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This is Roberta Perkins. Today's date is Tuesday, September 14th, 2004. And I'm here interviewing Mrs. LC.

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Bullock, former student of the iron Hill School. And we're at the IMP on Natural History Museum here

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in New York, Delaware. Men are viewing this is Broca as part of the art hill restoration project. At this time. I would like to thank her for

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taking the time to share her memories that attending a school. Thank you. Mrs. Book, I'm going to ask you few questions

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about if you could just give me your name and your date and place of birth, the width to go up. And are they afford to pick

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you up or look like you're an idea? And where were you when when will you what do you think filter? Much 1699. Okay.

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Okay. Can you tell me what your parents were? Jewish era. What are some other fluid thermal Emma.

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Emma. Okay. And George and to its URL. Okay.

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What was your mother's me? Webster. Do you have any brothers and sisters? Him and a lot of those.

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Okay. You want it you gotta give me their days. I both brothers. My friend, Gertrude, child.

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Same. Betty, 30, Brandon. No. I got it. That sounds about right.

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I did. Did you always lived in are now vulnerable. Okay. So you you were born here for eraser.

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Okay. Or your parents farm here? Okay. Okay.

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Yeah. I'd rather know motherboard and marsupial ultimately. My father, Moreau.

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Do you know what brought them? I haven't. But what about growing up and I don't want you remember activities,

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community members, community, we didn't do much. I don't think ever that like parents or grandparents ever involved in

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any community today. But I mean, it has hit we've had grown up. He did things. I think during the fabric I

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would think bearings we did. The other thing, I'll run it. There wasn't anything to do. Did you fish yourself?

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Do you remember when you first learn how to think about that? What was that like? If you go up here to Fred's living things now

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you get your first space. That's great. You need to come up to the character first because Vegas this yes.

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Do you remember who taught you? Okay. My brother. Okay. For you, those are the parts

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that there were moments when I did that myself because I'm not afraid of arms and legs and I've pretty much that myself.

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But rather without the predator was an upgrade from what you mentioned. One other thing, I'll put berries and we'll kind of

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move up upon where they pretty abundant. Where where did he go? And side road and it gets built up. Okay.

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Yeah. I went out direct from the direction of this for wears on Sibelius. I think that length of time

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waiting for the second time. Okay. Thanks to get big here we go up there. Let it come down

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that you didn't invite ever get hurt and you didn't have to worry about traffic probably already graphed. Road.

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Let's say What about your family, where they live, where you live with your family? On the property.

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And the house where you live? Yeah, My grandfather. Okay. That looks good right now. Okay.

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So your grandfather home to your grandfather was here before your parents and you give it nice and big house, Sag road.

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I think they read it back. In. My grandfather got a crappy phone. My husband, father, and he built the house. My mother had.

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Say, you're going here. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to skip a little fat because why did you why did you attend our school? What grade?

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Thursday. Okay. So I started in the first group. Okay.

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Your plan okay. Before a fine. Okay. You went to sixth grade?

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Yeah. Okay. What about this is like activity state, your family members or other family members. What are some things that people

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did for either leisure? Holiday celebrations? Where they didn't get several digest families.

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In your case, just families do your family do them by themselves? You looked at the family, got together? Yeah. Okay.

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What's your what's your one gathering place that you can easily add? My grandmother datagrams, fat. And she did see it on travel.

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What did you do? What were some of the celebrations, I guess that that that that yet well, that will move,

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you know, that comment we did February 5th, soviet Thanksgiving. Like we would have family day. What time of day that

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the activity can be their common thing copied in fact. But another thing you can do, throwing the bean bag and that sort of thing.

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Can you tell me a little bit more about family day now? Is that something that's done through the churches?

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That's something that several families has gotten together. Okay. Okay. Okay. I pass out.

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I do at this point is mentioned that also here with us is Laura Lee, Director of iron hill. You seen it?

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Happy birthday. Happy birthday is handled. Just a little thing. Paper like him.

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They weren't granted. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Did did your family or

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did you do you remember August quarterly? Whose abnormal Huntington. The woman can think that my grandfather made it her up.

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He attended kind of thing. Okay. Thump. Absolute take me though is around with an e

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at the end EAR L. Okay. So my takeaway from that evidence to them to deal with them or how do you remember that?

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Oh my goodness. So much. So many people that I love and marriage the activity part of it, think of that, but we

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were never involved in anything. Isn't it? Go and play with the kids, have that type of identity.

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Do you remember how to eight. Okay. For steady go. And how important this is a good feed into this.

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How important church to you. You're going to be candid Terrence? I think when I came out of the church and I would mainly because

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handled with this agreement with the minute that you can agree on some things that I made up until that point. Characters like 32. Let me warn you.

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Now, when you said. Came out of the church and you do the disagreement with the minister. Was that an individual choice of

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yours or did your family other family members that are going to update them with lines one, startup curiosity amphibians. And you don't have to answer this if you

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don't know what you witnessed. That business. So do you think religion in church influenced your life?

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And I guess for you it's kind of like a two time period that you would be addressing. You know,

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I go not that particular church influenced my life. Once I come out of that, I didn't go back to any other church.

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The time in Tokyo. Hovering then we're looking at very okay. I guess I will provide to you out of the church to what's happening.

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During that time. Did you do anything for yourself To continue or sustain your spiritual development?

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Okay. What did your family and civil servants up here and yeah, yeah. That's mostly because they didn't think.

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What about jobs? Do you remember what jobs? A lot of the adults had? Its area. Do you remember? But a lot of women it poorly.

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Railroad. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. What could they do?

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Know my father, my grandfather went. But they were Tamil Nadu admin work, but that will pay for Leo and pick them know. Yeah. Major credit, yeah.

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Because that word local. Donald, that category tough, Robert Green. Now inside of this semiconductor, I thought our granite as you said it here.

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But you can tell that they come up, you know, what they did with the railroad.

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Just kind of fun to do. And I don't know what the game but I mean, I know my grandfather there with wreck or something like that.

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Like get up and a little language that they get up in the middle of the night and go out with heavy. I do. Ever like Brooklyn, attract them.

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Okay. What about you? Do you know what your first job was? To help help a Lady Bird for polio?

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When I used to go with Erica per. Given the active by the end you come to that. How old were you? Tell me about that?

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Because she couldn't tell me. How can I help. Okay. So is that something that you did on a regular basis or

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she just for Cloud you periodically. And she paid you for that? Because she felt like she wasn't that much. Was it somebody here in a funny thing,

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to remember the family name? My new company. How did they know your family? Is that having asked to contemporary came

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up that were that when your interactions with the white community in this area,

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as you'll recall enough or race relations lines. What do you remember? Right. We had the pamphlet I leather goods.

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That would not only the good. Okay. Because thumb water, another butterfly. They would be like

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the point where they thought on it. Yeah. Definitely. I want to thank them later. I do that then got better.

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There are some of the like sodium that live down five o'clock. We've always films with them. And the Nashville that liver it up.

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This is really fun company. Other one coming through from down in archive, came from the center.

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So down this and there weren't worried and correct me if I'm wrong, there were not as many of the black students. The black mostly all

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lived in the other direction. And that scaffold. And so for the most part, that, that immediate community

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that you live around, everybody seem to get along with the most fun. Happens.

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Sometimes to fight start. We said you said sometimes it does. I don't know whether it was the wife of the Black Boy Dartmouth.

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It would be the boy. So it was it was it was the type of thing that it was just this ongoing contention?

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Yes. And for the parents to get involved with time, how long did you stay?

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At how long people stay in an iron heel area and reasonable. I'm asking that is as you got older. Do you remember?

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So what is the question? I want any experiences with discrimination as he that'll either any iron in

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our community or if you onetime new arc for shopping or anything like that? Yeah.

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Okay. I thought that that as we got older, I mean, you know, that everything that better, better.

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I mean, what's the stimulus? So for the most part, with your experiences at the segregation at the time,

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didn't adversely affect you. Other than you ever. Did people in the community here have fears wherein you remember

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had their own businesses, some sort. It could be any, take any food. I don't know if everybody. What about politics? What do you remember?

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When folks are within the register to vote or they would prepare to vote? Do you remember any pico any activities a incidences around voting, campaigning?

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A little sparse coding. I know that they would come around, pick up people that didn't have to. Now who are the people that would be

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giving would be coming around, you know, who was coming around and picking folks up front to take them to the polls. Like a grandfatherly figure.

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Generally, people in the neighborhood that had a car that they would buy them. But a lot of older women. Look, I don't know. Do you remember anybody ever tried

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it her to get people to vote? Yes, they did. That. They were muddy.

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If they haven't been paying people, what did they pay? What they used to pay people money. But do you remember how much it was?

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Like seven miles away. Okay. So this was your grandmother was telling me this and

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your mother like money began it is Frontline. Now, did you yourself or anybody in your family go into the military? Got a brother did with my oldest brother.

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Okay. They didn't keep them. They felt really bad because he didn't want to be there.

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For one thing, though, you just didn't do it. You've seen changes in iron hill when you were a child, you know,

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for now, what are some of the things that you remember that good, that aren't who now

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because of all the changes. Well, the fact that she didn't have to really love to tour is what grandparents never loved it.

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How did it they would play out side too dark for me to worry about it. We'll look at some of the things. We like it. We were lucky.

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They buy yourself. Time for my people would stop and try to give you, or I wonder what the mode is,

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where that will likely need to take off running. You never knew what the mode is going? Yeah, they weren't from the community.

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What are some things that are you seeing change and you're glad that they changed. The fact that everybody

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in the neighborhood kids love everybody, benefits eight. So so it sounds like your time, your life growing up and I was pretty cool.

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Happy. Sounds like if that today. Okay. Let me did you have any of you

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along those lines of questions if you have any comments that you might want to Nathan, I haven't asked people we can

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jump into the school day. He got his car with the school day. What when when was the school here? That's a point with a minus one.

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Did school started? Who's definitely okay. Okay. And then it went on to

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the metal part time or time or to have PT school. And the end of the day was 30. Okay.

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Okay. How did you how did well, let me ask this first. How did you get to school for you?

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Well, okay. Yeah, It wasn't that far. You still live in agenda, same general area where you are now.

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And what was your day like once you got to school? Kind of walk us through it a little bit with what you remember.

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What was it like once you lap, How are you? Yeah. Pretty much like any school. I mean, we had to come in that are

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the good things of paper. But mostly you Featherstone color back there. Okay. And once we got that,

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you'd like maybe expected to be affected? I'm like okay, let me let me kind of ask a question here. How did that come

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about when you say fix breakfast and by that I mean who fixed it? And who supplied through what did you fix? It would either be a teaching

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method for those who didn't. How does that decided to do that? The teacher would mostly bringing some of that.

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And what we had here because that last time it makes the scientists, this is again that URL that points to the poets ever helped.

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Was it sort of black economic home economics project for the girls, for me, did you learn some of the girls love? Yeah. This one.

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Time they've learned how to cook, or did they just get extra? I think the girls at home, particularly older girls, fifth, sixth grade.

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Typically, I did it. I mean, I think we're good. So it would be it could be any grade of the girls. Yeah.

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She's kind of pitch today. How is it determined who who did cooking that particular day? Because they read it,

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the cook them on their feet. Now we get to the crux of everybody here. Do you remember when you bank branch, like layering and classroom you would

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actually kind of potatoes. We did that here. So with with with your with your back to the school,

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to the to the entrances to the right side of the parts of them. They send back the amendment. What else there last thing together.

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A little table, a little. Hey, I thought, okay. So the start because too much because I don't want Honda

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was a Python code. That works though. The boys would advise to Varner Hall burner. Because I don't think so. Okay.

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That's a skill on itself. Cooking on a wood-burning stove. I love it. I know I try. It wants yes. It says yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. It's kind of a it's an art. I know that I wanted to ask something else, rely on map and I'll come back to it.

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After you would eat lunch and that kind of thing. What would we say, slight fellow to play football.

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But it has to be a yellow over here. Think about what the k there, Kyle's paint with staffer and change the sign.

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This is the end of our tape on sidewalks. This is Roberta tape, one side too. And I was asking is it FOLDOC about recreation,

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recess after lunch and she was beginning to tell us about one of the activities came out of that period of young girls

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play with that back with that one of the favorite ones? Yeah, that was one of the favorite ones. Where that went around that

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like I said, basketball, football, rounded credit when you read here. Yeah. You remember when you had that 500?

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Again, a spring sat there and restful. Sappho's seesaw container kind. Fo fo fo. Merry-go-round guys try that.

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Yeah. He jumped on it. Yeah. That was cool. I think mischief. Then somebody colonists, they totally get

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jhanas dry eye and a catalog of playground equipment idioms, common giants try to remember anybody getting hurt man or any backward.

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Or they picked by the world of the past and let this go. When it was time to mg says to the teacher when the bell rang a bell.

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Okay. And how did how did the students like to come in where boy, boy, boy like or align levels? Well below.

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What was the program? I I think I started dancing is up to you, but that was a program like the rest of the day.

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As far as someone once he came in after recess, class is great for us. Good day.

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Now the teacher that you had was what was her name again? That little garden. And Iraq.

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The word right either by what grade do and she came mental faculty member minus 5. See outwards

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they're required way of dressing. Yeah. Okay. Sounds folks who claimed

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that he had like 75 battery? Never. Okay. When you did have a substitute

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and this is for our library, you'll remember that whatever they want as a library, crack stay in the school.

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Books other than textbooks, headphones. For like there might have been in this business that we did at book that we could take out.

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Do you remember what books they were? Family. Robin said over there. Without either having textbooks on different thing.

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Yeah. Sure. That's fine. When when you had classwork,

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did you have a notebook for each student? Had a notebook that we did class where you just had individual sheets. Where did you have individual sheets of paper

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that the teacher would hand them? A black boy. Who did that go home with you or did that stay here for

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technical thing you had did you have how hard was it was? It was a lot of homework. Look, I can do that.

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We'll see with David. The other great thing to do. We had to be quiet. Please look it up and over to collect up

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to collect the home for grades or grades? Can be. So she would come from there over and over. I wish I could administrator.

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Yes. Okay. We'll see we'll put them up for the grades to be great, very good. After after the peace agreements implemented. And how often did this happen?

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I think twice the law. Welcome to do that, but okay. So so so your teacher had already given you grade,

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so she was just collecting the grades for each student. Okay. Okay. Do you remember any body

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else coming to the school, whether they be and greater nurse who have in their life. They did have a nurse becoming

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kilowatt com when you say once in a while, three times during the school year for everyone? Not a lot.

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Okay. Okay. So so so what if what happen if someone had an injury?

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Did did your teacher take care that, you know, he didn't he didn't have a nurse is to go to headache,

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nosebleeds can bleed, that kind of thing. Mostly call the parent. Pick that. Well, what happened?

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Basically healthy, didn't have never get a low fidelity to get rid of it. So what else happened during the school day?

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I'm going to jump in and out when I was asked after recess and you had kids? Yeah. Sinai, classwork,

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back to school. So that was part of the student's responsibility to high.

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Was there someone who was like a custodian who had a bigger responsibility, critique for the maintenance of the building and bringing a girl

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responding to the parents. How involved were they in the school? That the parents for our Minnesota PTA and they had input

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and remember that part of the thing. And you said that there was alright, let me go back to this. What about tests? When we're talking about

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homework and then grades being collected? What about test? Do you remember taping? How frequently?

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And what these tests on all the topics? History, math, English to English, spelling. But what's your favorite? Favorite? Always.

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What was your least favorite day? Yeah. So many of us struggle with that scene. I think.

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Did you how do you remember what's your scripture residing in school? Like was that part of the beginning of the school day?

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Yeah. Beginning exercises. Glad I did.

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And then the teacher, Bobo. You don't really remember any Bible person? I'm sorry, I forgot her teacher sat there. And where you learn

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rules regarding how many how many? Like first, second, third, fourth, fifth. The contrary. At like how many how many students were

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there on an average each year you had like he had to give thoughtful. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was always home was whether

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order every time two or more students in those seats for did the teacher

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ever engage some of the older students to help with the lessons for the older students. Did did you participate that? Yeah.

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How was that? You did that help you the piece? What do you feel like that helped you to learn your lessons a

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little better than I do either number 1 or I can do that, but I want to look and already filament factory today.

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Have a stupid fellow students to what's the plan? Everyday. So it's at the school that you went to ask

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why are now and what grade? That was that like pointing different from Darwin. Do something different.

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I did it when it was different than an hour. You uncomfortable. Did it did it take you a while to adjust to? It?

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Did because when I started school with flat large enough for a company, they copy all of them.

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Had to go to a church, which would literally my partner. So where was most known? Middleton, I'll create still.

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Okay. I'm just saying I think I think there is still wanted it. That was the same school.

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What did the teachers kinda help you to adjust to me. Yeah. And how did how did the students treat you?

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Said how about that? He thought that the nave are I think, kind of spark that thing. Like we thought we were big and strong.

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That they feel they probably got it, It's fine. Take a thought. So what is it? Friendly competition or it sounds,

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some students really take it seriously. So that you, now can you watch this thing? That's really going to like, I'm thoughtful, place them on the playground.

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They got over it. But I thought that we didn't think anything. I mean, people use different ways to initiate you yes.

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So to speak. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta prove yourself. That accompany the school.

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Math dagger that this said Well, yeah, because I thought that was pretty I don't when I first started, I was not something you're aware.

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But I almost forgot something up pencil or pen. That will basically get to, you know, get to the next place

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that we went to this church. A lot with work by food. Are we gotta get back to the classroom. So how many classes did

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you have to go to the church for? Basically flew. To do prefer stillborn? Yeah.

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Because we didn't have to go back up to the lungs. Okay. So you didn't have to break up that time.

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It's like the two classes you with their headed to classes and then to the to the school building. That was good.

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That was good. Must have been fun. It's snowing array. You can use for seven agreeing to the 10th grade.

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Okay. And where did you go after that? I didn't think of it. Isn't that can empower.

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And what's that? Again, a different experience. You went there for two years, full-time in February.

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Much so that it's easy to that entity had to do for mental found from Wilmington was what was the transportation what transportation

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was used to take you? The other drugs by the main or other will take a full it's very took

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you went and overtraining. What how what time did you have to February. You have to be at the train station at 730? My work the other day.

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Okay. So you you got driven from home to the train station? That's had to be there at 730.

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And then when it's Monday. And how long did it take you to get to Wilmington? Going to glow and class

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is necessarily going to have a little flaps along. Okay. Is it how many class what time?

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The class system. Okay. How did you get about two baffles to plan a little pill that they've been there,

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done that I'm a big random luck with that they are big buffalo that with a big player,

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that was it. But at the time seemed like you had to make I had to stop and pick up. What was that like? Ride the school bus.

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You have any stories? I really hit that thing and let me let me jump back to the teachers at iron pill.

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Mrs. rider sat with respect, said that's who you have for most of the talking. You remember where she live?

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One thing that you have around transportation. Living on New London wrote was that her place,

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that she ran it? She did. She spoke to me. Okay. What was she like as a teacher?

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Then? My cousins who is both a dog and she was so she was okay. And what would what would your

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life as a teacher also? What went well, what am I looking for? I see strap, yeah, she's stressing this for me.

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You pad to both begin by the teacher. Yeah. What about the other significant body? If he didn't do and she said like it,

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raise your hand or come to love better. But you remember that anybody arrogant factor, anything like that?

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You'd probably get it. You got it. So that was that was pretty good deterrent for

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most of the time. I may ask you where most of the teachers yeah. Well, never mind.

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Hi, guys. I spoke to teachers and they were both females. And is it safe to say they were both African American?

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What about Carnegie incidence is, do you remember students hangs on one another or something happening that was out of the

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ordinary during your time there. Then add it up and here in the US, the beautifully back to vote. In a couple of girls divided one day when

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the food bank to look up, and I probably heard this refers to come into the latter way to get there.

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And switch dot product. So you are stuck up there, is that on the picture and do why you went out there?

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If you build it up, there, had to be okay. Though we thought that would be thumped them up.

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They're going to like them artifacts with my pleasure, I think. And nobody thought they pretended. Like, I remember that you went

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I'm fairly oh my gosh. Delay. Medina. Okay.

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Remember that exactly the way that she seems to remember, she went up there, maybe that little pebbles after that.

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Boys. Let's see the bump at the built with but let go flat. Didn't think he could get a yay, right?

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I'm going to paint with them. Do you think everyone's mind if they've might have to zoom out? Arlene. Arlene?

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I had never heard I heard that. Yeah. We can explain baseball. So was there a family of grains here?

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Glasgow. Glasgow. So she came from Glasgow. It goes cool. Yeah. That's right.

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That's right. Yeah. So what happened with that incident? I mean, the teacher you got switch,

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did you get punishment beyond that? Yeah, but the important thing to think, that's a good handy that's happening.

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Specialized use upset that we didn't have bones. I always had to be on your bed together. Your memory, any other incidents

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like stuff that boys gassed employees to deliver the goods? I mean, like right thing. Something that your husband

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Clark out here when you when you see him since childhood, do you care to talk a little bit about what he was like as a student?

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Yeah. Okay. Not a problem. Okay. Now, one of the kids did happen. The girls did they

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have what what was something going into? A lot of the girls were like you to both get frog and get everything really cool. Though that that one of the thing,

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the big scale, the girls with whatever I grew up not being afraid of, you will know. Yeah. Yeah.

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So did they ever green? Let me submit your frog to the Class. Stick it in somebody's desk that day? Probably be the most recent.

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Yeah, my son did that. Why not do on a rubber snake into the corner. You already told me that this went okay. The Hague.

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When if if bomb. So sometimes people brought lunches, they weren't cook all the time, right. How did you bring them?

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You know, I mean, if you have a bag from both of the fat hello. And we're kind of things did you have for lunch when

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he dropped the launch yourself? For drink. Okay. Because it drink. I'm trying to think back, you know,

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at the time that you went to school and are containers that they had at the time where the cartons and if you had a tranquility

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like glass glass container gardening. Okay. So you'd be pretty careful. I'm breaking. So did you take them home after you remember anything

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about like your textbook? Even know they were in poor shape or shared on the area that the share them in a minute.

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You might have shared reading for chronic condition where they had conditions within a school without some of the books

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was the clever things with this ends tape one side too.