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Today is Friday, March the 16th, 2007. My name is Marsha Adams and I am here at the residence of LCD, the mills and new work.

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In this interview is part of the iron Hill museum's oral history and restoration project. This is males, if you could give

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me your full name, including your name and your date of birth in your place of birth? Okay. I'll see the mills.

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I was born in Wilmington, Delaware. What was the other question? Your date of birth? July 4th, 1939.

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Great. And what was the first names if your parents? Charles and Elizabeth. And what did your dad do for a living?

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God, he was a carpenter, but he also worth or time you gas station to feed the family love. As far back as I can remember,

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he was courting. Okay. And how many children were there and the family?

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Nine. Okay. And you are what number four. Number four.

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And how many sisters or brothers? Six sisters and two brothers. Okay, Great. And how did you

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happen to end up in the iron Hill area? That's a good question. I think my dad just that target the city because he he like to be outdoors a lot.

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I thank you. Now, I write, I was too young to know. And you moved here from Wellington? Yes.

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I had started school in that meeting and I was still in first grade when we damn near. Okay. And then you went to

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the pleasant balanced school? Yes. Okay. And did you start coarse-grained there? I think I was already I must have been second

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because my sister betting that they're chewing morally 14 months apart. So it's kind of hard, good year. You remember the years in ages.

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But then so you would've been lost seven then? Yeah. And then how long did you attend Pleasant Valley?

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It's probably going to say three years. Okay. And then du lot Egypt than when you left the iron heel area, where did you move to?

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Briefly. To sound church, right. And we were just too much for the house. Too many people then

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that's when we move to Glasgow. Okay. Up there. And then you attended the glass those who will for how many years?

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34, fifth, sixth, yeah. And then from Glasgow away as you go, neglect those Google. To new war nor

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the school at that time was on academies tree. It was some 1st through 12th grade. So they added on later on.

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During that time, everybody we are in the same school of us love evil first grade or senior. So you got to know everybody.

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Now when you are going to the Pleasant Valley school, How did you get to school from your UOP? And I drove up there the other

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day just to see how far was and it's a mile and 3 tenth to the school and we never missed a day.

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We only had 10 railing. Do you know what kind of school started and prevent? Tell me about what does it look

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like inside when he walked. But first of all, the outside of the school with their trees or a play area? Yes.

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There were a lot of trees around it. Play area. I don't remember much. Probably just that flatter.

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Remember swinging out at noon? My thumb. Okay. And then when everybody gathered at the schoolhouse in the morning,

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how did you walk it inside? What was your teacher's name? I'll see straddling. Straddling.

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Describe opportunity. What did she look like? You remember? C was very stout woman that I always smile and really pleasant.

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Maybe not how old was she when she TO probably seen a lot older, but she was probably in her poverty to g of I think she had a son.

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I'm not sure. She I know she did dumb paper mill in new R. And when they closed Pleasant Valley, she went to teach at harmonies school,

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which is on seven, right? We're 72, comes out a boomerang and that school has been converted, I think, to a private him.

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But that one time they had the bell on top there. The Pleasant Valley School out. How many are we didn't have that. Yeah.

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Do you remember who did the teacher ring a balance sheet? Just yell you to come. She had a bell for pitching.

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So then when you came into the school house to start your day, What was it like going inside the front door at hearing them?

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I guess because we had hanger coat, something investor hail, yeah. Put your lunch boxes away and we always had a salute to the flag.

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And there was a verse of the Bible read every morning. And as schools. And then when the teacher

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got about the business of teaching, how did she do that was sixth grade and my mind is blank. She probably that took it says Groups.

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You now gave everybody some paperwork to do and then we'll take a group the side. That's how it was a Glasgow and I've never more Flask app.

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Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Do you remember anything about your books? What condition they were?

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Not very good accuracy, none of that really. Was there ever a visit by the school superintendent?

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Remember? I don't remember that. I remember like a nurse would come and we'd all be weighed

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and measured now and I don't remember whether anybody else came. I think what the answer is that the arc cheek and the music.

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Was your dentist in every school? Yes. I believe there was somebody to come like how nourished or something like that.

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And when at the time people are going to Pleasant Valley, do you remember what the total number of students were filming?

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I'm going to say maybe 20. That might seem a lot. For sixth grade. Then after school, you would again walk home.

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There was never any bus provided. Oh, no. Now now in fact, that was Obama Pike, What is what is called now.

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And back then it was my input read, only 1.5 of the road was pay the other half booster. And that was Club and nine Flipgrid,

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which is in my feet of concrete. And maybe one car with past you. While you while we were walking. What did you said you

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brought your lunches to school. Was there a stove inside the school? Or I can remember just like a pot belly stove.

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And this is gradually we'd have a pot of soup on there. Oh, really? And the kids will sit there.

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Mencius. Did she make the soup or when I add 8 or evidently it was from state because bigger there's

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the commercial pants I can remember. And we were poor, so we couldn't pay for it. But if there was any leftover and we

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got and whenever they had tomato soup, we knew that because that wasn't very floppy. Pick the kids with tomato soup was all it was lab.

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So you brought your lunches and then soup was provided just like in the winter months or was it all you enter? How did she get to school?

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She drove a strategy that and if we happen to be walking in, the weather was bad and she was she would pick us up

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really fine as it was pretty crowded with badge back then in the car. Now, how long did you live in the area? Do you know how many years you were there?

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Between living on a hill and then living in Glasgow? Maybe three. I'm thinking about like when my sister

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Nancy was born in China, it was because she was born right before the new downhill and she wasn't old enough to go to school

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when we get the Glasgow. So I'm thinking like was that three years okay. Landscape for 77 or eight.

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When? After school was over and you got back home, then what did you do? Did you have homework to him and I don't remember having him work.

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That the memories I have for my mother, we had a cook stove, Keystone Cops Dave and has waking him through school.

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She'd have the oven on the oven door. Um, so we get oh, wow, our hands and feet. I can remember with hot I

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guess more than anything. Because of the long walk, turn, a first grade or second grade or anybody.

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They have running water inside the school now. And outside bathroom? Yes.

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Then when you got home from school, did you have chores that you need to do? Not really. Going until we got older.

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Must have been like laundry with that many children. And then there's the I and everything too. And probably I can remember my mother lost

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an ANA was born heating water, going out, pumping the water when you knit in heating it. And then of course,

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she had a Washer says she had to work toward. What about telephones? We didn't have a phone there. Did ever radio.

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When you walk to school, did you have occasion to pass children that were walking through the hills school?

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I'm sure we did. Because of the colored school. We must have. Since everybody was so busy at home. Was there any socializing

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going on the neighborhood? Not so much the neighborhood now we were kind of isolated because we had each other.

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What kind of games did you find? Well, of course, hide and seek. King of the hill. Different things like that. Like remember when games

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statue where we'd swing each other round and yellow. Just different things. In the winter time, was there a place to go

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sliding scale where we lived we lived on top of the hill, so it was downhill for about a quarter of a mile.

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And then we have to trudge back up. Sometimes we got arrived with the bread man, a man. That's right.

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So all that stuff was delivered back then. He didn't well, I don't know about the note because we had a cow and I remember my mother making butter.

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So we finally just had to Brittany. And now when you needed groceries, where did you go to Giant anymore? Main Street new or

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was that a treat for you to go? And I don't remember too much of it when I was younger. But I can remember wanting to Bloomington

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and that he had this Model, a Ford, I guess with the truck, but I had a top a over it and slats on the back.

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And we get out of the truck up there and Wilmington and everybody would laugh that is due now. We throw it in the book

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that I can remember daddy having to crank it. Can't imagine how long it must have taken to get in Wilmington. How we're holidays, separate, celebrated.

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Wow, Christmas course was always that big of a and then we give them aren't hill, we didn't get to a church

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or Sunday school there. So whatever was a school that was it. And then what type of projects that you have a school for Christmas, Easter.

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G I remember making declarations for the Cherokee. Now these little paper here, chains cheery in.

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Now, everything is handmade then they didn't buy anything. Speaking of making things for special events now,

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post supplied the paper and crayons. I would assume that the school district, I guess we were still under knew our school district that the time that,

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I guess Senate is 10000 years ago. I didn't know that was longer than that value. When you lift that heel,

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How close was your next neighbor? Well, it was owned by the property and the rat course. We had the rental house and it was done

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by John reality or Liao RIA? Yeah, I believe. And it was a poultry farm or we did have a counting policy

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that we're hear in our uh-huh. And then history alley later on, he was president of the bank. Well, I knew I had never forgot

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the name reality because that's who ended property and OMA at this be gases. A lot nicer than ours are those re-enlist that

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I was doing business with the bank if I am, I can't there. And there was a big chicken. I'm about five or six feet tall.

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Like Fourier of the bank. And I asked him, I said, John Ray, did you ever have a poultry farm

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and aren't hell, he said Yeah, and he pointed to the chicken you now, I never says Father.

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Years and years later he and I met now. He was probably just an infant than when they're small world. Now, would you say most of

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the people now than there were self-sufficient as far as their food? Pretty much, though, yes. But the poultry and eggs and account opinion,

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everybody have a garden hose. Yeah. So when you look I Mystery House, property where you like a tenant and your dad worked for New aren't

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glamour for a while before he got into instruction. And when he got into construction that he built houses.

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Well, the only thing I remember than was books I beamed out. And that's where he worked. And that was a new thing there in

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early housing projects and it was Pena I like the leather can in Philadelphia. But when you had

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your Christmas program at school, was there like a PTA organization? How did the did the parents become involved? And I don't remember a PTA,

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but I think we had programs their parents income because that's what the school did they ever use the school building

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for anything other than school and like voting, please. What were some of the names? The businesses in the area.

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Oh, well, businesses in that area. And I mean, there weren't even 896 wasn't travel much in those days and the only business that I can think of as toy,

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but he did cooperate there. I can, um, I can think of how many people are actually own a car. Probably everybody had to have

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some kind of transportation because you couldn't. Another was close enough to walk into a business

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that you'd had been in New York. What was it you like best about living on AI ML? I guess for a kid,

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you know the freedom to be able to go anywhere you now and it will be saved. And just being a kid. Did you ever have a Hayride?

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Not there. Didn't come into 48 hour later. You said there really wasn't much time for socializing.

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It didn't neighbors exchange fruits and vegetables with one another? Or did you buy them from neighbors? Are we pretty much hit?

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Pretty much. Because whenever the campaigns freezers than Florida, things can be to teach you how to do it.

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Yeah. You better stay out of my way. So then as you got older, actually moved away from high-end heel down to the Glasgow area.

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Did you have chores in the house, outside of the house then as you get older, I think all we all had to work into Cornwall, had to feed the chickens and pigs

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and help with the younger kids. Had to do something. So he had pigs to oh, yeah. And you raise those for your meat?

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Yes. It's a counter family that would slaughter the pigs every year. Really. First they come and put that rings and your nose

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is and that was a horrible, horrible i've I've tried to get away, away from its, I wouldn't hear squealing that they knew

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what they were doing. And that was to keep him from routing under the fences. That rings button noses.

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And then they were big enough for me were slaughtered. And so then the Congress to take them to slaughter them at their house.

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And every new to meet that he probably went and picked it up. This wasn't a mom who was Glasgow and matter. Now, apparently everybody in the eye in

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hilly area or the Glasgow area was or the same economic means. Pretty much sell in G. Do you remember a family that you

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thought was really wealthy? Yes. People that are in the horse formula in Glasgow. I don't know.

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I don't remember everybody anybody being really poor. I believe it's OK. Now, tell me about the people that own the WIFIRE,

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what was there and I think biased, yeah. I can remember a family named crack that had a way with that. And it was just before

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the new police station flooded with right? I'm recording, yes. So if you were going across 30 to 40 East twice Wilmington than

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it would have been on the right-hand side of the road yes. Before you can continue to Mm-hm. Okay. Now, with the different races that

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were living in the area, was there ever any kind of an issue? Ever remembering? Not know it stand out.

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Then you didn't have to lock your doors. You didn't. There was no crime. Everybody helpline ANOVA, whether you were colored and white.

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So he knew somebody that was sick. If there were no telephones. How did people get news of what was going on in the world?

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I have no idea. We always had a radio that that was it. That's all I can remember. Tell me about discipline at school,

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either at the Pleasant Valley School or at the Glasgow School. What did the children do that got them

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into trouble with the teacher? Oh, I can think of me talking with him. And how did the teacher discipline them? Remember?

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She had a chair if I her desk. You'd have to sit in. If you were the one doing the talk and what

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was the teacher's name of the Glasgow School? Always a bit for books where she related to the Brooks Family. I don't own a home.

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And her son met there. But when I when I was growing up, the laws family, they're in what is now the groups house.

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The big cows with the Stonewall? Yeah. I believe it's this is Brooks, his son, that lives there next to

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it as the old and cater arrange all. It's still there. Things. Yeah. It's painted like a reddish color

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and it's right across from the Presbyterian Church. Grain 20 is where we had our Lean party, Christmas party.

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I guess the new farmers in the area and met their later years. Years later they built arrange Hall, which is now just pass People's Plaza.

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And I rode by the idea of a day and it's no longer range. It's a Baptist church. A lot a lot of things have changed

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their law in Glasgow. But when we're gone up, everything revolved around school, church you for age at birth.

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Or Sunday school teacher was there for four h leader. What was your scientists? Will people said, well,

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maybe 30. That I remember. It was Mrs. Mac only and this is Palmer and came to me. And I know I saw her no.

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Too long ago. When we were talking a week, you mentioned Amos's Palmer, but there's nothing special about her.

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She was just a sweet person and I love gone to visit. C lived in a house which is now the new castle county parks.

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That let us down wow. Wasn't from her hand, but it's no longer there. The trees and the voices and

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the Stonewall is still there. But I remember and I don't know how I was at the time, but we were always together,

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a sister or brother. And we'd get them to where she had her. She also had chickens. She had a mean like a care that worked for

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her and he would let us grade the chickens. How to do that? The chickens now if you buy eggs, That's a great chickens.

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Grade the egg. Okay. A grade the grade or whatever. The reason we'd like to get it there because it

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was partway in a hill and it was always cool in there, somewhere there Commission. It was always really cool and that we

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learn how to write the egg and it'll bring it in. Good thing. Maybe 11, 12, 13.

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With that, on a chicken lays the eggs, a very rough like sandpaper. And we would like sand them down for this smoothness.

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Really know. I probably didn't even do that anymore. Yeah, that was a long time again. Remember grade?

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And in Glasgow every spring my brother got chicken, baby chicks. I think 50 chickens for 48. And he would raise, show the fare,

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which is Dan Harrington. I think at the time now I think they're really and so how do you do with the chickens that oh yeah,

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we've got good ribbons and then that's when we started helping another, the panning silly kid. I was never wanted to say Charlotte,

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who's the South in Leander things that but there was a big thing that I felt like it hits tinnitus. Good, clean fun is to be,

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to occupy yourself, not have to be entertained. We were the first ones to get TV now, like rhinorrhea.

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I remember it was floor model and it had a 10-inch Rand's green. And certain things you remember, you know, like a Tuesday nights

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was Milton Berle show them the texts, the koala, and then there was a wrestling shelf where our neighbors would come

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every whatever night it was Monday or Wednesday. They would come down and watch the wrestling in

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our house because they had that day. But as far as a neighborly air again, mother was so busy and so whose data you're working

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two jobs that you didn't obsessional. You knew that your neighbor was one. Who's like your farms. We lived on their property

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and we got babysitting job. I remember when you go skating rink and I would work in an antique shop cleaning glassware

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every morning and make $0.50 and get paid that $0.50, 25 different the skates and twenty-five cents to get in.

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Yeah. And then you walk to the thing. Oh, yes. And that was on before

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you call the amendments. That was called mere man, married. And that we always had, always had a huge garden.

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Always and take care of the garden or playground was the cemetery. Haydn see, period after our 4 H meetings, we go in.

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Here you have our games. A major and fun. How many children are in the boy age group? It's probably a dozen or 151.

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Continuing the interview with LC for fiscal males. Mrs. Miller, you know, if any of the people that lived in

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the area where you that there are these two? I I doubt it because I know there's a big development. Will dump their hands.

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And it looks if you ride by C where at one time never chicken houses and their role in dilapidated paint.

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I think. I didn't think anybody's in that area. Maybe a couple of the color families because that church there,

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an old man, I guess, always crowded. And I missing there. I'm then I think Thomas Charity. I believe it is. I don't know, 15.

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Somebody older families might still be there. And I'm sure somebody younger, again isn't the congas. Every several.

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Remember to identify and number Charlotte in the cortex? Yes. This is Charles always lived in your area. She moved away,

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so being able to keep better track, it seemed like chickens were everywhere. Yeah. Where do people ever I know they raise them for your own consumption but

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do they ever taken to market someplace? Definitely. And wherever that market normally tend to none. Either on came on

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King Street and some of them literally have them. So what they have like I'm up an air farmers market now,

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just the trucks parked along the street and they might have the tailgate of the crops and tables set up. I can remember.

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I mean, did you go to Sunday school? He can cater to Yasser? Yes. What was that like? Wonderful.

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Because we revolved around church, school 1 and 4 H. And I guess like the church was the center of all because we

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get our Christmas programs, Children's Day, Easter, halloween choir there. It was great because we

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in people's minds back. So if you were to summarize your memories, I'm living in Glasgow area. How would you put it into a few words?

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It's kind of hard because unless you believe that you now mean There's no comparison today of what it was then.

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And we didn't know we were poor. We didn't know that the next door neighbor might have a fancier house with his innocence.

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Growing up there. You had your innocence and nothing ever disturb that you and I just remember even if you didn't hear

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about drug and alcohol and movies and homelessness, he didn't hear any of that. When you went through the glass half-full New

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Art Academy free with adequate shock? Oh, definitely. Yes. Because changing classes or something. Oh, definitely was a big change.

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But still, I think here's a part of me that still they are. Glasgow. Hello.

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Can't take laden memory now. Thank goodness. True. When you read the Glasgow School, was that a one or two branches 11 ended?

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They have water running water inside. Knowing that there might have been a sink in the vestibule? Vaguely, I think I can remember

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saying this is my job. Yes. Because my job would be changed. The flour and the water,

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the MAC and PHY remember there was a thing. Because at the end of the week, the families with dad and yucky, I can remember, yes.

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Images, those are the teacher had fresh flowers in the classroom. Well, in nice weather window. And we always read a version.

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Works. Pledge, allegiance to the boy's parents. And I was always the oldest girl. And I would take maybe

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the first grade or second grade to a corner. They might only be three or four. And either reading lesson to them. Well, this is perhaps was with another one.

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Then seem like, you know, you think like if you ever go in math and in the next group of reading, that you get confused, but it never

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like you knew what you had to do and be able to be quiet, you're quiet. See that she was kind of strict and she also had a bell.

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If she ever socialize with the families. And I well, every once in a while I can get like even like in that picture, downtimes party abundantly.

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Some parents might have come and I know always at the Christmas parties program. Did you have to recite?

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Oh, yeah. They did. In Sunday school to him. It was at things we had to memorize and practice to each other.

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What about report cards? For years, I saved the report card and remember too much only did a record board.

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And I don't think we found was often is the case. The mail or tests that are a member cake into

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tests like they do now. I want you to, they had painted as clown. And there I think Mrs. Brooks does belong to. Check your eyes, your key.

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I'm not sure but I can remember doing the I because I had to start wearing glasses. And Glasgow.

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During that will please called maps store. In Glasgow. I think. Might have been Mr. Max door disconnect is

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they should be some nice clean community. I yeah. In his gas station was write down the core of whom were Charlotte.

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That's now if the snake has station was right. I'm 41. I dampen the skating rink.

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I don't. Okay. Do you ever get a chance to stop their home every day? Yeah. Stop and get an ice cream cone.

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The bayonet with a tree. Well, Mr. Mack was very medically who was our Sunday school teacher,

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and therefore, I don't see it right next to the church. It's funny because the Sunday school teacher I had

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them is still around. She belongs the Christiana far from the auxiliary. And I see you every once in a while.

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Yeah. I can't think of a man. And she knew where she lives now. Within the bare area. Did you ever can church services?

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And it was always downstairs. What to go upstairs at Christmas and Easter, up an sanctuary. And we weren't that many people.

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And that the pastor had headquarter Presbyterian and St. George's because Karen said He who was it?

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So basically then everything centered around, as you said, the church before age. When you go back there and you drive around your neighborhood,

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what do you think about it? Sab it really hard because what Charles said that changed their minds,

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that the church hasn't changed at all. It still looks fine. In fact, they are stiff and the school looks a mess.

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Yeah. Methodist Church is no longer there. But the gray hasn't changed other than painted. So there's still a few landmarks.

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There's a big stone house. In fact, that it looked like it might have been two hours at one time. And it goes back many

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years and the height and family that year. Now, what's an ENTP gift shop? Right? Aware Wendy's is riots

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on the west side of 40. If you're going that way and it passes through there. And I can remember the force

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that wouldn't be a plank floors in there and endures for small. Everything was small or years? Yeah.

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I could see us for lower. But like I said, it's still there and I've been through it as a shop on TV.

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And if lepton it's so much smaller now then yeah, because I used to babysit. There are what firstly,

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there there wasn't any glands kitchen, there wasn't any skating rink, there wasn't too much. And wherever McDonald's is was

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just the marshlands to chaos there. And the house that used to sit between the two hallways or uses laser printing was made them

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leisure Scotland deaf and open. A new upper house from the middle of the highway to visit your farm? Yeah, there as you go into

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the Ziglar finds its them walls. I think there's still they are the canyons at all now. That's where the park is.

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Well, there's a curved walls there. And to the right of it is was this lay here. So we have still there, our boarded up and they move

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that from a fundamental fully. And we're 1896 gave out now the new 1896. All the houses that were on that side, which is the mourners, the DALYs bottlers.

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Of course, they all had to be torn down. I remember when you put the trailer park in air back in the fifties and it

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still there's a sales plays, there are still a few things. So what would you like to say to people? The next generation that is coming

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behind me with your children or your grandchildren. How would you summarize living there? What would you have changed,

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anything, if anything, go back to that way. I like I mean, it was just peaceful and it's four-fifths formula again.

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I'm a fan. No worries. Now, officer to worry about. Yeah.

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There's always eat on the table. My mother bake every single day. Like I said, she made a border. What about if you had

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a real medical emergency where it was the closest hospital? And I can remember the doctor even come to the house.

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I'm new on Dr. Johnson who visits. And then New York wasn't that close. And I'll pop as we did up there before. It breaks their price,

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before the crisis of paint. I remember when they built the building which is still there. And because a 4 H,

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We used to go there for different things. And I can remember one time the snow drifted right up to the snow fences.

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They use no fences a lot back then. And this address, we're past the snow fences and nobody could get out to the store of others.

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The store I've been in town. And this was a place where we live for just a short time I remember, but we went by horse and buggy.

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Horse and slay rarely say to the grocery store Nobel account. The horse's name of a star. And it just my kids lack of open data.

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What it was so much fun. Today. Every everybody has to have a car as soon as they turn 16. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. So you were really happy that we had a big childhood go now. And I'm sure everybody else did that come up there. That's what I'm hearing.

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It's a shame. You can't meet with some of these lightyears. And we do know that reside in Middletown area because my granddaughter had

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a little boy has names like okay. And there's another hap coating. Have he still has a form? Happy. Charlotte Nelis, real name?

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I've heard that name before. Did he work at the diet mill? I don't think so. They dairy farmers because

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rang a bell with me when you said that. Oh, yeah. And how many people have international might know? Charlotte and Grace.

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How do you spell that name site Arduino x0y0. I t we are. And you think they live in the middle count area now?

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I know there's a family there now. Some of them moved up to Pennsylvania. Z i e, e. And the cooked form is still down there.

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Now, that's phrase your grade. That's for their farmers. I've read his name on it was to the Rotary Club.

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You not gone to waste kitchen. They have different clocks, their meetings of different grays. And I know they're very nice,

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they're aligned. And that's when you can find some older people, I think. Yeah.

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Absolutely. Okay. Let's then we'll conclude. Thank interfered with LC for males. This is that at the end of tape one side too.