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So prevalent I think in the camera could use to say your name, your age, where you're from, what you're currently doing?

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Morning. Hi. My name's Georgina. You can from our no one's novels,

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My name is Dena from Costa Rica, which is located in Central America. Between you can build upon them, wow. 44 years old.

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So for the record, can you please state your name, age, and where you're from? Hi. My name is

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Georgina McKinnon from Costa Rica. And put America enema fully for you. Do you have any children? Yes, I have a beautiful daughter.

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February up, miracle. She's my soul. And how long have you lived with her daughter and her husband?

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Uh, no. I relocated from Brooklyn, New York. Hi. I was just a wife. I was for you the challenge

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in I have a miracle baby, which I'm very grateful for that apply my eyes. But what is your

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current employment where you work? How long have you been there? Yes, I will fit of women's job or center for the past four years.

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Purchases specialists or a buyer, which your procurement officer, which many people quite quickly, Finance Department and the

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Job Corps is an institution that being students who have who have challenges, social issues, emotional issues, and has been challenging school.

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Then they chose to go to the job before the footer. Theater education. And I love what I do.

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I love people's person ID with these students really have, they have a lot of behavioral problems in our aim as

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educators is to modify behavior. Hey, for these students to exemplify what we do as instructors. If for the students to have

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a sense of belief that you know, that you can accomplish this and have the ambition and the desire to do so.

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How did you end up with this job relocating from Brooklyn to Delaware, what you do for your undergraduate and graduate work?

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I came I actually came to the US 19 years ago when I came on a tourist visa and when it B6 fired and then a transition

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from a visa visa status to an a. And I challenged myself to go back to school. You can see, you know, one day I will be able to work like everybody else.

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So I use education as a substitute for motherhood. I said, Okay, I won't be able to be a mom. What I'm going to go as far as it can go.

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In my education I started would associate degree at MIT as college, which is from Qsys them. And then I got married

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and relocates to Delaware. So I my credits to Women's University files theory. That's the 2003.

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Then I continue my education and my master's degree in Organizational Leadership. Okay.

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What were your reasons and motivations behind here? Who thinks, Wow, this is a sensitive topic for me,

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but I experienced domestic violence in I had my husband was very, very abusive, alcoholic and he did not have now this yields

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an alcoholic and a it was painful or they say, I needed to regain my self-confidence was distraught

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because I was unable to conceive. And my husband looked at me like Adam Smith and a woman in I'm happily so I pack my bags. December 28, 990.

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You came home and it wasn't me. It has been 19 years and it's painful when I get back to my memories. But I succeeded so well, they don't come.

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Maybe fear at some point had to be my Kotlin, you man. You take my high as you want. It's very powerful.

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Was between a rock and a hard place. Because we've got a whole depended on me like my sisters, my dad, my niece,

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which my cousins, she got my mom raised my coffee. So I had my niece. She looked up at me as a mother and her She

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was she was nine years old and it was at shows and I had to do do I want to say here are the abuser who I want to start a new life and

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my children live in even though they succeeded home. My sister, She's a social worker, my nieces, an attorney,

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that I still have the guilt that I just left them behind and I was in the UK that when they needed me. Move on with my life and I have no regrets.

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But sometimes I cry. I'm sorry, active versus your story. Sophia's thought. But looking back, I don't have

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any regrets because if I had been living in Costa Rica now, I'm Navajo teeth without the baby bear. But I will not have a mother.

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Because you don't live in a country that is that you will be able to find it in my mouth and nothing to

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say and won't just be live in my life be modernists, will transition from Costa Rica to the US and going

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through all the different challenges and reach this point. To be Hawaii. Own a home educated fulfillment that I'll always be greater

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than women still because I gave myself the chance. No one told me. Gina, you gotta go to school at something within me.

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I needed to feed it, needed to be a better person. I needed to show my younger sister that. You can make it a try, right?

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Yeah. Example of that? Yes. He's such a family-oriented person.

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Can you talk a little about your family growing up and how much you stayed in contact with them. Now, I have moles here.

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Excellent. My mom was an educator, she was an elementary school teacher. My dad work with a labor education. My parents always instilled education.

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My mom got her college degree was the case. Classroom, PC. Well, but the school bachelor's degree. She worked for 20s maybe like

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20 years of my mom died at 46. She had breast cancer in her life was cut short. So on Monday Love, you know,

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because for me maybe my 0.1 woman, my class the way. So I didn't have that seamless. And my dad, he had a C.

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So I stillness in my pins even know my mom has been going for 21 years. It's avoid.

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You can feel my dad hadn't been gone for seven years. And sadness. By my brothers. I have one brother who lives in Canada.

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My oldest since issues and monuments is in Costa Rica. You didn't know where disperse was too close. We still communicate with each other.

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If anyone need a new one for some reason. Do you think that your family was typical in terms of like education, things like that? Like like our typical

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in regards to how I think when you're highly educated and Costa Rica, don't know. Costa Rica has

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the highest literacy rates in Latin America. Females, literacy rate is 7% and for males 95 percent, basically everyone.

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Now, so you've read and write. Some girls are encouraged to get ahead and hold jobs and money with no hope.

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You thought, you know, we have a lot of engineers, engineers, doctors, we have teachers. The incline for education.

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It doesn't matter what it is to feel. We're educating do what do you feel, how that some of your greatest challenges and accomplishments within

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your education and your career. Well, my greatest challenge going back to school is that I had to pay my way to school

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because our than legal thought economists documented day. And I've worked menial jobs, minimum wage. But I had a drive to educate myself,

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so I work full time making minimum wage. And I went to school full time. So I went to school full-time in the evenings,

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work in a day. I worked like 60 hours a week and we still incorporate school. And I made up my nation.

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And the reason I made it my mission is that one on my lawyer said to me once way to school, if you're going to end up

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working in the kitchen. It wasn't one of my employees I had and that was one of the drives that you bring

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the kit powder and my kid go to school, go to school, go to school. Because I felt that he made me he just made me feel like I was to say,

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Hey, I guess because he's Jewish, I'm black. So he said, Oh, she's not making. And use that as a motivation for me to see and reach the well-known today.

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And see the wonderful, wonderful for how much further do you want to get with your NDP? Hopefully PhD, PhD,

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and I think in management, I want to do on organizational behavior. But it's not a topic that is given in a, any university.

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So it's if the ether situation, I know that school offer that and they're offering PhDs. Women, the university, they call it a DBA,

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which is a doctrine known illustration, but that's not my emphasis. Or we might think organizational behavior. You can touch on it a little bit before him,

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he sided with their supervisor, kind of volatile you almost. Any other instance in jail? I briefly like your gender or your race and

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influence how people think aloud. Because of the way album, very assertive, positive. I take no for an answer.

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So many timekeeper times because I'm a woman, because I'm black. And some of his time. And being a black and Athena

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as did a very big challenge for me. Because as an Athena you not be in that expected me to speak Spanish and look this way.

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And then African Americans when they see me, look like then what she does is she speaks Spanish, then that's another challenge that I have.

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But because I'm a people, person, I'm able to cope with challenges both phrases. And I've just myself take the

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as I am. Essentially. How do you incorporate your cultural heritage and family physicians and tear theory?

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Like I've heard about food, I love my language and I know my music says, oh my goodness, I know South that more as they need us want

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to write is already in my language. My daughter is my view was the OT every day you speak Spanish everyday. She clearly in the sense

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that everything I say to her and my husband, he's eaten the food I cook for my culture, even though he's sort of time period.

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While the foundation that I kept from home that I keep

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my food, they the way I conduct myself or my husband, knowing that it's part of my culture, acute change.

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Boy, you can just change Julia. I even want to do my daughter her cereal. Why I'm doing this? Hello, my name is, that's

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what they do for babies. I will never change my culture, my, my beliefs on a goal and me with, until the end of my days

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the diet advising African American but your husband this so are there Complex or damages you have like your cultural traditions?

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Yeah. Well, yeah, I do not consider myself African American country. We are consider having

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meetings because our ancestors came from the Caribbean islands. My great grandparents came from Jamaica and they came to Costa Rica and

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early 19 hundreds to build the railroad. So I'm a third generation born from immigrants from the Caribbean. So english has been a part of my culture,

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but it's in broken English is not English. Have a full if it's just broken English. And I had to educate myself in Costa Rica, I was finding was that the theory.

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So I went to school to actually learn to read and write proper English. Wouldn't husband booth, African American, I guess being different, conflicts,

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misunderstandings because as you know, coming from a close-knit family and I'm not trying to disrespect any valuable way

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and not that close. There's no closure. I would say a lot in NP weren't crazy people. You know, there's a phrase that

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says, don't know, commingles. And these are Plato fulfill one person, 23 or four people can't be, you don't need everybody to get together.

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It doesn't matter what It's somehow. And I see that African-Americans, it was not displayed that that's my perception.

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I don't want to offend anybody, but that's my perception. A successful businesswoman mother, what would you say are some

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of the greatest lessons you want to teach your daughter and people that you interact with. For my Gabby, what I want

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her to be is to be yourself, to be assertive, to take no for an answer, and to challenge herself. And most important that

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I want to teach my daughter education. Education is that something that's going to make you rich? Financially was going to make

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you rich in knowledge, is going to make you rich. A confidence is going to make you rich. In abundance. You going to

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relate to different people because he has to do with culture is going to have my heritage as well as that is heritage. But I wanted her to be herself.

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Always make her own choices. He said he wanted a PhD. Anything else you see yourself doing in the next ten years here?

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To help out of the San, people who goes in another language to speak properly with it all to life.

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And sometimes there's so many girlfriends there, but they are afraid because they may be undocumented.

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And they afraid or they don't know what's going on because they're not involved with what's going on in the American culture because there's

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so much fault within our culture to read is funny. Papers. Then watch the video. The Spanish feathered edges.

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So how did life, what do to help them? To be able to do? We need to buy, to be able to see what shows that they

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have to go to school or to do whatever. He had to describe yourself. Unhappy one sentence, but if you distract yourself, what would you say?

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You know what? I asked my friend this question last night, I call finding new York with my best friend. Practical this as a copy.

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How would you describe me once and she said you will have. Self-confidence, which is through Iowa. I think no for an answer.

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Very, very, very lonely. And I know that there is always to the Canvas live for today. Live for today didn't

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miss out of so many chances that you may have. I know that if I live for today, I wouldn't have gotten to where I'm at today.

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I said Okay, Then he goes full. Parallel associated wasn't quite enough money to get. My bachelor's degree was not quite enough.

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And this gave me the desire to educate myself some more, which they said in a cookie. If I should have my PhD

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and hopefully open a business, I can tell people in my in my culture. You mentioned two best friend here in Delaware.

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What's your network of friends like? My friend. Her name is Emily Theodora. She works at a job for it. She's the one who actually got me the job

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for me because I was working at Macy's as King. What is that? That work in Latin America

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from the center guy here. And I lead every day and then she got a job with variables. We're very close friends in I have

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friends from Puerto Rico. I have is I have African Americans, I have friends from Haiti. I have friends from all over

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the world because I'm a people, person. I love people. I love to eat throughout the feed them a very good listener.

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And I do have a lot of adaptations. And that's why I put this on my question. But is there anything that you want us in

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our young people know about your culture, about that we didn't touch on. No. I thought maybe I would like to focus this flourishing

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for woman who has been in an abusive relationship. Or we will have situations like now. There's always a way out, you know, this.

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Always oh yeah. You just have to believe in yourself and you just that are just crazy stuff instead. Okay.

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I've had a go. Don't say instead or fullness and he loves me because he has someone loves you. Deal with men streaky.

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So make sure you give yourself time to do that. And if anybody want to call me and talk to me,

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ask me to know how you did it, you know how how did you heal? You can always go to some questions here. But what do you think is

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most influential social or political events that happen in our country and in the past decade or so. Wow.

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One of the topics that you feel, I don't want your wine rack. That's one of the events that it's sad to say that he went to

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war basically for maybe a year. And it has been 17 years now. Yeah, roughly roughly seven years. And we have so many soldiers

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who come at home this member or they lost their lives and there's no cause for this war in the historical event is happening.

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Ok, Obama as President of the United States, you see an African American history. Is that something that's remarkable and it's something that I

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want to show my daughter that you can be whatever you want to be non-obvious that mind to it and dispersive it.

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That's all the questions I have for the lessons that I think would be okay. Like we said, this is I, I is nothing that I'm sad.

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I felt with my life. If I had to do it all over again, I would not change and part of it because if I made a change,

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anything regarding would not be here. Not because I've run it on my husband. My husband. He wanted to because I wasn't able to

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conceive and he had no kids. Like the way you yeah. Yeah. But I wouldn't buy it because the 2005 I saw

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him and he asked me to forgive and forget. Again, just for yourself. So yes. I haven't got to that point yet.

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There anything else that you want to tell people? We've got lots to say. This is the way to make it.

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I remember I bought being pregnant. I work full time and it will part with high risk. And I wanted to buy my home.

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And I have worked very hard in latest sacrifice made for my daughter. It was hard. I was at for 42.

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Oh, yes. So what you want in life, you can do it. I when I went to university, I work full-time and part-time and full-time.

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So anything that you want to accomplish and not just at a city priorities. And if you have everything alone, they didn't make it.

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You know, there's no excuses for anything. No excuses, so on. As they say, life is the way you make it. And he just said

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that a lot of fun, I have a lot of fun. Nvda that always not the same as living in New York. New York is to see that women are negative,

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then that will turn off not in New York. I I had with my girlfriends but void. So to put that matters, so most probably say,

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I remember going through this club one day and it will shift down one at a young age. I was like, what was having so much fun?

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Oh my God, my my my brother, not what she's Puerto Rican. We want to leave. I will just go.

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That's the time to get into spicy. Be if I didn't, I, I I like my culture I lived for am I have had many Chinese people.

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Like you died on the continent diabetes. It's the way everybody and it's often do have an answer no matter where you fall.

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In time. They said, Well, they didn't speak. From Costa Rica. I see people what you

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see when you watch the Spanish television. You don't see it. Sometimes. Depends. The VC, they didn't know it.

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But I feel you would see fuel from Columbia. But racism. Racism is nothing will change. Can I ask a question?

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That's okay. You both mentioned to me that when you go in, this is what it is. Well, I forgot to

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narrow down what I want to do because I have like a lot of different interests against psychology and Women's Studies here at

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nasa, had a minor in Business. I have all these things that Ray, he had some kind of diverse of that but I don't know.

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I'm, I'm a very simple version is valid. Like to interact people and talk. People like to sit and keep us all day long and

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got a desk job has nothing I can do yourself. I'm kind of looking for something that will allow me to, I don't know, help.

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I want to help people as they come in if we wanted to do something, I considered social work and Instagram Explorer's anthologies

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of your therapist, but the hope is 100% positive, but okay, we're back on. What I don't want.

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You don't want to work for a year. Gained some experience in my field, apply the things that I've learned, learned somewhere.

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And then I definitely want to get a master's degree and a master's in public administration, master's in social work, masters.

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And when we study, not really. I know that I love people, I love my community. I'm interested in women's issues

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like sexuality and gender issues. And I want, well, I want to further my education. Make sure you're diversifying.

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So make sure you didn't have to be master of philosophers, these masters and PhD. But I'm going to mention to you,

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but what I wanted, I always wanted to have an MBA. I did my MBA. The final concentration in hopefully

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I'm doing my PhD, but I just can't keep seeing when it comes to school. Right now. I told I

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told you I started doing online course. We don't Delta for writing effective grant proposal. They can kiss.

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I feel are the official water or something. Yeah. I know. My my strength is numbers. This is, I love to draw.

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Trigonometry, can tap it off a finite math. That was my tutor, my classmates. Wow, yes. And when it comes to writing,

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that off my my weakness, but it's not something that I like. Yes. So that's a reside focus in finance and forth. Fine.

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But I would say for PhD, organizational behavior because I like to do people be your behaviors, what actually makes who you are.

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So I just want to help people in modifying environments. Case. Hi, guys. I don't know.

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I guess I don't have that. I haven't forgive myself for me to sit and talk to you. I don't want to just pick up themselves and

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just I just hope one day so close. Help either one is to get rid of the situation. Yeah. Yeah.

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I know. And appreciate that. We appreciate you guys. Now because you guys did not working,

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you guys and I use that I get I actually gave you the rejection. They use MapQuest. Map was always seeing it.

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Actually gave you at the same directions. He did that. And just to see if they did, I guess I didn't read it,

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so I appreciate it and I hope I still worried or would actually help you guys in Ukraine and mentally health agreement actually

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touch other people's heart. You know, and, and just hope that all education is done in Ukraine and you know,

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whatever you tell me today, I hope to see you five years from now we know I remember her for her autograph. So I appreciate you

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taking your time and talk to me. I'm sorry that emotional needs of War II, I wanted a picture of my daughter when she was asleep,

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that I made a mess of tissues in which am I doing your editing process that follow-up questions on this or that font that you want to call me.

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I'm just saying the questions. Will my girlfriend I call her and is like, as a team was felt up what I think I spoke with opposite help.

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I was supposed to be really soft and you don't see. But my friend thought for some very positive and

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optimistic, I'm very assertive. That might be okay. Bye. Thank you again.

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