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Take 25 one book or Perkin and I'm speaking with a lot of confidence, continuing her experiences, consolidate. Well. And like I said,

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the awareness black and white with though belated to let that it was not a Jew. I go into that school not like a coming here

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with the left sibling in girlfriend. I did gave a friend. But it was all wave of AI kinds of stigma there.

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As far, as far as our friendship could go. I did. We didn't feel free to run in and out of the house, like lead to always be in,

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out of the White House with all the while and the kids with me and I'll come to our house. But that thought because of the feeling that yeah,

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That was how can I say that accurate? The beginning of the integration, the feeling of being part of the friendship diminished.

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In a thorough, friendly, kept in good contact with a, with a, with a heart matching thing. Really heart wrenching.

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Become aware of the haka. How many got that? Because there was an SDR, the TPS and boy,

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shall abuela, am I stop the file? Yeah. Yeah. So going from there to afterwards, what did what did you take? An actual thing going in my head.

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From that experience, what we're going to act to life for you. Gallon can have congenital genetic there and all together.

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Because coming from that area from the white school, it was totally different. I I'm I'm nothing that we were any smarter,

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but the quality was a little more adept enough that maybe I think that incorrect. But I'm going to in our black school again, well,

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a little Jeff fret because we had learned an awful lot in that, tender it as Delhi to the white school. That different from

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going to the all-black school. Again, I don't want to say quality, but there will be different quality. As to where the teaching. Yeah.

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My, my sister, she left there for half a year after that innovate because my oldest is the five of their allele mom,

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I thought you were to upload with intellect to cancel okay. With with my older sister she and her halfway in the book.

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That you were there at actual job yet? Qualify myself. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Not separated yet. Yeah. Yeah.

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But I I like that from Janice Light. I had the method futurism with quite different and they end up buying more.

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Because I had different teachers for different subgroups than they would agree with that. That will then go as we went to

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Athens Jones in the goldman the fifth grade. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So different Could you go to different platforms

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that you move around? Yeah. To me and I look now we had like English and and music and math and,

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and the home economics and a workshop. Like maybe five or six different classes and with different teachers. Which kind of tiny me because I

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was used to one teacher here at two. And then one picked you up on top of the yellow UNL and then to the thrown into a situation where are you going to do in

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three or four or five different that teachers kinda like tiny thing. It took me a while to adapt. Yeah.

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How long did you go? I went there and tell Kent, great. Yeah. And then you work too? Well. I came out

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of school because they thought it was grown grown. Okay. But then I did

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a while back and finish my education in college. Okay. Yeah. It was

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a time period that the poverty,

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if you will, for realistic give you a foundation for Dealing with what you had to deal with as an adult?

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Yeah. I don't even know what Harsh Yeah. Yeah. Because it keep it hot. That even that we

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went through that that period, there were the left and law, not law. But we lost some of our guys. I want to say unbreakable situation

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because Lee and brave like like black and white with the everyday thing that everybody would be happy and jolly and weak,

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a job, live life, go into that. What the hard part is, the deprecation of knowing that you are black or white.

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And you can't do the same thing. You are not equal. We did not have it work. You will let the book that we

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were studying, ADA were hand-me-down. That and what? That meant that we were hacking cough, acquire a lightning academically because

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my mother was fired from a job because she forgot an hypothetical. My mother well, almost

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penalized from the welfare department and Disney on her benefit because Duff, pretending not to the whole school. So it was a perfect time for all of

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that to 10 to have a high education, but to lose. The really was not our total devastation to my mother

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that they could be so cool at the whole Her are wanting to have an education against her and her living.

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I heard her work her job, so give her him for for a lawyer. Don't tell me everything you need to be the pressure was put on them.

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Well, I must necessarily think pressure with prevalent and I really give any day probably add, add some thought. Of course.

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But I think the application of pressure Well, the main thing I got to go and as far as my mother, looting or almost leaving,

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the benefit of the London to support them was largely. And then Jeff wanted to ensure or for wanting to be better educated

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and got them from a non-profit here. He taught after whatever it is. You do it for you. You can't let anything stand in your way.

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She took a lot of fresh what she loved that job. That was like taking half of our groceries out of our mouth.

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Because she fully dependent on that. They'll mess with the two themes to clothes on our feet. That was that was our livelihood

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and what she loved that went got a net a lot. Because she herself, according to domestic or technical here of children and then the chiggers.

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Well, and there was never a watch for half KV always very open market as far as housekeeping. What's the term though,

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whether long before she got a job, but what she had to deal with it with another factor, they weren't as high as they were,

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but they needed their help clean. Uh-huh. Okay. And they gave her a very hard time, but they knew that she

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had to do that to keep that. And how it was a must for her to take some of their their fly we marked or come to their mean.

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Disregard of her feeling as a human being. And how long did a period lack for your mother and four. So it would be like

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the figures for the rest of the family to when there would be when you would have seen a time that kind of ill-treatment of your mother?

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Well, it took quite a while because people are not nothing. Forget how they have to move over and give you that little end of

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life such as the quality. So I really can't say exactly when, but you during the course of the years, two or three or four years,

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did you see the little diminishing some of the wall of bigotry be torn down or being resolved. Yet.

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It took me a really good, but it's still there under the surface. All idiom was sugar coated so that life can go on

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meaningfully for them, of course. And but I really did. And it would take much to the sketch tab and forth there.

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8880 minutes, thumb. But it was a myth telling independence of mind and heart that you convey

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that something can never be taken away. So do you feel that, you know the strength that you got from your family and

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that central cell that your teacher until that was helpful? Yes. Yet to do because she may not aware that we

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we and only came guide our depth and it was up to, up to get out of what we can out of life to maintain a better life for ourselves.

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It was up to us that nobody couldn't do it for you and not to deviate from your client for yourself.

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Because people have a way of saying, Oh, look at that. A lot of black rock, she needs to be taken down

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a peg tube because she's getting two up there. And you equal. But you have to

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differentiate the atria stuff on your friendship to what you know, it's good for you. He made us much aware that the

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unaware of the black can get what they need is to persevere and not any one deter you from what you need for yourself.

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And that's important factor, yeah. Today that you feel that that grading tool, your education, if they get Supreme Court the B52 you to education.

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And very much though because what we were learning year, hawaii and great journey. But there are avenues that it pop and go into

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the white gold is a whole different level that we could expound on. Because the quality,

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the quality of the education carry out. I'm not the end I don't need I don't understand. What we got here was like laughing.

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Believe me, I would not have to have asked for a better capture of education then what Mrs. John

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and the disruption Gave of here. But it opened up a whole different avenue. As far as the English and in mathematic than all the other academic standards

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that we need to learn to you for life, obtaining it kind of like in a while, like a whole new, a whole new life to be exact.

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And whole new awareness of the world. I thought that that that we were thrown back and not that I get allowed to engage with

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it because it would for quote unquote my popular yeah. Hi. I don't know. I mean, her her for not only for me,

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but for surely dealer. He was the fore runner. And God knows, that poor girl really had to absorb

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shocks and hurt her life. Nami, we can't forget that. Our our our ForeRunner in all of this. And we got our bumps in space.

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Yes. But she got the onslaught because of her and her parents being the first to get this. Educational thing.

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Yeah. I understand. I'm prepared to do that. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

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They had add-on Valley Road. They had like a little protein than they add a pin and all of that. When they started with

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the rehydrated or her buffing, her whole clientele get Peterborough. And that was their livelihood. So it was like, Okay,

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you want your child to go up to our white schools and we don't need to patronize you because you're trying to fill your thumb our plunder,

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so to speak, and make your child equal to our, you know, our our children. And any other thoughts with an awful lot.

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They really did. Thank God let the fear that they did not let anything for them. They persevered and thank the Lord for

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it because we myself and in the children after of benefit it whirling out of their hurt and devastation? Yes, we did. Yes, we did.

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And and and I'll never forget them. Never. Yeah. Surely herself, Padre and cooker parents spend DOD

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but I think he had two children. I don't know where they are dealt with. They had like a little memorial for the lab last year and up and up,

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but I don't there were 800 people in the thing. Yeah. I think it's one vine full Glenn. I'm really glad because if you

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don't make sure documentation, teeth Never Never D now because they don't want to none. That's why it's important.

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Nephew had anything that would benefit yours. Then there's candid out, get it down and documentation now where you come from to know where you're going.

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Because I never thought that I would ever go to a school, that I would ever be called a nigger by people that I

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played with everyday clothing. Never in the world. Because we did. This was our little corner, you know,

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that this is our little corner. And then when we were thrown out of that into this segregation, Oh my God, what a revelation.

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I need a true revelation. The awareness level astounding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do have actually,

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I have a few more thing that I wanted to include, but we can go and we can do it another time. Okay.

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What, you know to talk to you. Oh, I will talk to you again. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Why don't we why don't we do that?

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How can they pay for that point and time to couple it to the lab. Love it. I love it. Yeah.

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Very interesting. And I have a few more thing that I want to go back to hire Hill School itself. You can ask about that.

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Right. Day-to-day activities. Okay. The country the country. Do you have anything else that you wanted to say today?

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That table I've got another yes. It's a wonderful tone deaf to talk about in ratifying. It seemed like it it it either this

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is the end of the interview for today. Defense take 251.