00:00:01.260 - 00:00:16.060

Okay, This is take three, side one, and we're here with Gail Greenwich and also Laura Lee from the Hill Museum. Okay.

00:00:16.060 - 00:00:28.570

We were talking about projects. Whether any other questions I mean, any other comments about that? Pretty much don't remember who it

00:00:28.570 - 00:00:37.420

was said she never got too much going on. That paper, skipped school. When i if you didn't go to school and you were saying,

00:00:37.420 - 00:00:53.070

Okay, I know the other one that I wanted to ask you. So the teacher pretty much parents didn't complain about the discipline

00:00:53.070 - 00:01:01.450

than the teacher day, right? Yeah. They did tangibles to access it. Now she did. She's probably better than your parents?

00:01:01.450 - 00:01:15.140

Would have been the guy that got ketones. Okay. What about test? Did you take them regularly?

00:01:15.140 - 00:01:23.240

Yes. How regular? Home. You can't really be sure but I know you were

00:01:23.240 - 00:01:34.100

tested before the marking periods. What n I know you had you had test and then or as you let me see if you finish

00:01:34.100 - 00:01:42.840

a certain subject or area here. Now, if you were just doing your letters or numbers or something, you know, you were tested

00:01:42.840 - 00:01:50.330

quite often on that. And then plus and then you had the state tests because that lady used to guess what she has to break them

00:01:50.330 - 00:01:57.080

and to see where the talus the school was still. Of course, the older grades were tested a lot more than

00:01:57.080 - 00:02:10.430

the younger ones because they want more depth than what they were doing. Everybody took same time. I guess by that,

00:02:10.430 - 00:02:18.530

I mean, that the sixth graders, everybody in this whole test at the same time now, thicknesses prayers reading

00:02:18.530 - 00:02:28.610

it talks about only because he doing phone was ringing, something else. You don't want me they could be reading

00:02:28.610 - 00:02:38.960

or you weren't doing a test. Like if you were doing like say if we were doing like spelling, and then if you were doing spelling,

00:02:38.960 - 00:02:46.280

this one was doing math. Nobody was using to you. I'm just saying I think that's how she okay. Because I was just wondering if you're taking

00:02:46.280 - 00:02:54.380

a test and the whole class. It was pretty quiet because okay. So you've had you can be doing something but you have to be very quiet.

00:02:54.380 - 00:03:02.630

Nice. What about, I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of covered a little bit about do you know any of

00:03:02.630 - 00:03:08.300

the children who attended the online school? I don't know the node. We're not going to school. Yeah.

00:03:08.300 - 00:03:16.000

It was right down the road here, President Pleasant Valley because it's right there haven't been our element has a badly and I don't know

00:03:16.000 - 00:03:28.230

how well the Davis's must have went there because they always live there. The white flowers, I want more pay okay. I guess to commit suicide to go there.

00:03:28.230 - 00:03:40.670

Okay. I remember really is when I went to fifth grade and then it was white school, costs of voice left crus throne.

00:03:40.670 - 00:03:49.020

They went there. They were younger phrase with my brothers, you know, because they were still here when highway.

00:03:49.020 - 00:03:56.780

But that was because a fifth grade because he didn't go to middle. So I already say if they hadn't if the segregation thing,

00:03:56.780 - 00:04:01.370

I'm going to want to move so ready. Okay. So you stop the hook but they were still here?

00:04:01.370 - 00:04:06.650

Yes. My I still had two younger sisters and two younger brothers here.

00:04:06.650 - 00:04:11.640

But at that time, the school only went up to fourth grade. Great. Okay.

00:04:11.640 - 00:04:20.680

As I said before, so find this in a theft. Nurse was saying, okay, for now when Gladys Wilson second this with David, was it firsthand?

00:04:20.680 - 00:04:35.740

So the state of the last year and the other three went to wholesale, ready. Okay. Okay. When talking about that early 60s again,

00:04:35.740 - 00:04:43.460

and one of the things I wanted to ask now at that time, What's our running water content that you want to hear?

00:04:43.460 - 00:04:52.400

You say a water fountain, Minho. Okay. Okay. So you didn't have to worry about that? Because I know I know we've talked

00:04:52.400 - 00:05:04.760

with some people and they had to go to you and spray in the woods. But from my great grandma grannies, I remember getting one from there.

00:05:04.760 - 00:05:12.540

I can also remember when the risk in or out of a ditch, that's my mama supernovae superintendent. Advantage.

00:05:12.940 - 00:05:21.410

Took off. But the daily you've got. But like, hey, Ryan, I don't know, Randy up on my spring or I don't

00:05:21.410 - 00:05:30.740

know what but I know it was a bitch. I took that water bucket a bit unfair to put this back to house them. You said yeah, you got to

00:05:30.740 - 00:05:44.450

have these to keep like there's no cans. Okay. What you heated it to bathe and stuff. That things just for so polluted. Now at an early

00:05:44.450 - 00:05:52.380

and you didn't think of adding. But I remember the spring, the moderate was always so nice and clear and cold and it was good.

00:05:57.700 - 00:06:12.710

Piano was their piano in school. Okay. That time it must have taken it out because I know some of the folks remember classes and stuff.

00:06:12.710 - 00:06:17.960

Did you ever take when you ever bothered music? Fifth grade. Okay.

00:06:17.960 - 00:06:23.480

When you went to the others, what those are right now. You know what? I never went to the LSAT reading.

00:06:23.480 - 00:06:26.730

Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

00:06:26.730 - 00:06:37.400

That witness a glacier maybe leisure. I'm not up on 40. Okay. Well, I think they build a new school, Nala, but it's fine.

00:06:37.400 - 00:06:43.300

It was great. And back of course, from LOS okay. Super j. It was right there.

00:06:43.300 - 00:06:54.070

I don't know what they use their name because they chastening naked after or maybe leisure. She was a leading lady teacher.

00:06:54.070 - 00:07:00.150

She does. Well, I'm not so sure what she there when you were at that school? That's how did you haven't?

00:07:00.150 - 00:07:08.240

Yes. I remember her slightly in a face with a fly. And I went and I call my mom. She got my graph.

00:07:08.240 - 00:07:15.530

I looked there. Take a lot of costs because my mom was this moment. If you ever hit my daughter in

00:07:15.530 - 00:07:22.640

the face again because I didn't do my homework. Yeah. Okay. Well, I had a smart math joke with my mouse,

00:07:22.640 - 00:07:30.680

I guess it was my dad would read like, you know, a lot of moms like it on my face. And my grandfather had to pull us.

00:07:30.680 - 00:07:40.330

He's got all the cancer was ripe for all cases. Function just broke. My bone interface issues.

00:07:40.330 - 00:07:49.460

And out of the exchange of words, she was like, yeah, not make it to your face. I never forget. Is my moms to be awesome.

00:07:49.460 - 00:07:57.450

Yes. So what was there any legal ramifications from that? I mean, because yeah,

00:07:57.450 - 00:08:09.990

because it will settle within the school principal and everything. Yeah. Wow. Wow. So so okay. Well, let me get back.

00:08:09.990 - 00:08:20.270

I better let me stay with with with Ira on your shirt. I don't want to venture off and aligned. Yeah. Where did you had Mrs. writer?

00:08:20.270 - 00:08:29.770

That was the full-time teaching. Where did she did at that time? Right on my mother's side. We were talking about that.

00:08:29.770 - 00:08:45.710

And she drove like large. Okay. You gave us this stuff we've already

00:08:45.710 - 00:08:53.490

talked about before. What about large on now, did you how did you had lunch? Inequality?

00:08:53.490 - 00:09:05.120

There was no more. How are you cooking? Like I say, if if you didn't have school day, that was my grandma lives there, but usually you just

00:09:05.120 - 00:09:12.450

wanted a sinner thinking when I say it about the water fatness, like never got me, never had an opportunity or anything.

00:09:12.450 - 00:09:19.920

You ate your lunch and then you got some water? Yeah. Everybody just like water. Times just change to yes.

00:09:19.920 - 00:09:29.090

Mike writes on take seizures is eric Danielson inputs to juices? That is he said Our Lady, Grace, and know that the pronoun she could get them

00:09:29.090 - 00:09:36.470

not program by KT side. And actually because you combined now, we're not quite like that. They'll need refrigerator,

00:09:36.470 - 00:09:42.320

but it just gives energy. Okay. Okay. Now we didn't have any of

00:09:42.320 - 00:09:52.170

that correlate your head like we got for a month. He always had a big old Europeans. I mean, it's, it's like,

00:09:52.170 - 00:10:01.290

I remember the most had Spock and correlate because the candy was never happy. We might use to make it the tunneling.

00:10:01.390 - 00:10:08.290

You always say that and they always had only donuts and cookies. They always had tons and tons of cans of cookies.

00:10:08.290 - 00:10:14.960

Yeah. I remember when I used to make it all the time my son always drank

00:10:14.960 - 00:10:28.580

it and now I need to buy it. They just Crick Institute at least the stuff. You say you didn't have individual drinking cups.

00:10:28.580 - 00:10:50.260

Now, you talked about there are wonderful. Wanted. A lot of fat still works workspace weeks. Other than the head.

00:10:50.260 - 00:10:59.890

Recreation and recess. So was that your physical education? You didn't have like this age, so you didn't really have, says, Hey,

00:10:59.890 - 00:11:08.870

but I remember we used to do the gains things. They sound like the Field Day. We had has some kind of fencing class you do.

00:11:08.870 - 00:11:15.710

But when you he used to do jumping jacks, I know you did exercise. She did. I show it had to be FSA type workday.

00:11:15.710 - 00:11:23.540

As we played like a baseball and stuff like that, she would happen to the house. And then the Field Day, that

00:11:23.540 - 00:11:30.800

was another school. Now we can hear everything. Okay. Do you remember any other schools

00:11:30.800 - 00:11:42.230

come here and there and listen? I used to be other schools. I'm sorry. The other schools that were participating.

00:11:42.230 - 00:12:03.440

Jackie or your changes. You remember what activities they did it? You did have a joint like sack race. I forget that that Ryan mutated relays.

00:12:03.440 - 00:12:09.770

Okay. Okay. May Day that good. Yaw.

00:12:09.770 - 00:12:26.630

But I've made a hat because I can remember, but I don't it settles for me, but I now remember to us than one and the same color make

00:12:26.630 - 00:12:36.280

it right and they just change. What about that? What does the school used for meetings other than classroom?

00:12:36.280 - 00:12:46.490

Remember that I told you remember the dances. But that's yeah. That's because it was stupid. I mean, you had no choice. You had to go.

00:12:46.490 - 00:12:57.080

My parents came and square dance and they don't have a bonfire, roasting marshmallows. And where did they did a bonfire?

00:12:57.080 - 00:13:11.780

All right, that's our background. Now. It's like everybody came like Saturday evening with their kids and so I don't I don't remember if they had

00:13:11.780 - 00:13:21.500

meetings that they had to at one time or another. When they decide like to close a school where

00:13:21.500 - 00:13:34.430

none of that stuff, I guess. You have more questions. I I got Talia about school day. Remember whether he could move the desks?

00:13:34.430 - 00:13:46.580

Are they written out to them? You can move the scoop them babies, right? Do you remember imagined some classmates remembering names

00:13:46.580 - 00:13:52.700

of other people that went to school here with you. Oh, I know everybody would just cool. It was to say, well, what's the most is the

00:13:52.700 - 00:14:04.040

job's to Chad launched a website with the Smiths to girls predators that nobody else. Earl smith and see the channel has an R.

00:14:04.040 - 00:14:16.750

But in my family on my mom's side, Mister Webster Smith, and then married to the chin. And that's okay.

00:14:16.750 - 00:14:30.540

And you had many rider and then ethyl ROI Today drive to school groups. You don't remember what are they grew up? I didn't get it. I swear I can try.

00:14:31.480 - 00:14:40.160

I remember that was all I can remember. A good prospect because then if you subtract it was one of those cars have had a thing that looked like it had teeth live

00:14:40.160 - 00:14:47.960

in front of yeah. My dad had one. It had a piece like how about overlook the public, the font.

00:14:47.960 - 00:15:00.080

And it'll remember, it looks like he has been on a car that is if I ask you, okay. He's in he's in here is

00:15:00.080 - 00:15:13.820

an acre and maybe even opened. And when we talked about where many rider live readout from Lloyd-Max? Yes.

00:15:13.820 - 00:15:23.500

She lived right next door to us before. Oh, that's right. Because oh, you say it's our Pathway she substituted?

00:15:23.500 - 00:15:35.780

Yes. You probably just go directly to houses over her back. She was directly across from which is now close to the Maronites scheduling.

00:15:35.780 - 00:15:46.490

Yeah. We talked about how the book's pretty sure he had to leave them here for you. Remember whether you had to provide pencils

00:15:46.490 - 00:15:59.900

and paper or whether they gave him, please. I think we provided I can hammer sounds. She has to give us I think an hour and a lower grades because we have

00:15:59.900 - 00:16:10.880

that yellow paper width that's nine on. Okay. Yeah. You'll have this little composition books. Yes.

00:16:10.880 - 00:16:26.760

As you got older, you don't agree this black and white my hands on them. They still useful. Do you remember parents

00:16:26.760 - 00:16:39.460

helping out in any way with the school? That part, yeah. Now, remember nobody. Okay. Did you ever have problems with the restroom?

00:16:39.460 - 00:16:49.610

You don't remember clock an outbreak like that? Always want to always wear pink. And I don't know if you already asked this.

00:16:49.610 - 00:16:56.960

Do you remember any special things he did at school for the holidays, like Christmas play? Yeah. They always had them.

00:16:56.960 - 00:17:05.420

You always had Christmas, Easter allow them to your hats. Who? Loans, speech.

00:17:05.420 - 00:17:16.610

All of a sudden. You may different things to whatever pieces, you know, things and you did all that. Solvent.

00:17:16.610 - 00:17:22.430

Halloween? Yes. Booleans. And like if everybody Let's include this look like

00:17:22.430 - 00:17:28.230

if you were in first grade, she did something that a second thought. Okay. Okay.

00:17:29.860 - 00:17:45.590

Sounds like a lot of kids, But I mean, you may have had six kids in first grade. So you remember the drive way? Do you remember just came up to the bell.

00:17:45.590 - 00:17:53.260

I don't react. I first I was like, I don't remember. I didn't even come on up here. I'm like, I don't think that was dragged way

00:17:53.260 - 00:18:05.070

that I remember I remember sidewalk. I do remember that because I was surprised that I seeing the flag was still there.

00:18:05.070 - 00:18:10.100

Okay. Yeah. Well, you wow. Well, yeah.

00:18:10.100 - 00:18:20.870

Is that right? Yeah. Well well, when we go to here and my grandma, you mentioned that in

00:18:20.870 - 00:18:25.430

the beginning of the day, pledged relation, then there would be a prayer? Yeah. Well, not everybody

00:18:25.430 - 00:18:31.460

really remembered that prayer. You did remember? Yes. I remember specifically what type of prayer,

00:18:31.460 - 00:18:41.040

but I know you had had I had was a different one. I was saying well, I always say, well, I don't want that one.

00:18:41.380 - 00:18:47.450

Because I remember tic-tac-toe until when I secondly, it's like when we went to the white school, didn't he didn't get into

00:18:47.450 - 00:19:00.270

current administrator, have a piano or anything like that? I don't remember if you're a mammal? Nothing.

00:19:00.670 - 00:19:09.110

Well, it wasn't their piano at one time. Yes, you're right. That's right. Somebody remembers Luciana. Rapid graded your members

00:19:09.110 - 00:19:19.160

and I think because monopolies to she placed a Moodle so they had to handle my NF1 one day. She play piano and shadow.

00:19:19.160 - 00:19:27.650

And they had one of the which conflates double according to have wanted to have my uncle used to play that.

00:19:27.650 - 00:19:39.380

I used to. I'm afraid I'm going to have to then. Okay. Okay. I'll ask a couple questions

00:19:39.380 - 00:20:22.830

about thank you. Send me. That was I guess it got to be too many kids.

00:20:22.830 - 00:20:30.800

David, Chancellor McVean because A1 was created. Parker. Yeah. Well, it's right up on 40 minutes is pretty

00:20:30.800 - 00:20:37.670

close then it's like it's a laptop. It's at 47 Yale. He then split is like scored with side you lift while if they

00:20:37.670 - 00:20:46.880

sent you to even say it's sixth grade, why didn't you didn't mole? Now? I think it was just too many kids for

00:20:46.880 - 00:21:00.650

the skull at the time. So yeah, with transition. Because there's May 17th. So everybody knows 1954,

00:21:00.650 - 00:21:11.580

the Supreme Court made the decision to integrate schools. Do you remember remember that in that Only thing I remember is saying that.

00:21:11.580 - 00:21:17.420

Yeah. And then you will be going through that they made it because I remember my dad.

00:21:17.420 - 00:21:25.550

They may say they want to escape, gone to the white school. And nihilistic always call that some of the other families that are present

00:21:25.550 - 00:21:35.120

a case before they've made it a linguist, like optional and no models like well, you might as well get over that. What's your dad's reason

00:21:35.120 - 00:21:43.220

for not wanting to go to their coins AS whole thing. I guess in his own way through There's really prejudice.

00:21:43.220 - 00:21:48.180

But a lot of a lot. It's like, oh, you go there and the first thing. What happens?

00:21:48.180 - 00:21:57.110

So automatically going to blame you. You know, that's that was just his thing. So a motivator protection. Thank you. Yeah, it wasn't a thing up here.

00:21:57.110 - 00:22:07.190

Really feel that you are going to get a better education. You know, Atlas and which I think we got that urban education because I

00:22:07.190 - 00:22:13.890

remember my sister sand that they were flower model and they went to Los I've written and when they went to Christiana kids,

00:22:13.890 - 00:22:21.230

what the end it will surprise, you know, like that and I think that's why I never had a problem. Okay.

00:22:21.230 - 00:22:32.810

Okay. So you figure that the method that Mrs. Miss. Rider use now and the system of education? Yes.

00:22:32.810 - 00:22:45.580

Was much better than when you watch other treppe, much larger classes like I can use to create even though it's one room, 56 kids.

00:22:45.580 - 00:22:53.390

And then when you're talking about going to another school with 25, 30 people in a room, the same gray and with

00:22:53.390 - 00:23:07.050

one person trying to teach you now. Okay. So right. So so you're going from getting most hybrid education yes.

00:23:07.240 - 00:23:18.980

To getting your data many. And so so so the attention that consistent attention you got? Yeah. Because if a problem I

00:23:18.980 - 00:23:25.850

me for Shriver was right there. Even if you need something, she could stop here and come over and help you with their head because

00:23:25.850 - 00:23:34.150

it's so many people here know me. I was very outspoken and it's like, Hey, I need your neck. I was when I did that.

00:23:34.150 - 00:23:40.550

So so that kind of answers that next question. Did that make a difference for you? Did you miss that sort

00:23:40.550 - 00:23:49.730

of intimate type of analogy? I think I missed it somewhat, but I pretty much made them, you know, it's like Excuse me.

00:23:49.730 - 00:23:57.410

Did you hear me I need you I need help with this. It wasn't they would try to wait, wait, wait. You know what this one for

00:23:57.410 - 00:24:07.400

now and I can remember them like putting you in like in the back, seeding and then but I was so back a slide yesterday from me,

00:24:07.400 - 00:24:18.560

which I think to follow you are if you sit and the upper rows, you catch lunch, a war and you're more because they're right there looking at,

00:24:18.560 - 00:24:23.030

you know, you're not over here. Risk primitive type distractibility. It was yes. Yeah. Yes.

00:24:23.030 - 00:24:31.850

So I think that helped a lot. Yeah. What was your teacher? What do you think would be great? I just remember Mrs. leisure.

00:24:31.850 - 00:24:38.300

This is may be relation. Okay. Lady. Yeah. It was it was square it

00:24:38.300 - 00:24:46.660

because my uncle purse was friends with her brother-in-law. He whole manually we're discarding old male Asia.

00:24:46.660 - 00:24:57.930

Hello, My uncle yeas ago a ramp in garbage, like the heads so much John, late they lived up on 40, up right up there, almost spyware.

00:24:58.390 - 00:25:04.130

There's a hair place, a little shadow side cross or Mike de la allowance that they left up in there.

00:25:04.130 - 00:25:11.320

And I remember one time state made and clean up his fabricate. Mean if you threw out of the lecture, he would get it from a Mac or

00:25:11.320 - 00:25:20.880

just young collectors and it didn't matter what it was, they brought it back. All right. Keep an eye on I'll shut up on.

00:25:25.270 - 00:25:38.630

So other than just getting used to I mean, do you remember any other way that this chain affected, you know, in my own afterlife.

00:25:38.630 - 00:25:47.940

I mean, it even talk a little bit of getting used to, but I mean, it didn't take it wasn't months or nothing like that or whether you're just doing night.

00:25:47.940 - 00:25:56.090

And then when you have like a gym and like your race recess was really hard because he took a lot of cues from Kate,

00:25:56.090 - 00:26:05.180

some that I gave a lot when I play with you. Because they're used to. I mean, it was it was hard they had to adjust to.

00:26:05.180 - 00:26:13.880

And for me, I was the only black in the fifth grade. Then the Cochran's moved found moved that on French town room

00:26:13.880 - 00:26:22.690

and it's got Floyd Cochran. He was such a sissy. He had like three sisters and they became he was just a nice Always take a point.

00:26:22.690 - 00:26:29.540

He stuttered on top of everything else. And they just picked on. He picked on and picked on him. And I used to fight all these little battles

00:26:29.540 - 00:26:35.480

and when you open it up, I didn't want it at all. Well, then we went to church together and style.

00:26:35.480 - 00:26:45.350

Okay. Now, So it was there, one of the great class and that's cool. Yes. So it was a bigger school only in that there were more snore

00:26:45.350 - 00:26:57.180

sophist saying, Great, Yeah, I think that how cousins that are N, I like third, fourth grade that I didn't even know.

00:26:57.180 - 00:27:12.140

Because we've never I never knew that until I went there and I knew their parents. Okay. But I didn't know we were related. You know, you just knew

00:27:12.140 - 00:27:20.360

like yesterday machine. You just knew Nancy said like your dad worked with my dad. And but it's weird because I

00:27:20.360 - 00:27:29.700

was wrongly before I knew that my one. Oh, my God, who? I lived at our house a lot. We always went out there.

00:27:29.700 - 00:27:38.120

It was their grandma. I I just I never because independent oversight. I never went to

00:27:38.120 - 00:27:45.080

their house. I was in fifth one. I got on with great that summer. And I remember walking down at her house was like You got to come

00:27:45.080 - 00:27:53.990

over and ripped out to me and stuff little. Did they know that they won't really know until later, like we weren't school, you know,

00:27:53.990 - 00:28:01.460

you go home and they went home so that children or the children did it now, but it's new. But see, the parents would get to

00:28:01.460 - 00:28:11.530

gather sometimes with each other. Normally did a Hi Family Day, which you're talking to. So many people write about.

00:28:11.530 - 00:28:20.740

You just knew because my family and friends and I didn't know they were too late. I knew they require mother that require model for this like us.

00:28:20.740 - 00:28:30.050

But when I went to a house that was just a pattern right there around that you went to visit them. And they may have came

00:28:30.050 - 00:29:04.480

over later or something. Amazing that this table three sideline, This is tape three psi 2. And that would be really interesting.

00:29:04.480 - 00:29:13.030

It's kind of like I could see this project make that, making the next step is to try to find out how did these families,

00:29:13.030 - 00:29:22.540

these families that are related, how did they choose here? What way back when the first Black came here, Underground Railroad started.

00:29:22.540 - 00:29:32.180

I'm getting my uncle Bill. He knows, but that's not my mom sign. And you might be able to find out from records when people first,

00:29:32.180 - 00:29:43.920

It's going to be that kind of thing. Marriages, births tomorrow, a back haul my property because his mother-in-law was into and geology.

00:29:43.920 - 00:29:52.490

On our side of town leasing shape got back so far, then couldn't go anymore and they were asking me questions and

00:29:52.490 - 00:30:01.100

I totally fell backwards. I know it's tough. It's tough for people to say to keep workers. A lot of them didn't, right?

00:30:01.100 - 00:30:06.720

And not everybody had that family bible. Now, you know that they always say when you go to the family bible and I know

00:30:06.720 - 00:30:11.430

my mother was her grandmother was religious. You've got that. I don't want to do that. Now.

00:30:11.430 - 00:30:20.070

That's why I took my mom. I want that. But love, I gotta get it. Yeah.

00:30:20.070 - 00:30:26.720

Did you feel like going to the school, you know, that the decision to have this desegregation and going

00:30:26.720 - 00:30:35.580

to leaving schools like iron felt, do you think it improved their education? Yes, I do. I think it did.

00:30:35.580 - 00:30:46.340

For one thing, just being with other kids with another whole mixture of kids. I think everybody needed

00:30:46.340 - 00:30:57.510

that way all your life if you're with one race, you know. And like we like nail my grandsons mothers way.

00:30:57.510 - 00:31:05.720

You now, when I look like I think back oh my god, my dad was shot me him to fight ever bought a white guy to the house.

00:31:05.720 - 00:31:13.670

You know, you lessen the lab. They don't want you to think, period, let alone if somebody I erase and neon like my dad says,

00:31:13.670 - 00:31:24.260

there's a whole Heinz 57 because I love his kids were black and one credit child. My brother's child, Sway as monthly.

00:31:24.260 - 00:31:36.080

Let's hit our great grand kids to make him African. Their Spanish, she's told. And I think that's more So why?

00:31:36.080 - 00:31:43.190

Because you get going to school with the different races and stuff like that. Instead of just show great.

00:31:43.190 - 00:31:50.690

And you had a lot of people in my family that went with family in some uncles mad at each other and having kids

00:31:50.690 - 00:31:59.160

and they want to live in a world. That's what's wrong with your kids because their blood is too close. Yeah.

00:31:59.160 - 00:32:06.380

I see it. Spot it. We wondered about that, but it's just such a delicate question. Honestly, I spoke to my

00:32:06.380 - 00:32:13.010

son all the time and he says on to to have a go with any of your classes one now. Well, I had to my older sister

00:32:13.010 - 00:32:20.270

Mary professing, and then my other sister had a baby Barak associate American, but then she turned around and not

00:32:20.270 - 00:32:30.410

allowed to marry his cousin. A multi-functional might pull it up. And I like when I said something before, it's only for yielding to shut

00:32:30.410 - 00:32:40.390

up with an anabolism. I don't do that in my neither side of the pelvis up anything of it.

00:32:40.390 - 00:32:47.120

But the other kids are starting to question it. I fulfill Mary like my answer. I like our cousins and the other page

00:32:47.120 - 00:32:57.020

what mom and dad are repeated. And they want to buy the kids turn out the way the women, I think. I doubt it.

00:32:57.020 - 00:33:08.640

I mean, this whole area. They didn't. Did you do that? It's Mughals, my channel.

00:33:08.640 - 00:33:18.650

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess yeah. I guess if you're if you're if you're

00:33:18.650 - 00:33:28.130

a community and you just kind of stay, we can see that that didn't and that's my whole thing is because they weren't just quo of an MC.

00:33:28.130 - 00:33:34.490

A groundwork was she says, Oh, well, they worked, they were right there. They didn't go anywhere else. That's why might they

00:33:34.490 - 00:33:44.690

went to school with people? I know some of them went with people. I met a town and out in and, you know, they've got over it just

00:33:44.690 - 00:33:53.060

like they didn't have vehicles, but they don't have vehicles and stuff and new people, you know, they will go to well, we tend

00:33:53.060 - 00:34:05.870

they're going to Chester and party and they went all these places. So how come you entered on which a family? That's interesting, That's a whole,

00:34:05.870 - 00:34:20.550

another field of study. So yes, it's something, this is something interesting. Actor going to iron know,

00:34:20.550 - 00:34:28.220

you went to that, then you went to behave. Okay. And that public value went to Christiana.

00:34:28.220 - 00:34:39.470

Christiana. Okay. Just all along the way. What was that experience like for you? I guess I should ask,

00:34:39.470 - 00:34:48.110

did the benefits of God to those different schools continue to be incredibly think so. I think they did.

00:34:48.110 - 00:34:58.370

And then I, especially when I apply for Dell, HP hassle because we've now that about it. Well, I applied it was still protect whatever building del castle

00:34:58.370 - 00:35:07.580

we were it would be finished, go in there and it was a big thing because my sister did want me to go because she wanted to go to my dad's.

00:35:07.580 - 00:35:16.250

Now, they've had transportation. And then when I come up to your liver, fat and they got to transportation is great. Newer Scotland,

00:35:16.250 - 00:35:25.250

hey, don't want the whole thing, the Wellington thing in all this that I want. I went there, I was like, Oh my God, I wasn't wild.

00:35:25.250 - 00:35:34.770

Wild because it was a bigger scope like it was a bigger school. And now I actually when I was 16, I move that moves with my sister.

00:35:34.770 - 00:35:40.860

It's the best income to 1140. Integral. Mother used to my dad to drop this off into her house.

00:35:40.860 - 00:35:49.650

She would take us coaches bridge and we caught the bus. They are then we walk from countries bridge, a great deal to my grandparents down there,

00:35:49.650 - 00:35:57.530

told my dad I got off on one like that and then he taught us how to sew. My sister lived in New York and she's like, Yeah,

00:35:57.530 - 00:36:10.380

the bus the Dell customer comes to new arcs and you could stay with me and stains. It was like drugs at the WHO was like three.

00:36:10.380 - 00:36:18.930

I smoked cigarettes, smoking court is going to go my guy outside edge with smoking in different kids,

00:36:18.930 - 00:36:27.990

getting taken a bus. I never taken a bus, you know, the city bus, DA, DA, going everywhere.

00:36:28.120 - 00:36:36.320

Mallarme said some to do somebody a couple weeks ago about how she always knew what I was doing and all this.

00:36:36.320 - 00:36:44.960

And I'm like, Mom, if you don't have the stuff that I did have a good day. One thing I didn't live at home. And I had cousins that to fill

00:36:44.960 - 00:36:56.610

the bars since we they would never let me talk to guys particularly enjoy yellow and this was, I was allowed to do this type of MIT.

00:36:56.610 - 00:37:03.470

They are now this is GLP. Get away from. I remember one time I went outside the cytokine and it hasn't come

00:37:03.470 - 00:37:11.990

out slightly around and she's like, I kick you out here again. How did that how did the people I wanted to say to you compared

00:37:11.990 - 00:37:21.640

to what was that change light? That was some of them are the same. It seemed but then you had some that they used to say,

00:37:21.640 - 00:37:33.410

we thought we were better. Here they come because especially with a lot of it lacks some of the girls like I was just with the clothes

00:37:33.410 - 00:37:41.410

and a lot of them went like the hairdresser since that, but we had a lot of cases, you know, the pairs are still coordinated.

00:37:41.410 - 00:37:51.230

Went to a hair dresser. So my but my camera's always die. It just with because a lot of the clothes and stuff, where'd you get that?

00:37:51.230 - 00:38:00.990

A lot of them graduate school way stole them just about anything. And it was like, oh my gosh, I have this kind of money now.

00:38:00.990 - 00:38:11.960

And it was like it was amazing. It was you kids there that I think your parents did actually have done that then this is brown.

00:38:11.960 - 00:38:19.160

Now you're talking about great. Started we've hardly at Brown for Mike September, just a cup and they were finishing off.

00:38:19.160 - 00:38:25.760

So I can have interactions with Linkedin? Yes. You could walk from Dell castle to

00:38:25.760 - 00:38:32.570

price this corner and catch up on us and own it and willing to take that and okay. And so what year was this?

00:38:32.570 - 00:38:47.780

That was when I went on a lot of our homes and stuff and you went in there and that's where I really see my alcohol. But the trunks,

00:38:47.780 - 00:39:02.450

the bottom to the food fills cleanup. But the ones that they have, I mean, they hadn't really nice places. Because say you saw a saddle,

00:39:02.450 - 00:39:10.690

he has to live in a suburb. So we weren't rich. It's like no. Look like because I

00:39:10.690 - 00:39:17.500

don't remember too many of them light coming from like developments and stuff like that was me inner city,

00:39:17.500 - 00:39:38.680

a city that's all that really bothered to pay points. So a general use fee for the most part. I'm remembering what you said correctly.

00:39:38.680 - 00:39:53.180

He felt like for you the change was good. Just how new learning? I went into nursing definition, but I'll just be able to do that.

00:39:53.180 - 00:40:04.230

You're going in the hospital on working and meeting different people there and the whole thing was just to scrape. Should've stayed in.

00:40:04.230 - 00:40:19.790

I want an X-ray to fMRI, meaningless sex, drugs and rock and roll. Like that. I just was like if you Carlo,

00:40:19.790 - 00:40:26.330

we're going here or there, I was like I'll get up in the morning. And like I have I sometimes mighty her and I stay with

00:40:26.330 - 00:40:33.400

my sister and she let me go up. She was married to kids. It's like you're not taking a baby because you can go.

00:40:33.400 - 00:40:38.930

She's like Do what you want, just don't bring to class two miles. And I wasn't like loud, loud run around with all these

00:40:38.930 - 00:40:45.650

men and that kinda chunk. But like I went out and I party but my cousins and no, and I get up in the morning and, you know,

00:40:45.650 - 00:40:54.560

I got a physiology class. I know nothing about 10 minutes. Yeah. Oh yeah. The top something.

00:40:54.560 - 00:41:06.020

Oh, I failed anatomy and physiology, film critique, and pharmacology. Okay. I I could've went out of my second year,

00:41:06.020 - 00:41:11.560

but I had to finish my first we take first second your classes and that's my way. Okay.

00:41:11.560 - 00:41:20.300

Then I went to university. I got a job as a custodian, hit my classes for free by battering there. It's very set out

00:41:20.300 - 00:41:26.420

two years on the matter here locally for your later. I'm still I'm a spot to take, right? Make more money, but it's

00:41:26.420 - 00:41:36.350

still possible to change if I change the filters and I work out of HVAC heating, ventilation. So its oligomer Americanness to Doris Day.

00:41:36.350 - 00:41:49.050

Okay. People just like us that any full yes. But a tiny bit of 12 before I get on one area is type 1 not alone. Maybe now you're talking thousands of voters.

00:41:49.900 - 00:42:00.590

And, um, I both photodiode going into HVAC, had a year that I had a medical problems and you don't allow them is like six

00:42:00.590 - 00:42:06.170

classes are kicked out. Yeah. I was going to be in hospital, whoever we can isolate y,

00:42:06.170 - 00:42:16.590

so we'll just stop and just never way. I worked two jobs for 20 years. I just summer for laughs. I had an accident.

00:42:17.230 - 00:42:27.440

I slipped dovish drink of water and clean or I will fire. Vowel, the letter were spread out. I'm, I'm going to close it down like this.

00:42:27.440 - 00:42:33.020

Press for my Buckley. They think this is what may have happened to my demo. Yeah, I did where I

00:42:33.020 - 00:42:42.410

didn't know because everything Crozier like 14 days and then c-hat bottles, they haven't paid on their bill. This is the universe.

00:42:42.410 - 00:42:49.710

Now this is where I was caught up here, four jacks. So, you know where fences scoring guides his assets.

00:42:49.710 - 00:43:01.430

What genre? Worked with? Coke, worked in restaurants. I got a low Sudan just trying to

00:43:01.430 - 00:43:08.400

get my bills paid, takes the lawsuit. It's really gets through Cross and Blue Shield because they should have paid my bills.

00:43:08.530 - 00:43:18.950

Because they said no matter where you have an accident uncovered through the university. I have now. And that message,

00:43:18.950 - 00:43:27.170

if it is, it's, it's ridiculous. It's gist of it is we take us that is how he took me almost eight months before

00:43:27.170 - 00:43:34.450

panel more Yoda would take the case because people can have workman's comp. You're not required to SAP data

00:43:34.450 - 00:43:49.280

so much an escrow. And then I finally got somebody who launched. Let me ask you this question deal. At the time you lose,

00:43:49.280 - 00:44:02.060

if segregation had remained. And you had the same teaching situation. Teachers. And you were to go through 12th grade,

00:44:02.060 - 00:44:13.550

you think the quality of the education that you're getting would be the same. Does that make sense If you get continued?

00:44:13.550 - 00:44:25.460

This I think it could have if they have the same resources. You know what I mean? If they had that on the same level, then yes,

00:44:25.460 - 00:44:35.600

it would have the only thing that I think we would have changed a lot would've been like where we live. You know, I can remember

00:44:35.600 - 00:44:44.560

when you're in an article in certain places because you would like likes Wonder loud, like Glasgow alarms. I never went in there.

00:44:44.560 - 00:44:53.530

Like I remember like things like that certainly aren't even now. I'll cut on a line. They bought a house in New York somewhere.

00:44:53.530 - 00:45:05.510

And they get from across online. And this is like 10 years ago even. But then my son got a Heisenberg side. I live with him now.

00:45:05.510 - 00:45:15.830

I know the divers are fragmented and stuff, but I remember another lady when she first bought a house and cook side, they used the things that she

00:45:15.830 - 00:45:23.320

went with him to eight because Brooks side was basically the very next section, this all at once.

00:45:23.320 - 00:45:31.760

And then when you try to throw blacks in there and work site and just help though if we come down my wisdom that I think that has a lot.

00:45:31.760 - 00:45:40.030

Even not like I said, with an edge case, I think if you have the same resources, yes. But with

00:45:40.030 - 00:45:47.240

other things because there's a lot of places that they wouldn't even let you consider going. That lesson opened up

00:45:47.240 - 00:45:53.360

if you went to a real tree, they never show to a nice look. But even if you could afford it, That's the whole thing with that.

00:45:53.360 - 00:46:03.140

But I don't think I can imagine to say that to you. I can say is that as far as the education, if you were given the same resources,

00:46:03.140 - 00:46:11.360

but probably down the road, you wouldn't offend because just when I think about some of the books we had back then when I went to

00:46:11.360 - 00:46:20.630

eat and we had rapidly books and stuff, you know, even nowadays, they have a problem with that. But I don't really think that

00:46:20.630 - 00:46:31.820

a problem given you had legislative assembly resources. So how do you feel about your experience? Who have this?

00:46:31.820 - 00:46:39.500

I think it's great. It said it's something that people don't think they will now nobody else will

00:46:39.500 - 00:46:45.630

ever have that. You don't like what I talk to them like when I tell my son and I've told me stories.

00:46:45.630 - 00:46:53.660

Like it's hard to imagine, like people I work with and you know, what a guy says something about is, I guess just overcome, hear something his

00:46:53.660 - 00:47:01.460

nephew or something, they will go out on tour. And I said, oh, you guys go to school there? And you always look at our good guys.

00:47:01.460 - 00:47:07.870

Yeah. Right. And I'm like It was a one-room school. And then mark say he started asking around and found that it's like,

00:47:07.870 - 00:47:14.960

oh my god, I guess it was I guess that's it. You're talking about back line. Weights and colors do not mix. You've got your weights,

00:47:14.960 - 00:47:20.060

goals, your college schools, and then a guy from now feels like yes, yes, They gave us, I guess what I want first, fourth.

00:47:20.060 - 00:47:26.420

Very good. We have our EPA. Yeah. Yeah. You know, for that reason it

00:47:26.420 - 00:47:35.780

always so wonderful when this changes because Lars got her as she had a lot. She have any people talk to

00:47:35.780 - 00:47:43.120

her because it's so many people that live here. Well, this she had she I think from the last heritage day,

00:47:43.120 - 00:47:49.580

he had a lot of people. Yeah. Because you've got wildly or she's curve people but not not

00:47:49.580 - 00:47:54.380

a lot of folks have gone with that as I saw the sign your back and I've seen about Harris's David didn't know,

00:47:54.380 - 00:48:02.260

think about and never remember the last. Yeah, that's what she's hoping to by talking to assay, we talk and I'll say,

00:48:02.260 - 00:48:09.230

Okay, yes, Yes, My cousin. Okay. And you were hoping that she's a first cousin and so that's okay.

00:48:09.230 - 00:48:21.170

Okay. My mother and my mother and her sisters and her husband curl. His mother, Miss Mary did UCP another house there where they live.

00:48:21.170 - 00:48:30.790

You live? He grew up in the house. Okay. And she almost next door. That's why it's really want. So this is what we're hoping

00:48:30.790 - 00:48:39.680

that as we actually get people to respond to her replies. And when you folks come in and you talk with us and you'll collapse.

00:48:39.680 - 00:48:49.170

Because that's the kind of stuff a lot going on there every time. So I'm not doing anything so because we would really appreciate

00:48:49.170 - 00:48:55.340

as many people as possible. I'm not sure where she's kind of cut off because what we're trying to do is now that we

00:48:55.340 - 00:49:01.430

see Hamilton spam and made, it would be nice to have it use no more than 12 or three people's button these

00:49:01.430 - 00:49:07.520

different ways and you get a different perspective yeah, as much as possible. There are a lot of things are

00:49:07.520 - 00:49:12.860

pretty much saying, yeah, you know, the experiences them. And then when you look at any of these other ones,

00:49:12.860 - 00:49:22.370

like Lewis says, and know the hardens and like we knew them, they lived right up the road from us but that work with my dad. Looked at me.

00:49:22.370 - 00:49:29.810

You did things together but still talking to them like, I can imagine, Don don't really know anything about

00:49:29.810 - 00:49:36.720

the other brother Richard. Placing Christiana. Richard should know and okay. Okay.

00:49:36.720 - 00:49:44.510

He's down strikes me as somebody who really industrious. He saved his money, very proud to know

00:49:44.510 - 00:49:59.070

yet accomplishments. Yeah. Yeah. I'm okay. Gail, thank you so very much for your time. This leg hurts so bad.