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This is an interview with George Waldstein for the voices of 1968 oral history project. With me are rebecca johnson Melvin

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manuscripts librarian and curator of the Joseph R. Biden junior senatorial papers. And Deborah Olsen.

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I'm Sean Melinda, editor of The Review in 1960, 8.8 voices of 1968, interviewee himself. George and I commenced

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a lifelong friendship in 1968. And it's no exaggeration to say, you're changing both their lives immensely. The novelist Marilyn French captured 1968.

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Well, when she wrote that you're itself was an open door, but a magical one. Once you went through it,

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you could never return. What were you doing, George went 1968 dawn. I think I've lived a total, complete version of panic.

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Why? Well, I was very active. I was, I saw myself as a political operative. So 1965-1978 was

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my political years and 68 was, was a tough one for me because at the time, you know, my heroes were in the civil rights movement.

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I always went from worshipping the New York Yankees to the civil rights workers. Some martin Luther King,

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whom I met in 1967. And I went to work for him in 1967 as the Vietnam summer coordinator in Delaware, which was built around the anti-war movement.

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I attend classes with Andrew Young plus my team leader, teacher, instructor. About a year. Now you're really changed my

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life and set me up for 1968 because in 1967, I was given a tour of the Hough section of Cleveland where

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the National Guard use 50 caliber machine gun bullets to knock down buildings and kill people. And I was taken to

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a church with Nicolson who was my partner at the time. They are both were both being instructed. And that time is a very small church.

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Martin Luther King came in with his body guards. He was very upset. I'm really tired.

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Gave one of the most inspiring speeches I ever heard was just electrified by his magnetism is charisma, his dedication.

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But I also got the feeling when I saw him was that he wasn't going to live long. I just knew I just knew in my heart the fact that he went from

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the Silver Rights Movement to the anti-war movement basically sealed his fate. And of course, the 1960s, April 4th,

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that premonition that I got when I had came true. I spent years trying to find out who is who orchestrated murder.

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I did find out. I know who did. It was George Wallace or did they hit on him? And I I was devastated.

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And April, I mean, I was horrified. Medgar Evers also got shot. And of course, bobby Kennedy was terminated. And in LA, I found out who did.

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I know who did it. I know that the bullets that killed him came from the back. It wasn't Syrians area.

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So for me now, looking back, I filled in so many of the spaces happened. And we're still affected by the fact that the bullets at that time came from the right.

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Literally a bigger, literally from the right. With government. When you say government, I mean, there are people within the government

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who would never do anything like that. But I pretty much narrow down, figured out who did it. And we were really,

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I mean, it was upset. It was a tough year because after Kennedy was killed, a bunch of us from the SDS went to

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the Democratic Convention in August of 68. Was really a Bayesian, was all the people that we, it was a small group of people.

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All their parents were contact them. So the ones that were students are contacted by the FBI. They were contacted to

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keep them from going to Chicago in 1968. At that time, we all we knew that the only person that had a list of all these people,

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where was our secretary who turned out to be working for the FBI? You know, when I sit to Bresler, our professor was the advisor.

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I said, well, what do we do? Well, we have to get rid of her. So I said, Well, who's gonna do that? Well, you that's my job.

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But backing up slightly to the beginning of the year you were a student. Talk, talk briefly about how

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SDS engineered a bloodless coup and took over the student government. And all that followed in that way, concluding Rob being kicked off campus.

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Well, how did that happen? Well, that happened like in 1967 when I was a student, I wasn't a student at 67 banished.

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Basically I became an in-person. But in 67 race CC, who was our part? We have what kind of rivalry for

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the leadership of students for a democratic society? He was a very good student. He had a photographic memory.

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You can read a book. But anyway, he decided to run for student government. So I was his wing man.

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We were to ban committee and ray always said, you know, we're going to talk to the fraternities. You've got my back. And I said, Yeah, I did because Ray

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was very angry and he loved to fight. He was ready. I hated fighting because he wanted his fights are usually lost. Mine.

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But anyway, we had a battle. He was very effective, right? The leaflets, I make posters. We had about four or five students

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who are on, on our ticket. My big battle with him was, you know, we didn't have any poles. We had no idea what it was.

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But I said Ray, we we have to do something really important because we need a full-page ad in the review. I know, you know,

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showing them all and I will go over there. We get a full-page ads say student power with all our pictures and this'll when you like. And he said No. I said What's the matter?

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I thought we were gonna get in a fight. I said I said, Well, really good, $30 and we need that for this. I said, Look, I worked on

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the fill Billroth Roth campaign in 1966 and I helped him get elected. And I know how to win elections. We need this now.

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Well, it was one of the few people I can never win an argument with. One of you was smarter than

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me and he was older than me. And he goes down in history as the three people that never won an argument with racy.

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Racy sees mother and my mother. You can't wet. So what I did was I found 100 bucks. I went to the review.

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I sat down, I told him what I wanted. I said student power. And that ad won the election. I'm convinced of it. So he won.

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And he was there till the ROTC walk on, walk off thing took place. He resigned when the university decided to toss the kids out of school.

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Just a backup. Stretch West Ed stretch once allows, gave was a student and campaigned against ROTC and lead the walker?

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No. Well, he organized the walk off. He was the leader of it. When we got to, the whole trick was amazing.

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It was a guy who goes to drive up in a van. And it was kenny Wiggins who later become a retired general from the National Guard.

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He would blow the whistle, honk the horn, and about ten or 20 people walked off. We expected an entire regimen

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to walk off, but they didn't. So RACI CNI were out there on the sidewalk with Sharon Johnson and a bunch of

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SES or so sauce. There was this guy named Eric Lao back, who's an insurance agent from Phoenix, Arizona, plays guitar.

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He says, well, they look to us not enough while we walk on. So he started it. I am blaming him

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for changing everybody's life. So as always, people walked on their marching in k1s to live, to live, due to live load.

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And all these people are marching towards this, broke up all the lines. One of the people who they march towards,

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his name was God. The name was and last name was Anderson who was going to punch somebody in the mouth, but he did.

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And he's now my brother-in-law. My wife's brother. So there was this confusion that it was amazing to see everybody, Marsha.

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So what happened was the university through these a bunch of kids off one of them I think was really to Ponts on. And of course they threw

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them off and we're going to call their draft boards and they get drafting, go to Vietnam. That was the whole big deal.

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When we heard about that, we, I organized a protest. Jim McCarthy, who was a great blues harmonica player,

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wrote a confession based on the participation as of the people in Denmark who would put on

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a Star of David, that was the whole row. This guy was a bright, right? I wrote this great confession and we got about 1,600 students to sign it.

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And we're going to start the revolution, support our brother and bla, bla bla. Unfortunately, we gave the thing to Reverend Andrews,

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who was the Methodist minister of the Phoenix Center on worksheet drive, which now the University, Of course, flattened and

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turned into a parking lot. And we fourth person, you never wanted argument. Well, unfortunately, he he said he assured

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me that the confession will go into as safe for safekeeping. And we were convinced that we had support from everywhere and we did.

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This was really critical mass for the university. The university had to stop this period. The way they stopped it

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was the very next day. I said, Well, Andrew is I want to get the confession and we're gonna go get excuse me.

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And then he goes, Well, we had a problem. So what's the problem? He says, I burned it. I said Why?

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Hyper and the confession. I said Why. He said Well, I got a lot of calls from concerned parents. And the parents want this to go.

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They don't want their kids involved. And it just recently I talked to one of the gal who was a student who signed

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that confession and she got her her parents got a visit from Chief Bryer, really no art police chief

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and told her that her name was on that day. So there was pressure from everywhere. Plus I would later find out I didn't know it then, but remember,

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dangerous sexual preferences were known to the university and I really believed that they blackmail him. He was caught. So when

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I was just outraged and I just said, you know, I mean, racy see resigned from the student government. All these people.

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I mean, it really. So I went, started another confession using the same words. And I got about 19 people to sign up,

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no one else but Simon anymore. So I was really I was outraged. And so I went to rob Bresler and I said Rod, you guys signed it.

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Rob was a polysaccharide? Yes. Extremely popular one? Yeah. He was. So also our first he was

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the one that introduces this SDS. And he saw I did Al Myers, who is in the a site department. So I did an ED Kaplan from

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history and Kaplan spoke fluent Mandarin. I mean, all these guys are brilliant. I mean, to me, I looked I looked. I really to me,

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I was like tripping through the light fantastic office hours, a leader. All I mean, I was the nerd in high school, they talk in a different setting up.

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All of a sudden. This was unfortunately all three of these guys were fired by the university. I'm looking back over the years.

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Yeah, I can understand the university position on all of this. You know, they had a rebellion on their hands. They had to stop it.

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But it cost them their jobs and a radicalized me. The point where, because you have to understand

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there was a big strike and Columbia University went on. And they're basically the whole idea of a liberal education came into question.

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The whole idea of how do we participate a society that basically is an imperialistic power. And basically it, it goes out and conquers.

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I mean, that's what war is about. For a lot of people who are smart and educated, like we were really had.

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It was a shock. You know, we all grew up with these fairy tales of, you know, I mean, we love America.

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I still do, I still love my country. I so loved the system that we have. However, it petered out and then evolve than the craziest thing that happened

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was the assassination of Martin Luther King set off another, another explosion in or around the country. And I really believed that his murder,

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The Civil Rights Movement. But on the Delaware campus, it was more like a whimper, not an explosion, even though

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the National Guard was rolling into Wilmington 12 mi away. Well, as being the cause of a whimper. Explain you how you

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whimper when you're faced with overwhelming odds. So what happened was Hosea Williams from the SCLC Ms.

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Comment on the flyer, right? He was common. And then I met with Leroy Tate, who was the leader of the Delaware

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State rebellion down there. So we decided to protest the national guard patrols to coordinate something where we

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would do it on the same day. But I told him, I said Look, I said Leroy Williams is coming on this date. Why can't we wait to do it that day?

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For whatever reason, you know, Leroy take went into their Students Center about a day ahead of us or two days

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and basically got shut down with invasion of the state police and and, you know, they they faced I don't know if there was any

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physical thing down there, but I know they made him run through a gauntlet of people and cops and scared the hell out of.

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So when Hosea came, I talked to Jose away and I said, Look, we're going to take over the student's cetera, dot the dot.

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The dot is how a great idea and I got an a long talk. And at that time, you know, if, if the movement was moving

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towards violent armed struggle, who replaces mostly from the black community because the ones who were doing all the fighting,

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I asked him his position. What was Martin Luther King's position on armed struggle and stuff? Jose was really smart so

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well either George, you know, when you're outnumbered and now gun, you know, picking up a gun is pretty

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much a losing situation. So he didn't commit one way or the other, but that made sense to me. Yeah. So so he

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gave his talk and Larry Mason got up after we announced that we're taking over other students that are back today, we're having a demonstration of a concert.

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Yeah. So we did get a bump. So we were in the vestibule, the doors, it's basically the university

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was reading lists, the riot act. You have to remember, at the time, students for a democratic society had a philosophical belief,

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which I thought was very moral, was participatory democracy. And you have to understand, I'm there with all these people and we're

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getting threats from the police and National Guard. They are. And you know,

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how do I how far do I push this thing? You know, I never felt that I should ask people to do something I wasn't

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willing to do myself. So we put it to a vote. Well, the issue is do we blocked the entrance now allows

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did because we had a similar demonstration that Holly and whole ones, and we could have blocked the student though.

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I said, look, what if your kids want to do as well? We want to demonstrate, but we don't want to stop other kids from going in.

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So that's always been our position. So that way we're non-violent. We're not going to cause a blood bath which allows afraid up,

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you know, Oh, George Wilco and we're going to be forever. So we sat in there for like four or five days

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singing songs and we were fasting. Of course, the fraternities had a great way as terrorizing. All of a sudden, five pizzas.

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Pizza pepperoni. Oh, he smelled a pepperoni. Efsa. None of us ever. Not the children of Gandhi.

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Basically the children of customer pool is steak shops. And sure enough, the next day I saw a snake saying,

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wow, I can't stand this out. So, but anyway, I finally got to the point Bresler gets to touch Mason George. What are you gonna do?

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I said I don't know and I've got it to I since I got one student. Connor. He his mother, his father was Bill Connor,

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the New Castle County Jim, and his mother was Luis Conor, who is a female legislators, all of them Republican.

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He came Prion demands and Georgia, I can't I can't say I said What's the matter? I mean, it was interior.

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Well, they found out about my girlfriend at Mount Pleasant High School. Oh, no. Man. They think everything, you know,

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they didn't want him. They didn't want Connors name. So they put it by way of background to convert.

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Family ran New Castle County, they dominated the new castle county government. Louise was a stateless, right, right.

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So this poor kid, you know, he left. And then I get this call from Bresler, said Georgia, you know,

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they've had enough and I said, What do you mean? Well, they're going to call in the National Guard and it is they're going

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to I don't remember his exact words were basically is kick your ass. So having grown up in

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New York and been threatened half my life by everybody, I said, Oh dear, because we were demanding

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the end of the national guard patrols in Wyoming. And of course, my other brother-in-law was a national guardsman.

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He he had since told me what he did to black people. I'm not going to say it. What he did was

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complete terror for black people when those guard patrols rewinding a bit to Bob Andrews in the Phoenix Center. There was a publication

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that you've had a lot to do with that was an alternative to the review during those times called the heterodoxy called voice, yes.

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I sold it as the heterosexual voice. I was saying on the core heterosexual voice. They'll buy the heterosexual and they would not,

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they didn't know a heterodox vein. Heterodox is the opposite of Orthodox. So I use a cylinder head on campus. Yeah, it was a national editor of the paper.

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It was founded by Jim, Tom or Ellie, who is a graduate student. Scs had different sections. We have artsy 40 people.

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We had the psych department. They were really crazy. I mean, I love them, but they were crazy.

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He was one of the craziest of all of them. A crocodile was in that group and Mario positive gleaning wasn't there. So he decided to make a paper

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and it was great. Bresler wrote under the denom though, whatever you call it. Tacitus. He was Tacitus and I votes.

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I was a journalist. When the Martin Luther King riots took place. You know, I went, I get on, my car, showed up right in the middle.

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I need to talk to somebody and always kids would come over and nearly 12 like the name the wrap and Stokely, I wrote about them and what did you guys do?

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Oh, we burned down this. I read it. I wrote it down in a little penciled in a log here.

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The red pickup back. But the voice mainly under your tutelage is the national editor, was telling a story about

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the Vietnam War that you certainly we're not reading in the news journal. Know, I, I when I

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did my first article I wrote, I exposed the five to the Gulf of Tonkin breast. The solution was based on a lie.

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It didn't happen. I got my research, I went down to Washington DC and that is the stone,

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IF Stone put out an IF Stone weekly, which was the most read weekly in the world back then. I mean, he he was I went down there.

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I offered to be a journalist for him. He was this little Jewish guy would think Coke, glasses on either. Papers, magazines,

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and George go back to school. So I use his research. I read rule from Prussia, communists writer in Australia.

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I read. I just went back over the New York Times articles that described

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an incident and it describes eight to 1012 foot swells and trying to figure out, you know, it talked about

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a navy that didn't exist. I mean, they had like four PT boats and two are serviceable in this one, teeth went out in

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the Gulf of Tonkin way past its range and Florida torpedo and now only six people, according to their time, saw the account. So I wrote one of

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the first article was basically questioned. There's no question. The whole idea that basically there are only two senators Akin,

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so Vermont more RAM than voted against it two guys, and I was convinced that the war was started illegally.

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It was an illegal war. But you were framing the war as a struggle for national liberation by the Vietnamese,

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which was an alien concept to virtually all Americans who were buying the, the line from the Johnson White House, that this was a great struggled communism.

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What the voice was doing and I thought doing very effectively. You've been putting people who didn't understand it had

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nothing to do with heterosexuality and read it anyway, was that the war was framed in a context that was far more accurate,

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but simply was not be disseminated in the American news media. Well, yeah. You have to understand. 1965 and

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we started the students for a democratic society. That's when I was a freshman at the university.

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And we were every, every week or so CBS would come out with James Collins worth or, you know, Roger Mudd was,

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they point to a map of Vietnam, French Indochina. Show who controls water, my butt. And I was rooming with

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Michael Quinn would later become the brigade commander of the ROTC and he brachii. And we would argue about the Vietnam War

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in the dorm and people would come and they would actually listen to this debate one day because the storage is a guy, he's coming.

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He's a French writer. He wrote a book about the NBN. Foo is coming to students in it. You got it. Look, I'm not going to go and listen to

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somebody who is going to pull it as Time Magazine. And then everybody in the audience will have their time and it gets below me.

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So he's now you gotta come. It's hard. So he drags me off. Yeah. And the place is packed and there's four DuPont I mean,

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there's whoever was anybody who had a brain in Delaware with their Amanda time Magazine's I'm sitting there like quit.

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A little guy called, pulls out his Time Magazine. He reads, well, what we need is more so and more troops were supplies

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and we can turn this around and six months and baba, baba, baba, baba. And then he goes, yes,

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this is the Time Magazine from April 14, 1954. The week before the Battle of Actium. Everybody at home pick up

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that time, seats on a minute. And then I said, Man, Who is this guy? His name is Bernard Fall. I what he did was,

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if you want to find out who controls anything, you find out where they're collecting money, taxes.

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So he had all the maps and he spoke French, I guess he books from vietnamese. So he determined that the film Kong was CAG with getting all the money

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in the countryside. I remember, I don't remember if he said it, but I knew that the problem with Vietnam is my understood about war.

00:31:16.810 - 00:31:28.730

It was all wars, religious wars. And I knew we were going to lose primarily because the, the government in Saigon was Catholic.

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And the Catholic population was only 12.5%, the rest of Buddhist. So the Viet Cong are you understood that this was

00:31:38.450 - 00:31:52.310

a Buddhist war against Catholicism? This is what no one really understood. I mean, it explained why the Buddhist monks started burning

00:31:52.310 - 00:31:59.270

themselves in 1963 because they were protesting, not the Viet Cong, they were protesting the dam regime,

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the Catholic regime that was brutal to them. So I knew it was sent away but got a window when this damn war. But Bruno fall actually provided all the,

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all the material that David Halberstam, all these new York, he gave everybody the data, the proof of why this work.

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And you have to remember, I mean, I was facing my Hawaiian family. I was born in Hawaii. All were in a

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Served and then my father was served in the Second World War. I lost my uncle and the Second World War for me to be against my country.

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Was this you couldn't do. But at the time I just knew. I mean, here's the thing we're told. We're talking about dominoes.

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Communist. What I would like to say, anybody who's still supports that war, if we're fighting communists, if that was so important.

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Why is straining with a communist China that owns a third of our day? Why are we training with Vietnam?

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I mean, all of a sudden, was it that bad? I mean, I mean, what do you check all those soldiers who died for common here we are.

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Number one, trade and barter, China, communist China. What do you tell them? When we all go to heaven? So you get back to Wilmington

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and then New York at the end of August of 1968, battered, bloodied. You spend at least one night in jail. You saw your friends get beaten up.

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Some of the photos that Leo Tammy token earlier voices at 1968 interviewee, you had changed, had Wilmington and New York and

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the university changed at all. Wow. Look, I've been gone. I've lived in Colorado for 20 years and came back couple of

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years to start to rock and roll thing. I got on Facebook. I get a message from a girl whose father was mayor read.

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My opponent when I ran for mayor, Bill read, Bill Ray, right? Who build himself as a Chinese Red Hat are debated.

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The ladies, ladies exhilarated of League of Women Voters. He got, were there on the stage and he goes, I also wanted to let George Wolfe

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knows he's running against Chinese, read, write, and smoke to do what I thought I was the only uses. Well, my boy was born in China.

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My parents were Christian missionaries and my last name is red. So all the Chinese read. I knew I lost the election right there,

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even though it's a little bit after 1968, right? So probably worth jumping ahead and explaining,

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well, here's the x-value. You qualified as a resident. In order to run well, let me finish my story.

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His door, Facebook's paint. Yeah. So I wanted to tell you how much respect my father and his best friend

00:35:30.640 - 00:35:45.670

Irving Shapiro, have for you? Shapiro was the president of the DuPont company and they respected everything you did.

00:35:45.670 - 00:35:57.990

They knew what you were going through. This is how you changed since they voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976.

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So now that might prove because for years and years I didn't, I just saw what I did is I was a failure. We didn't stop the war in Vietnam.

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Which is why in 1970, after Kent State, after Cambodia, after Nixon got elected, I was done. I just thought, Well, this is it.

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What was your other question? Because I forgot how you qualified to run for mayor. Oh, there was a residency requirement if

00:36:26.340 - 00:36:35.300

you live in you lifted lift. Listen, I was done with politics. The last thing I wanna do, you see? I'm an activist, but

00:36:35.300 - 00:36:42.230

then can keys he came to town? Yes. Ken Kesey changed my life. Keith Casey comes to town.

00:36:42.230 - 00:36:50.850

Everybody say George who couldn't QC. I'll I said I don't care about Canton case. I build a wolf Hall and it's packed with all these people.

00:36:50.850 - 00:36:59.690

He's, he gives a speech about I'm growing pot and I'm tired of 167 year old kids coming into my farm and steal my pot plants.

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And I said, Well, we got to do is make it legal and we'll do it by taking overseas where there are college campuses,

00:37:06.680 - 00:37:21.760

baba blah, You know, I sound like great idea. So someone said Harley, Harley Weiner wanted George wildcard

00:37:21.760 - 00:37:35.270

familiar because MIT, Georgia, Georgia zero. Okay. So this guy passes the hand and he's got like $154 and Tom Watkins

00:37:35.270 - 00:37:41.610

and artist comes out to George, your first order of business is to grab that cake because he's going to walk off with all their money.

00:37:41.610 - 00:37:50.580

And sure enough, he's woken up and all the money. And I walk up behind, I just read combat. I pulled it but it's my money.

00:37:50.580 - 00:37:55.020

Okay. Well, you know who do you think I could do to help you? Hope you

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So just to run for mayor, I I decided well, I had to call the city fathers on it. Or you can't run from a mountain.

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I said you have to own property in men the city nor no, you've got to own property. So Mayor handle off was

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she had been the mayor. She's running again. So I said, Alright, so I told my girlfriend Jenny and I

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got an idea. What is it? Sean working for the news journal. That's you call him up and then we'll call the city fathers out.

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What do you do this I think is solid. So I call the city fathers out. Then I say, well, I'm running for mayor.

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I said, Well, I bought property. I bought property. I'm a property owner in the city of door run unfamiliar.

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You can't keep me. What property do you buy? I said, well, 7 ft, 3 ft wide, 6 ft deep. I bought a cemetery plot.

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You got to make me right. And I had Shawn on those southern news journal bearing on of the summit.

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Well, the town goes crazy. Oh, Georgia. Well then it turned out that legally cemetery plot is not real estate.

00:39:35.720 - 00:39:45.960

So it's personal property, so that didn't count. So they kept me off the ballot. At the time.

00:39:46.750 - 00:39:58.520

Ron Maguire who was here, he was running for city council. That they just kept us fall on it. They said forget it, go away.

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So I got a lawyer, I got cautionary, was very famous for he represented some priests accused of something he didn't do an outline

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and we we got these laws changed. It was unconstitutional to keep allowing people. Send me Brian thoughts and

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real estate, that doesn't matter. You don't need to own property to run for mayor. The other thing is, we were able to do,

00:40:27.290 - 00:40:35.630

and this is really important, but we, every student university delaware can declare his dorm room as his legal domicile and he could

00:40:35.630 - 00:40:43.040

vote in actual city electrons. So if there are Democrats and Republicans out there, you've got a chance to go

00:40:43.040 - 00:40:52.070

get students and Bob. So anyway, so that was right, positive. I came in second and I keep running into people

00:40:52.070 - 00:41:00.740

actually voted for him. Thousands, right? You know, hundreds. I don't think there were more than 2000 Bose.

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I got 400 and seven, something like that. But that's, that's the last political thing. Because when I came back to I got to tell her in

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1970 and I had to do with the FBI, love that something else. But anyway, getting back to 68, which was really important,

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we got a call from before I was a student, came to the heterodox Google Voice and I don't know if Jim Tom really took it or Michael billings.

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They took the coral color, but he said he was he had infiltrated the white vigilantes student. I had never heard of it.

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And he said that they were planning the Execute me. And it was because it's 68 things got so heated.

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I was getting deference. My mother called me up. Georgia, you got to come up here. She's freaked out and my mom is

00:42:21.530 - 00:42:30.510

a tough call. I am woman. Marie level gets her on her. She says they're calling me up in there, they're going to kill you.

00:42:30.510 - 00:42:37.730

And while I was there, I got a phone call. Here. Click this.

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What are we gonna do with George wall kind, we're going to kill him. So I went to bronchiole. What do I do about, you know,

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because we told them about this white vigilantes North America. And he said the clam, the rising sun clam had a split.

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Split was between the old timers and the new Tiber. The new guys. Guy, Chrysler workers claim Randy union of Christ.

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And they wanted to do something. What they wanna do is get rid of me, Leo, Tammy, some of the other people, because

00:43:22.190 - 00:43:31.190

they had already rated the Phoenix Center. Scaring the hell out of this Australian grad students through so all these guys trucks

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and play a little flag, crosses and burn them, set them on fire. They ran through that. They ran through the Phoenix Center,

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scaring the hell out of here. I know that you could think of where's the Barbie on the board? Told me that?

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It's the Ku Klux Klan and yet they not here at a barbecue, anything there. He had a fire again. So we're getting all these threads.

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And so what we do as well, what are we going to do? Well, well, well, we call the news journal. We got one of the reporters,

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I forget his name, be this story than we did a story and heterodox old boys exposing and fat,

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they're going to kill me. Now. One of the things that the informant was said,

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I'm convinced he was an FBI agent because this is not something that's student 19, eight-year-old kid dies, you know,

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infiltrates events, has all of our numbers and called. And he said The white vigilantes and North America went to

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Angela Bruno ahead of the filling mom contract on me. That's when I went to briefly talk about what what's going on, blah, blah, blah.

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But so I would go hide out different places and I was paranoid. You know, I see a car, I see I saw one guy reading

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the newspaper and a dark street corner. I I was like My father thought I was going to die. He thought it was over.

00:45:12.840 - 00:45:20.480

So what if my mother but they never told anybody because dead father, we get to threats in his office when he kill your son.

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So then one day I found myself in on Clinton Street where receipts used to live. And that day, he had a jacket,

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white vigilante Lloyd W V&A on his coat, and he goes into a bar. And of course there's a black guy and a white guy.

00:45:44.720 - 00:45:53.870

And is it What's that weight visually? They get an altercation. They run out of the bar, he shoots him in the back.

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He shot both of them. Fortunately, they weren't killed. But I think he turned himself into you at the news journal, right? Yes.

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Yeah. Bruno Bruno turn down basically the mafia there. You don't kill civilians.

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So there was no contract and never happened. But years later, Nikki Scarface took over the Philly board and I

00:46:26.690 - 00:46:35.540

know if they paid him enough money, he would've he like killing people already there. When I went to Colorado, Nikki scarf,

00:46:35.540 - 00:46:43.040

a wound up at the federal prison with John gati down the road. Maybe you started with and I use the limiting Lake City.

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So I was familiar with Nicky scarf has control of local 50 for the city. So I said, Man, I can't

00:46:51.740 - 00:47:07.330

get away for these guys. Anyway. Oh, we did go to the Democratic convention. We're going to film it for the voice

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to Tom Morello out his camera. Already Mason with the sound man. We're honest. Big street, that line of cops.

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This one cop comes with a three-and-a-half foot, right. But since I grew up, I know I've been

00:47:24.540 - 00:47:35.300

I know when somebody is trying to kill you. So I grabbed the EEG. What's an adequate run? Sure enough. The guy hit Larry Mason.

00:47:35.300 - 00:47:42.680

We're back at ahead. Open up 510 stitches over his head? No. I went to the hospital.

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Are Magnus used to sell drugs to students at the University of Delaware and the father on the farm in Maryland, he was standing on Clark Street

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and the cop hit him cross the tempo. Tends to Judas went to the hospital and I know that this bow eventually

00:48:00.950 - 00:48:11.360

resulted in his death. Brain damage from that eye. That radicalized me. And I think the mistake for

00:48:11.360 - 00:48:20.990

me and for the left at that time was we let, we didn't vote. We didn't vote for Hubert Humphrey. And this was her biggest mistake

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because it went Nixon. Because George Wallace had five states. Alabama, he was running and he took the South.

00:48:30.110 - 00:48:41.630

If we'd just not allowed nixon to come in, we would have saved a lot of lives. And this is why I'm so angry with the left now because they let Hillary,

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the left Hillary logo. We got hello. So with that, can I play it because x2, so now there then

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I became like a Zola's blues. And so thank you.