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[General audience sounds, unintelligible conversations] Female Voice: Ok. [Silence] [Applause] Delaware Speaker of the House Charles Hebner: Mr. Free

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State Representative Kevin Free: Mr. Speaker, Mr. President Pro Tempore and Mr. Lieutenant Governor we present the Governor of the State of Delaware his excellently-- excellency [Loud bang] Pierre S. du Pont.

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Charles Hebner: Welcome to the chambers [Applause begins] sir. [Applause] [Applause ends] [Sounds of movement and the crowd conversing] Kevin Free: Ladies and Gentleman, Pierre S. du Pont the fourth, his excellency, the Governor of the State of Delaware.

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[Silence] Governor Pierre "Pete" S. du Pont: Governor-Elect Castle, Lieutenant Governor-Elect Woo, Mr. Speaker, Mr. President Pro Tempore,

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members of the Judiciary and the Cabinet, members of the one hundred and thirty third General Assembly, Governor Boggs, Elise, mother and daddy. [Audience quietly laughs] All the people of the first state

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of the United States of America. It was just sixteen years ago this week that I stood in the well of this chamber swearing my constitutional

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oath as a new representative in a one hundred and twenty fifth General Assembly. This evening, I return here for the last time to thank all of you,

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staff, members of the Cabinet, members of the General Assembly, and most of all the people of Delaware, for your faith and

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your support and your help as we've made the decisions and the choices that have led Delaware back to prosperity.

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I thank you for together, we have made a difference. Eight years ago as members of the General Assembly,

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were preparing to take that same constitutional oath of office and as I was preparing to take office as Governor,

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I was contemplating the opportunities and the challenges and the awesome responsibilities that each of us in this hall would face as we

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attempted to rescue a ship of state, that was drifting towards disaster. I believe then that Delaware's governmental

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problems could be solved. That we could have a government that lived within its means. That we could have a government capable

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not simply of fulfilling its legal responsibilities, but of improving the quality of life for all Delawareans as well.

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That we could have a government that was respected by its people. I said it would take personal discipline from each of

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us and political discipline from all of us. As I began preparing my remarks for this evening, I thought back to those early days when

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the problems were before us demanding immediate solutions. But the solutions lay at the far end of a road that we had only just begun to travel.

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Now patience is a virtue, but back then I think we all wanted to make changes, lasting changes, and make them quickly.

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We wanted to be well on our way on the journey we were just beginning. In some ways that was possible.

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Executive order number 1, signed just a half an hour after I took my oath of office, immediately required financial disclosure

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for all cabinet officials and appointees. A simple signature on a document began a visible process of restoring people's trust in their government and its officials.

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A trust that had been so badly shaken in the nineteen seventies. In other ways, though, visible progress took much longer and

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it was certainly more difficult to accomplish. As you all recall, Delaware was in serious

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financial trouble in nineteen seventy seven, primarily as a result of a spending appetite that was threatening to devour

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everything in its path. Why some people even said the state was, well, [audience laughter begins] nearly bankrupt. [audience laughter ends] But we worked together to

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make the tough decisions. We froze the capital budget, reduced the operating budget, limited the growth of government,

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and perhaps most important of all, enacted constitutional spending restraints that made it virtually impossible to

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spend more money than was available. No government can spend its way to prosperity and enacting constitutional

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restraints was a critical step in restoring the integrity of our government. But government's not an end in itself,

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it's a means. Restoring integrity to government, restoring discipline in government and restraining government were a part

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of a process of improving the means. The end was and still remains to provide our citizens with a chance to prosper and to grow and to excel.

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We reduced Delaware's high personal income tax rates which were stifling economic growth and were simply

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an unfair burden for the working men and women of our state. We passed legislation like the Financial Center Development Act,

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like the Blue Collar Jobs Bill, both of which, which brought jobs and opportunity to our people. We began to rebuild

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Delaware's economic base. Well after 8 years I think we can all look back with pride on what's been accomplished.

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In nineteen seventy seven, a year of deep concern for Delaware government, we made a covenant with our people. We said Delaware should have

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an honest and ethical government and we've taken steps towards that end. We said Delaware government should live within its means and balance its budget and

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we've accomplished that goal. We said Delaware's economic base should be rebuilt to provide our people with

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the opportunity to grow to their fullest potential. And we've responded by helping to provide greater employment opportunity

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then almost any other state in this nation. Together, we have made the difficult decisions, cast the tough votes and held

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a steady course. Without support in the General Assembly, without the leadership of Richard Cordrey and Andy Knox of

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Lonnie George and Chuck Hebner and John Burris and many others, it would not have come to pass. Delaware and our people are better off

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today than 8 years ago because our government has accomplished the most important task of any government; to create a climate of opportunity in which

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all its people may grow and excel and prosper. But of course, Delaware's progress in the last 8 years has been the result of

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actions by a great many more people than are gathered here in this hall this evening. Yes, we've provided some leadership

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and made some fundamental decisions that were helpful in clearing the way for progress. But while government alone can prevent opportunity,

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government alone cannot create opportunity. Delaware's blessed with a community--community leadership that kept its part of that same covenant,

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creating a partnership with government to enhance that climate of opportunity. Just think back to the major pieces of legislation

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that helped clear the way for Delaware's progress. Most could not have been enacted and our success would not have been

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possible without the active participation and commitment of our community leaders. Some might suggest that 8 years ago, Delaware stood at a crossroads

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and that we, in the words of Robert Frost's poem, took the road less traveled by. But I would suggest that the course we have

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followed was one of our own making. That the choice we made was to follow a road no other states had traveled before us.

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But then, in the first state, we have a tradition of not waiting to see what others will do, but making our own decisions

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and charting our own course. In a sense, America has recently faced the same choice that we faced in nineteen seventy seven. We have seen a federal budget that's

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been out of balance for nineteen out of the last twenty years. A budget that the Congress of the United States has

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neither the political will nor the personal discipline to control. We have seen America's powerful economic engine

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mired in regulations and a taxation policy that has stifled growth and prevented expansion. We have seen our competitiveness

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eroded abroad as a result of poor management of the national economy at home. Well, perhaps the federal government ought to

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take a lesson from Delaware and our sister states. These 50 laboratories of democracy which created

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the federal government to start with. And that lesson is that strong and conservative financial management is a prerequisite to good government.

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If it is our goal to provide every American with a chance to make tomorrow better than today, and that must be the goal of government,

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then this free nation with its heritage of opportunity for all, must learn to make the same hard decisions and learn

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the same discipline that we have shown here in Delaware and other states have shown as well. For the nation

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and for every one of the 50 states, the challenge is identical; to create a climate of opportunity and then to transform

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that opportunity through education and economic growth into increased prosperity for all. To transform opportunity

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into prosperity requires both sound education programs and conservative economic policies. Education is the springboard

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to the future for every one of us. Our educational system must demand performance and teach the art of

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critical thinking. For the challenge each of us faces as an individual is to learn to make sound judgments on difficult issues,

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to reason through the facts, to disregard the fictions, to consider the alternative choices and reach a sound judgment among them.

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In other words, to develop the capacity for critical thought. To reach that goal, we must set our academic standards

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to challenge rather than accommodate, to instruct rather than entertain, to instill in every American--every American

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the skills necessary to survive and the intellectual curiosity necessary not just to survive, but to grow and contribute.

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In the past 4 years we've begun an educational renewal in Delaware focused on those goals. And it's the responsibility of

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our new leadership to continue that progress. In economic policy Delaware faces an even more difficult task. A challenge equal to the challenge of

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adversity that we faced in nineteen seventy seven and nineteen seventy eight. That is the challenge of prosperity. Oh, prosperity's welcome of course, we've been

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striving for it for 8 years and I'm not one of those who Theodore Sorensen described as he viewed a meeting of President Kennedy's Council on Eco--of

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Economic Advisors in nineteen sixty two. "There they sat" he said, "gloomily contemplating the dangers of an upturn." But prosperity does not

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free us from the need for the same kind of discipline required by adversity. Instead, it requires greater discipline.

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Sometimes in the life of a government, there comes a moment when the pressure's off. The problems of the past seem resolved and with a sigh of relief

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government can look optimistically ahead, free of past concerns and constraints. It's a satisfying moment, but a dangerous one.

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For if at that moment the discipline that solved the earlier problems is lost, the seeds of future problems are quickly sewn. So it was in England, in nineteen forty six, when

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the nation through remarkable self-discipline had survived the 2nd World War. A euphoric electorate intent on immediate reward for

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the deprivations of the past abandoned the careful conservatism of Winston Churchill and embraced the free pes--free spending protectionist

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ways of the Labour Party. Well England paid the price. Twenty-five years later the per capita gross national product of England was less than that of Germany.

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No, not West Germany, East Germany. So it was in the United States, in the nineteen-sixties. Bored with 8 years of quiet,

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competent government and steady economic growth, the electorate opt--opted to get America moving again to create a great society,

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to expand domestic programs at home and military influence abroad. Guns and butter and the devil with the cost or consequence.

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Like England, America lost its discipline at a critical moment and paid its price. Twelve years of high inflation,

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low productivity, huge deficits and economic stagnation. The economic and social impact upon our people has been devastating.

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Seems to me that Delaware stands at a similar point in time today. 8 years of discipline, of prudence, of bipartisanship have

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brought us unusual prosperity. 8 consecutive surplus budgets, two tax cuts, two welfare increases, a doubling of per pupil expenditure on education,

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the greatest proportional employment growth of any state in America, and an unemployment rate several points below that

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of the nation as a whole. And now, with economic recession behind us and our local economy growing vigorously, we find ourselves faced with

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an unexpected result of prosperity; continuing and growing revenue surpluses. We already have about forty-five million dollars in our rainy day fund

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as a cushion against emergencies. But instead of an emergency, we are faced with the prospect of such rapid revenue growth

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that we may have as much as ninety million dollars free and clear to spend or restrain from spending however we choose. And so I wonder;

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will Delaware be able to meet the challenge of prosperity? During past years, we have demonstrated that we could

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govern our appetites during difficult times. Can we do so in good times? We have proven ourselves in adversity and now we must do so in prosperity.

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And of course, to all of you in this room, the temptation to try to win the approval of interest groups by every--of every kind, by spending our good

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fortune will be enormous. Spend on human services and corrections, they will tell us, on health and welfare, on teachers and transportation,

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but if we yield to those pressures and temptations and if we spend it all, we could quickly return to the problems and crises of earlier time.

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To avoid mortgaging our future in this way will require spending less than we have available to us, not much more,

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in fact, than real growth in our economy. And that is a difficult task which will once again require personal discipline of each of

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us and political discipline from all of us. It is most important to our future that we successfully apply that discipline if Delaware's

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cont--to continue its progress. Well Governor-Elect Castle is no stranger to either of these central policy issues.

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He was the chairman of the taskforce on education for economic growth, which has prepared a blueprint for substantially

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strengthening our education system over the next 4 years. And he has participated in the economic decisions of

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this administration in the past 4 years. I know he will do well. If you give him the same support and counsel you have given me,

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Delaware will continue to excel. To Governor Castle, I say Godspeed. The challenge is fresh, the opportunities boundless, and

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a talented people stand ready for your leadership in keeping Delaware the first state of the United States of America.

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Well now my constitutional moment as Delaware's chief executive has passed. Next Tuesday, I join Elbert Carvel and Caleb Boggs as one of

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only 3 people who can never serve as Del--as Governor of our state again. I leave with deep appreciation of your support,

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valuing your counsel, and having enjoyed, no loved the opportunity that you have given me. For me it has

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very simply been the best of times. It was my honor to have served you. [Applause]

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Elise and I stood at the window in Woodburn earlier today watching the snowfall gently on that magnificent tulip poplar tree

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which was perhaps a sprout two-hundred years ago when our nation began just a few blocks from where we stood.

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We recalled some of the times and some of the places, the many images of Delaware we will take with us as we leave you. Woodland ferry,

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hot in the August sun. Cold beer, oysters, and sawdust in the Georgetown fire hall. A lighted Christmas tree afloat on

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Silver Lake reflecting its colors in the still December waters. All of us elected ficial--officials tug-of-warring

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the entire Delaware press corps into the Saint Jones Creek in 7.5 seconds [Applause begins] flat. [Applause] Caroling, in the halls of

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the Smyrna home and hospital and seeing the joy and memories light the faces of the elderly patients there. The crash of drums and brass as

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the University of Delaware marching band breaks into the fight song under the concrete stadium on an October Saturday. The flash of muskets and

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the smell of powder and the Union Jack moving across the meadow in the reenactment of the Battle of Cooch's Bridge where two hundred and eight years ago,

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fourteen brave Delaware lads gave their fullest measure to help America become the land of the free. But most of all, we remember people,

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thousands and thousands of you. Men and women, old people and young children, complete with pipes and shawls and ice cream cones and baseballs and glasses,

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hats, costumes, coats, diapers and canes. People who slapped our backs, pressed our hands and wished us encouragement and cheer,

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as we made our way through 8 years of your lives. We will one day forget the speeches, the press conferences,

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the podiums and the meetings, but we will carry with us always in our hearts your generous friendship. As I said, when we set out on our journey that

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frosty morning on the green 8 years ago, I pledged to you to do my best to strive for the highest quality of leadership and

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the highest standard of performance that it is possible to achieve. I cannot promise to do more, and I shall not do less.

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I have done in the past 8 years all I could to meet that standard. Robert Penn Warren wrote that we must go out into the convulsion of the world,

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out of history and into history and the awful responsibility of time. An awesome responsibility did await us in nineteen seventy seven.

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Together we seized it and shaped it and used it to go forward, to achieve a better time, to improve the quality of life

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for all our people. This evening we step out of history and into history, proud of our past, optimistic for our future, for together we have achieved our goals. Together we have made a difference.

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Godbless and farewell. [Applause] [Applause in background] Thank you. [Applause]

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[Applause in background] Male Voice: Thank you. Your excellency. [Applause] [Applause in background] Pierre S. du Pont: Thank you very, very much. [Applause]

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Charles Hebner: Governor, Governor I cannot really respond I think the ovation you have received is response enough. I can neither add to it or detract from it, nor would I d--nor would I try to do so. God keep you sir you have done one hell of a job for the state of Delaware.

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[Applause] Charles Hebner: Would the escort committee of legislators please come forth and escort the governor into his well well deserved retirement. Thank you Governor.

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Pierre S. du Pont: [Faintly, not through the mic] I didn't get retired yet [Crowd laughs] Charles Hebner: I stand corrected. [Sound of recording stopping]

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[Silence] [Sound of recording starting] [Conversations going on in background] Female Voice 1: Quick, why do you think that reporters and lobbyists should wear name tags? Female Voice 2: I think it would be a help to identify most people who are in Legislative Hall so our constituents can know who we're talking to.

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I've had people who needed to talk to me and I knew their name and their problem and I was looking for 'em and they saw me looking for some--talking to somebody else that I see on a regular basis and yet they hesitate to interrupt and it's opportunity lost you know, so they needed my help they didn't have it. Besides that there are a lot of people wh--who

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have great trouble in keeping track of which are lobbyists, you see them around you know, and you don't really know who they're working for, you don't really know who the news people are although you're introduced to them and it sorta, it would be nice to know. I'm an older legislator,

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a more senior member and I know the downstate/upstate newspapers and the downstate/upstate radio stations, but it is beneficial to know to whom you're speaking. It's beneficial for our staff and that's the reason why we feel this is necessary. [Sound of recording stopping]

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[Silence] [Sound of recording starting] Female Voice 1: Governor what's your first order of business? Governor-elect Mike Castle: Heh, well the first order of business

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really is to get through the inaugural process. We have set up quite a few hurdles in that in terms of different appearances and things that we'll be doing,

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but come Tuesday afternoon after that is over I intend to come into the--into the Governor's office and there are a few proclamations I want to get done, executive orders and a couple of things just to get things started.

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I have spent the last 8 weeks almost exclusively on personnel selection and that culminated in the selection of the cabinet yesterday. And that has been a major task. And when you actually select the cabinet,

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you only see the tip of the iceberg, but it does take an inordinate amount of time. And the rest of my time's been spent on the budget preparation and I'll be presenting the budget this year on October thirty-first. So we've put a lot of time into that too and I think that we'll be

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off to a good start by the time January's over. But people don't realize, for an incoming Governor at least when you're in the same party and you do this that you're in to all those things,

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you have the transition process, the budget process, an inaugural address, the state of the state message, a budget message, start up of legislation. So it's been about the busiest time

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I've ever seen. I thought the election was busy I'm not too sure this isn't more so, but I look forward to it, it's going well and I look forward to it. Female Voice 1: What proclamations and what executive orders?

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Mike Castle: Well we are still sorting through what we're going to do first. I think that whatever we do first will be somewhat symbolic.

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We have about 9 or 10 executive orders that we have to do fairly rapidly in the first couple months I'm in office to make sure some things continue and I haven't yet selected those things

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we'll start off with because I think that they will have some greater significance than the others, so that will remain a secret until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. Female Voice 1: Thank you! [Woman laughs] Mike Castle: You're more than welcome.

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[Sound of recording stopping] [Silence] [Sound of recording starting] Female Voice 1: Well tell me Governor, what are your plans?

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Governor Pierre S. du Pont: Well, on Tuesday morning, I think I'm gonna sleep late and then I'm gonna pick up the paper and read about all the trouble Mike Castle's

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gotten into on his first day as Governor. And that'll be nice. Then I'm gonna practice law and work in national politics a little bit and maybe you'll hear from me again.

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Female Voice 1: You keep saying work in national politics, what do you mean by that? Pierre du Pont: I mean by helping build the Republican Party in

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all 50 states across this country and of the majority party. You know, we win the presidency, we control the Senate but down at the courthouse level, the Democrats are the majority party in this country

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and I'd like to help change that. Female Voice 1: Is there any truth to the often heard rumor that you will be running for President? Pierre S. du Pont: Well, I've heard that rumor, but nothing can happen on that front for a couple of years anyhow

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so I think it's a little soon to talk about that. Female Voice 1: Would you be surprised to see a ticket between you and Joe Biden? Pierre S. du Pont: You'd get ten thousand to one from Jimmy the Greek against that.

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Female Voice 1: That's not what I asked. [Woman laughs] Pierre S. du Pont: That's the answer you got. Female Voice 1: Would it surprise you? Pierre S. du Pont: It would surprise me.

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Female Voice 1: Thank you sir. [Sound of recording stopping] [Silence] [Sound of recording starting]

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[Sound of car driving] [Sound of some instrument playing] [Two coughs] [Sound of someone clinking dishes and walking around with a soft song playing in the background. There's some interspersed birdsong as well.] Female Voice: Mm, god!

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