the day was like. I know you said you had music and so on.

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But when she rang that bell to come inside, what was the procedure? Good. Girls go first.

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Her boys go first. Yeah. Was there no difference going into school and hanging up the codes? Just everyone came in, you know,

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Isaac came to school and they always started with the reagents. And to my knowledge, I can't remember for sure if

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they said the words prayer or not, but I knew that the Pledge of Allegiance, because I can still see the flag up on that. Platform up on the stage per se,

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whatever were her desk. Should she have blackboards behind her dad? Correct. Okay. And then did the older children

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like you were in sixth grade and the older children help the younger ones at all with your school? Always. Always.

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And in fact, like because there were so many of us, if anybody had a problem where the parent the mother

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was in the hospital or something, we could bring our younger siblings to school with us. What about books? Did you had

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decent books to work out? Yeah. I think so. Time to I guess we had a PTA and I think that's provided with there.

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I think we were never sent home with orders that we need at this and that I think kids today. Wave was given our basic supplies at school.

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Okay. Did you ever get a visit from the superintendent? Thank You.

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Remember? Not to my knowledge. This is Dr. I was all we had that I knew about.

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Was there a dentist came in or a doctor to check your height and weight? No. Not that I know of. I think she did

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it herself as far as that goes. I can remember watching her now that we have head lice. She take fine to go through their head.

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Oh, she take the mat mat little vestibule to do it. Oh, my and this happened every year, probably most slugging it.

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Do you know what year they open that building as a school? Truthfully, I don't know exactly how that research back that far,

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but the date of the school is above the door. Now, even though it's been paying them many times, I wanted to buy at 15 because

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the sale the building was for sale and I wish that I could have bought it because I wanted to take the back.

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Yes. Because we have so many good memories. Kids. Did you have a Christmas plays and think, yeah,

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that's when the parents were invited and at that time to see the work that you've done, was that ever used as a voting place? To my knowledge.

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Okay. And you're graduating what year? 1953, some new art. Okay. And you mentioned you work for

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the last like five greater than. Right. So when you went in, in the morning, you said your pledge of allegiance,

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maybe a prayer. And then everybody get down to their lesson. And basically, we all have a sketch or you know,

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we knew which class will go first and then when when you were done way back to your guess, then you worked on the work

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that she gave me to do. The fact that that's why I'm thinking I don't remember homework because I quickly do that. So then in the afternoon after

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school when you went home, what would you do? Or could we add my father or two jobs? As I said, he always did no matter whether we live dinar and your Glasgow.

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But, you know, we I especially I had to help clean islands, did the cleaning for my mother and my sister next to me.

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She always carry the baby. But there was with so many there's always more Andrea, do you know and no automatic washing machine?

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Oh, no. In fact fact, I never had an automatic washer until well, my twins are 48 here phone.

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I didn't have an automatic washers. So I would say that 1964 file had a well and you couldn't run water in.

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Automatic washers took so much water. And when you have a well, you go easy. So you have a wringer washer. And when my children were little, my nephew,

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my niece rather said that I had a washing machine with gear shifts song. But they were the good old days. It's amazing in particular,

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when you were going to the Pleasant Valley school in the sixth grade, is there anything you didn't

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like about the area? No. Because basically then we didn't know any better.

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You know, we didn't have to compete with kids that had cell phones, TVs and stuff like that. You know, we we just didn't know about them.

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Think that, you know, what you say or do you know of any families that were in the area at that time that you would consider

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wealthy or where you all basically have the same economic means. One family of business and Lula for the last thing was Kirk

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and service station and I forget what US is so hard parts, I believe. And that was a new market for main's frame. But other than that,

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you know, everybody was pretty much the same. I think some parents, fathers might have worked if it's vulcanized fiber plate plate. And you are.

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And I can remember when Chrysler first came to New, what they've built tanks for the army. And I think some of

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the parents might've worked. There. May be some of the mothers were waitresses in small dinars.

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We had a dimer and Glasgow and he had a nice restaurant. But basically they were family-oriented Depot, you know,

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and everything evolved around back. My mother, she cooked so much for all of us kids, CMS. She didn't have time to do

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anything else, so no, no. I don't remember other mothers working truthfully that everybody around have large families face that

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who do you remember a plane crash. I'm focusing. We're back. What year was that?

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What would have been around 1960? I think. It was almost like it was on the land sea route,

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which runs from o more. I definitely remember that. I was sitting right where you are because me and

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my dining room and I saw through the window, I sold the plane. And the planes. It looked just like on television.

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You could see the flames shooting back and you could see all the little windows. And I set them on the chair.

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I said, Oh my God, there's people who have been killed in such bigger. And my father at that time had just

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gotten out of the hospital from a heart attack. And he worked in case of Canada here basically with an international authority.

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And they brought their firetrucks down to help assist every other company that went up there. And when my dad hot fire truck,

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that that film is of a child's body. He had another heart attack. But it was awful. It really was awful.

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Here's homeschooled my property. And we want the length of the gene or the slack bailing personally very much for a short period of time.

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Channels. Now they're like, okay, if I'm self-taught, soft Chapel Street and four, is that I think?

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Well, yeah. Chestnut Hill Road and Dr. Walker's office was there after we left. The kids.

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And slacks had an old house and farm and a very fine Mrs. Slacks, father was a blacksmith. And he did that in the barn and

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slacks with Norman and Sarah Slack or they had a son, John, who was very close to my brother. And I used to do snacks,

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breakfast, dishes for Boeing, and get on the school bus at her house. They they were very prominent family, very well respected, well-to-do family.

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John wisdom in the child. And when he kinda like adopted my brother, Johnny went to get a haircut. Sonny went also.

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But they were there for a long time? Yes. With some nice It was a White House, had a big front porch on it. Beautiful and teats.

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Johnny has nationwide insurance business. Getting back to play time activities. When you were living on iron heel, when you said when you went home from school,

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you've had chores to do. Did you ever have any time to play, you know. Do you remember? Yeah.

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We you know, which kids don't do anymore now, but they played hide and seek and we play hopscotch and tag that type of thing. It's just put things

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together because there was no television, you know, and the major Fine. Fine. Jacks.

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Yeah. Did you have a chance to play with other children and neighborhood? You don't top of our you know,

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we didn't have any neighbors with children. And what brought you to live on top of iron him? Well, that worked for

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diamond dice and coal in Wilmington. He was as I said, he delivered oil truck driver. And why we moved to New,

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aren't I honestly don't remember. But maybe he knew they had a chicken farm. I remember the last thing is reallly and I don't know how my father.

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I really, I was young and I don't remember how come we fear. That's okay. Did you have a vehicle currently?

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Have when your model T4 alone? He added my bag is to raise chickens, like I said. And he was killed them on

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Saturday morning and my mother would dress. I will never. And that would put them on ice, put them in the back of a truck.

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And I'm talking about got closed and allow the food truck. The back of it had gates and thus kids with pile in there.

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We that's how we had to go and go into where I make them. And that it would sell fresh chicken and people would make fun

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of us gets impacted. The truth of that was mortified. Want me to tell you that? What was Christmas like?

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Christmas was always fun for us because we didn't get birthday presents. We didn't get things year. In fact, when my children were little,

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same thing for Christmas and my dad worked two jobs and belong to the army guard and many nearby. He did everything he could to

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supply stuff for his family. And Christmas was always special. Always we always had good Christmases when we were kids.

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And family time. Yeah. One time you mentioned the family by their last name of laws

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and you said the on-demand Glasgow much somehow related to the coach family. How did that go? There?

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There was a lot and there still are several laws families in Glasgow learned a lot from farm. And to be truthful with you,

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my sister was the one that allows us to the pitches and I'm not sure that thing. I know we went to school

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with the last turbine. Enormous, enormous Skyler way. So laws, there was laws in the bare area as well.

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The thing that they're too similar to. A lot more here in Glasgow. The same with the Brooks Family. I think.

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Elizabeth books, this was the teacher class. And her son still lives in Glasgow. Us. Faster mature, right?

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Yeah. And he still lives there. What does his first name now? Melvin Melvin Brooks.

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You said you were raised Methodist, but you actually can cater Sunday school Presbyterians and he thought was right next door.

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Children's Day, Elizabeth, the first coat kids. No matter where we weren't that many of us we were

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the majority for age as well. And who ran the 4 H club? And this is Matt fully and ship it right there inside the Presbyterian church.

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She was a school teach Sunday school teacher as well. Menu Palmer was assigned as Mrs. Mac before family from there.

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Now I tried Donald magically span number, but it must have listed. I could tell you more about that. The classical area as well.

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Tell me about walking to school from untap of iron hell when you want to the Pleasant Valley School, did you meet children going to

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the iron Hill School at all in your travels back and forth? I just basically a lot of the kids that went

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to high school closer to there. There were several that was right near peasant ballet school for that matter. And here are, like you say,

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here's the college because they've had to pass the weights to get the content fam I for one there or arouse a lot of URL,

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stairways, lineages and trauma thing. The blanks, glances and the genes. It was a large family tomorrow, Charleston craze Jeong had sent

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them and they love Pleasant Valley. Right down from school. And now that I'm thinking about it, I don't remember where

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the Finnish kids I never thought about that. But there was several finished. And if you could track Maya's this stuff. I don't know her married name,

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but she knew well, subtract bird. I think my my B12, Pleasant Valley School as well. Now, Z IS TO

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this couple is this TTL families? There's Halo fan and a third month, yeah. Did you ever have an opportunity to interact socially with

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the colored children in here? Yeah. You did good. Bot where we were alone. I mean, there was no defects the

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same way where I'm living right now. We have standard units is largely and C family they had civil dan I'm French Camera.

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Raw funds for my children were little. I had five children and five years and I didn't even have a fence around my God, they knew not to go out

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and I always had other kids. Few weeks ago, my daughter and I went to I answer for you. I am one of

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the boys introduced me to the faster. I said. This is mys thought it puts it in front of me is my maiden name because that's all they knew.

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Di is we've always found a job. I always, and when I bought half syphilis, they all have that popsicles. Color was not a big factor.

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That people in this area, there is no trouble. No one, no one gave anyone travel. A colored man with passiveness,

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hence, able to inspect the things that white people, you know, these aren't the same. Now when you went to New York High School,

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had desegregation started then with that actually going out nicely. I would say yeah. Because even when I was a senior,

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I had no college kids in my class. And that is 53. Yeah. Why would you

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set the Pleasant Valley School was made of stone. Was that all natural stone, I would assume from the area?

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Correct. And then they plastered over it or something. I think it was pastor and then a whitewash that because

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really I don't think it was actually painted back then we used a lot of whitewash line and a mixture wind and water.

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I use pink, the foundation of my house with it myself. Whose family histories whitewash and keep the bugs away.

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And when you went to the Pleasant Valley School them was it that whitewash, the vector with itself, the stone Wi-Fi?

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It was whitewashed. It always was when I was there and then the inside of it, what were the walls like?

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You were plaster. Okay. Yes, it was a smooth plaster. I can do. I can remember that. Same way with the windows.

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The windows Salzburg worldwide. To accommodate for the stone again. And you said you did exercises in school with that once a week or

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every day or do you remember? Probably every day. Keep the kids getting Ramy sitting on. It was some time

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by the time the teacher would take certain class up or was actually a platform, but it is called the stage, I think. Well then the kids were doing

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their other work while they were waiting for them to be called. So remember that touched your toe type of exercise that time.

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Was there a flagpole out front or trees around and there was a flag. Do you remember the flagpole? And I think with this job I did that.

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I think she's going to put it out and took it down unless maybe she has signed the kids to take it down. I don't remember.

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Kind of pictures around the walls and energy. Remember? I don't remember pictures being on the wall is

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equal y with two windows on each side inside the school. And then the doorway to the vestibule where

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the coats and lunches were, and then the outside door. Did you eat your lunch? Is that your desk? Yes. And then after lunch,

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we'll have an opportunity to go outside and play recess time. Men should come out with her bell. Go about.

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This is the end of side one of tape one. This is tape one, side two. And Mrs. create, Could you just explain to me about old 1896,

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the people that live on that road. If you're coming south on 896 and you veer off to the right two down old 896.

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You mentioned a Jenna's McGill we Donald McIlroy down download Mac only. I'm sorry. Where does he live? Funny, old AND sec when

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you come off of 89 is six per se. But they're to the right parallel with the 1896 that we use present value. It's now called Glasgow Avenue,

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but originally it was the old 1896. The only row when you get off on chip Glasgow avenue to your right is a one-room schoolhouse.

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It was it's now used by enduro motorcycle group. It was the Glasgow one-room schoolhouse teacher

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at that time was Elizabeth Brooks. Sheath. That building is to the right, the first building you come to. And then there is a church,

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Baptist Church on you. By the next, you build things are a little family. The first family is Jon jordan.

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A second pass is Harvey octet. And then you come to a large brick. It's old, It's impose this darker. And that's the bit and gives me

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Audrey and Melvin Brooks slip there. Actually his mother was teacher at cleft guess one-room school. On the opposite side of Glasgow avenue.

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You have an old house and a barrage. Then there is too small ranch houses. Donald Mac only lives in the first ranch house to your left?

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His son is the one that lives in the first house. Then you would come to a big dance. It was the Presbyterian dance at one time.

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Another large brick building. Next to the mass. There used to be for us go Methodist Church, which was purchased and torn down.

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The next building is a building that is 5, press the pen cater Presbyterian Church and choose for church functions.

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Then you have the class because cemetery, the Presbyterian cemetery at the intersection here is that though between the 241 going east,

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one going west, used to be a prominent restaurant called Glasgow arms. On the east side of that was the Sherwood Dinah.

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There were service stations on each corner of 40. A text suppose station facing the Earth. And on the opposite side was going east,

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is used to be and the Atlantic service station and a little restaurant opposite it on the east side of

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4896 was an old antique shop. The Grange WHO was held his side. The large brick building before you take the intersection on

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the southbound ln of a holding six, which would be Glasgow Avenue. The glass the Grange Hall was held there. And your house, which is no longer standing,

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was where it faced with 48 fact it was only a few feet right off the highway and it was basing the highway on the southbound blame,

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the westbound actually side of Route 40 and that was almost attached to the cemetery. It was like six feet

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away from the fence to the cemetery. We played hide and seek in that cemetery with, with them and nuance slit

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in knowing but the toughness of things besides. So now that you've told me what life was like,

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do you think it was a good life back then? Are you happy where you're at now with your life? Would you change anything?

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My childhood as until I got married, I got married the day after I turned 18 to get away from a strict hover. But even though my father was strict,

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I realize now that he met well, we wanted us to turn out good and which we did. Thank God. I don't regret

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my childhood and I don't regret having my five children In five years. I wish they were small now. Now that I am a senior, I'll be 72.

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I I feel I I'm at a place in my life where I'm at peace and I'm happy for my family. My I'm very close to my sisters

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and my children and I cannot spell anymore. I'm just grateful. Great. Thank you for sharing everything

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with us. You were wonderful. You're welcome. This concludes the interview and keep one side too.