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This is Jennifer Matthews and I'm interviewing Bill Mariano, a former worker at the Chrysler plant in New York.

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So to get started, can you tell me a little bit about your life before you worked at Chrysler though? Where were you born

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and where did you grow up? I was born in a town called DAU of West Virginia. It is in a mining belt.

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Southern part of West Virginia, got 60 miles south of Charleston, which is a capital. And it's actually a backup in a holler,

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which you hear a lot about when you hear about coal mining in Kentucky and West Virginia and Tennessee's wasn't

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much in the area where I lived other than coal mining, as floors, making an income of any substantial.

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If you want to get married, have a wife and raise a family and have had to things that people want in life. I also Carne go

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on vacations, things like that. So when I graduated 960 now have Logan High School. I came to Delaware with my uncle

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who brought me up here in my uncle Joe Saltzman who work. I'm a Chrysler in. So we're not going to appear in

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July of 69 us just went around all the factories, General Motors, Chrysler crowds all back, DuPont and put my application in everywhere.

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Hope in Nagaland somewhere. Ideal for me was crusher goals molecules work there and I had a brother worked their cousins

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and things of that nature that was from a pool. So for about two weeks I started a crown Zola back and then I'm going to call it a

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Chrysler in August of 69. So I left chromosome about to go to crush that where everybody else in the family was working.

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I stayed there for 36 years. How did your relatives end up at the Delaware Chrysler plant? It in my local saul

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Joe Saltzman was born in Delaware. And by Act, which was my mom sister Ali came up here to visit her sister who murky back from up here.

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And they, they knew the family also lives and they, they introduce and they met and so they got married

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and they started migrating. Some of the families started migrating, apparently aunts and uncles, things of that nature.

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As a second generation or third generation, will grow up and West Virginia when they come down and visit. My mom and dad had seven kids or

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for boys and three girls. And boys won't be cold lunch. Well, I mean, I watched him guys come out of coal mines every

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day seeing a kind of lives they were living in what and what? Their ideal fun when he come out, mother was drink or

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go to church or playing cards and just, you know, there was no real excitement about it. There was no life for these gas and it was

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just something I didn't see me do it, you know, all the rest of my life it was more to life to me. Did you go nano nerd?

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I couldn't imagine what it would be like. My dad took me down one day. He took me down in my I knew right away

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that it wasn't for me to cluster phobic, too dark, too cold to dreary. Two, to everything that she didn't want to be as

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for going to work every day. So when my turn came and the opportunity came also, of course, I was lobbying for

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graduated about at that time. I had a brother that was up there that was established in choir, sir, and I had another brother that was

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approved established at a grocery store, so I knew I would have somewhere to stay ahead to aunts, uncles and I had a novel,

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It worked at General Motors. I do not have a place to stay. Well, I had to do a discount, hustle and be very aggressive about trying

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to get employment somewhere in the area, which I did. What should happen for me? I was very fortunate

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and it was a good place to work. You know, it does. As places like that go you got good days and bad days, but oh, no, it give me a very good life.

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It allowed me to provide for my family, sent to boys, to college, you know, so they got good education out of it when I've

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got a good retirement now, I've got a nice home. Yeah. Very house I used to live in.

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I was born in that house. Right. You're hanging on the wall? I think. So you can see it very well provided for a mother to step up.

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Yes. Squared big step up. So you mentioned that you got you found out about the job because

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you had relatives that worked there and then you put an application in and then they called you.

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So what was your first impression of the plant when you got in there for the first time? Well, I

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remember the first night I went to work because what I what I lift force, Virginia. I worked want to call it company store in the cookie storage.

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Just what do you know? The company owns everything. Everybody there. I mean, they got charge card. Do you charge everything there?

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Here? You bought furniture there, you buy your gas, air you about food there everyday. And I was making a $1.45.

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Now, in our work, from like six o'clock in the morning, I would open a store, were uninstalled. I help feed, pump, gas, new identity.

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End of the night when the store closed, I had to go make deliveries, whether it be furniture or food or whatever. And I'd work 450

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nowadays for daughter floor thigh, which back in 1969 was a lot of money. But unfortunately, I walked your courser, I went from a dollar 45 an hour to 354.

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A man or a young boy coming out of the rural West Virginia. I was rich. I will up to that plant. I kept telling myself all you gotta do

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every day because come to work and do what your company, what you do, and you can make a good living here

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because you're already making twice what your course. I had to pay union dues, which I didn't have to do to enter there.

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And I had to pay certain fees and things. But I got hospitalization. I've got health care, which anybody knows this day,

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even back in that day, was a substantial pay in itself. If you ever got sacra, you're like me, I've actually

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got married and had kids. The health care part of it really came in handy lots of times when we had do you know when when

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my wife had babies, I paid for that. When we take the kids to the doctor or dentist or whatever like that, that was all covered.

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So we're not walk. I remember it was just like our Deci says, like I won a lottery as forage and get a job. Because you look, you look now

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days come down and enter six. Now when you've got a job like debt, you set your mind, you can work Irish your life.

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Those jobs are gone. They're not around here anymore, you know, go find a place now that you can go into today and say look,

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if all are going to do is come to work. Do you want to tell me Do keep my nose clean. We say non-work your Reshma life. So I was really thrilled and

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excited and just couldn't couldn't wait to get home to tell tell my aunt and uncle bought my first night at work.

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Whenever it is done for me, it was like, you know, you're going into a place and I had alcohol, alcohol that work narrative brother warfare

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and they will very well known. So I will say that my uncle, nephew or my brothers little brother from West Virginia,

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you know, they called me little little Hillbilly. It didn't none of that offended me because I know I knew

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that they were saying that because they hadn't got to know me yet. It's just the way they identified me to my brother, a molecule.

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Now, kinda, I kinda enjoyed it really, you know, but also to back on the head. I knew I really had a show

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and work hard and keep up the tradition to dose two had started because they were known to be good workers come to

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work due to job and work hard. And I could not going to be the slacker. I wasn't going to be to want to go into a bit of

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first Slack or I, or a bad egg. Stuck in my head a long time. It's really got establishing, knew that I had arrived.

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It was really exciting to get a job like that is just because, you know, I got my first paycheck. But we cleared because I find

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the time to create your weekly. I've got my first paycheck. I remember thinking, wow, you know, I I

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saw what it took to union dues out and all that, which which kind of tells you for it, it gives you a little shocked,

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but then you look at what you still have left in all the hours I was working for dollar 45 down in West Virginia doing ALL and

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deliveries and Morgan all them hours. I was working eight hours a crash or even like to call it as making twice clear, twice as much.

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So first check I've got my uncle took me down to bank a, Delaware at the tabs P and C. Now that said let's go.

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He took me down, we opened up a savings account or checking account. And he told me right there, he said, Boy, To lot of money, don't

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go boy, so starch, save it. Figure out what you need each week to buy you food, large, pay your rent.

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Because I was living with my brother and I was pain pain on-brand. Just figure what you need to get you to the week.

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Put rushed out to mind, which says No, come back here until next week when you mechano that applause. He said, as you get it wrong,

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you'll know exactly what you got to keep out each week. You should not waste it. And I did it was very close.

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Come from Washington every time I got a paycheck, they enter L1. Our blue LED young kid had no desire to do anything other

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than get my spoon and money, go out and drink as young boys would do down there. But he told me someday

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you'd be want to get an apartment of your own. You're going have to buy furniture. You got to pay.

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Yeah. Hey, give me he did not sugarcoat any of it about life to me at all. We want this job could provide for me if I just started doing things

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right from the beginning. Instead of waiting to all my god, I made a whole new to us. I can't do that, but I had some by rote,

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took me under their wing and showed me what that job could provide if I handled my money properly each week on

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a day to get a paycheck. And I thank. Got he did at six months later, not even six months, four months later,

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after I got my 90 days and not in a union, I've got a draft notice from Uncle Sam. That's when I had a lottery. So since I was very fortunate,

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because just prior to that, Congress should pass a law that if you went in the military, the time that you served in

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the military and came out, your time went on into play. She worked. So I was gone for two years and

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less seniority for two years. Moved on. I didn't freeze, which was a good thing. So I've got to do a military obligation plus keep

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the good job ahead backyard country. When when I got out, we had 90 days once I got out of the military to go back

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what integrity 90 days to get back on took about 30 days to go see family and stuff like that. Just kick back and get

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used to move civilian life or death in and that's for now retired in 2005. And like I said, it was to me was it

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was God sent and a blessing to get in there. When I did and be able to have the good fortune to stay their company. You know, we had some rough times.

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Those are, you know, but all in all, it proved out for me to be a good place to go and stay in. It provided very good

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lifestyle for me and my family. So sounds like you have a pretty good memory of your first week or so at the plant.

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So what was your first day lighting? Did you get trained or do they just puts you right on the first first first week basically a tray.

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There were several different jobs. When you first went on, of course, you took you 90 days to get in a union union. You know, you didn't

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have you couldn't bid for any jobs or anything like that that give them 90 days look at units if you want to make degraded

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or they want to keep your nought. The first week was basically, the first night was just so exciting has been learning

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to the layout of the factory because it was a big, humungous place, because it's a town that had three divisions in there.

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They had a domestic division, they had an export division, they had what they called Roots and simpler roots and

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Simcoe was partial we pick for European vehicles. Exports was a lot of stuff that we sent over to the Saudi Arabia, Iraq.

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All these foreign countries at noon part did domestic was just what? Domestic cars a day be able to take sip horse to killers for whatever.

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So it took me the first knot. How did you just take it all and that learner layout of the plant and a brilliant in a facility.

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The do's and don'ts to safety or the safety stuff. It it was it was a lot thrown at me and one night

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did you know that after the first initial error, I'm here, pinch myself, I got a job and get them signing

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my badge and identification and all that stuff. I got assigned to a guy by name of Bob Castle,

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who who knew my uncle very well, him him a law coordinates and paint them on the side together. Ali area, even around the university there.

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And he, he would tell me stories, a molecule, an alcohol would say no, they're not true at all. But Bob kind of

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took me under his wing and it took me around and showed me how the handle of the jet nice that you would be driving to handle

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parts, you know, 80. He always preached to be safety safety, safety, safety safety first. Safety first.

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I prefer it. If you don't think it's safe to get off LAP situation overdose and, you know, coming out of a job and she didn't just

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strand Harry carried and there's rules and regulations. If you don't follow me, could get fired, had to roll.

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As you know, you gotta do this caused a lot of people around you that have families that you don't want to hurt.

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One I'm cynical home her because they take care of their family. And it was just where I learn the rules and regulations

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in a layout of the building. And it was exciting because it seemed to me like a huge pleasure that

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was indebted to see all the different partially reduced. You see cars as they're built, Robin down a row,

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but I've never been in a factory to that point to see parts just landed a box or a band or something and say,

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oh, okay, yeah, that's what they look like. Funny guy and he would do was exciting. It was it was just I don't think I would sleep the

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first night when I got home. I work a second shifts. I I went home and my remember my well, it up staying with us,

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got up and asked me how it was centered talk for about an hour. And how would you Petroleum Amazon.com scroll down stairs much TV.

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But fortunately, it was just so exciting about and facilitative and make them a lot of people that I'd be working with and what their

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responsibilities were, you know, how much it tell me different things had to happen. Pretty sparse to get assembled

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and get boxed up or sitting down to dealers on a timely basis. So you know, you didn't everything was regiment had to be doe,

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Sir Tom, certain way pick pack, just like going to a grocery store. When you pick parts and put them in a box, you'll put heavy parts on top of light bars.

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You don't put on top of like an array eggs bread knife in it. And it was that kind of mentality that I had and

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learn come from a grocery store, atmospherics. To an automobile atmosphere. It was similar in, in work,

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working procedures, but to context or totally different. So ahead a little bit of background on on sort

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of picking things up and separate them, door things like that. But in the realm that what I would be doing them now,

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there was a lot of different safety issues I had to get be aware of and things that I had to learn. Serious stuff that you

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had to take with you every day. And why it was your first job specifically? How it was called, what's it called? A pig packers.

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And that consist of went to the dispatch desk and say for example, you got you got a batch of tickets. It could be from a deal or anywhere in

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the region that we handle. Then we handled anywhere from New York all the way down to the north Carolina,

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Georgia, Virginia, and Washington DC and Baltimore, Philly area. And for example, I go get a batch of tickets. It could be for somebody like Carmen dodge.

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Could be 25 tickets, could be 300 tickets. Didn't what I'd have to do is determine what kind of truck I

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would need without need a big truck or smaller. It'll pick pack truck and then go get some boxes.

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Build a box is up. So like if I've got light stuff, I have a box, but in the light stuff in the infant,

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a medium stuff put put a box for there and just go around the house which was set up in zones. In your head like you're

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light parts in one zone. You'd have like your bumpers and sheet metal, everything what they call back into the plant.

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And you'd always pick your sheet metal stuff last cause you'd put it in a separate container or

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a rapid separately going round cardboard stuff and tagged. But you'd just get a batch of tickets at in your

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walk-through to facility through to parse bands. In. Each part, had a location number, had an ID number, and a part number,

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and you'd go and you'd look into ticket, you'd verify it and when you picked apart API verify the part to test a number and then you would put the ticket on

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it and you'd put it in your box to go to the next one. That's what you do all night, you know. And when you got all your porch picked,

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you'd looked front of plant, went ahead what to call packing benches. And you'd go up there and up there didn't have stuff like rope and

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cardboard to REP sheet metal or tubes to put your molding in. And you would what you do is pack your boxes up, your tape them shut,

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and you you would label whatever Dillard I wouldn't be going to once you've got all that done, you got to pack, labelled,

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ready to be shipped out, delivers there was a zone. You'd have to push a truck over to what I call the shipping dock.

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And you'd have to know where in, you know, which door, what's on your dealer would be, and then you'd have to drop your boxes off into

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that zone so it would get voted on a debt trap to go to that that dealership. So especially but not my first job was what you call pig packers.

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How I did that, right. I did that for about Telegram or 90 days. Then I became what they call you here we had a UPS line and that

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was more ports that were shipped out a UPS or overnight, whatever. There was a conveyor line

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parched or brought up there. Yeah. Guys work on this conveyor allowing a costly ran all night long,

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part packet ports or want to go UPS, put them on a conveyor belt, asteroids conveyor belt. I grab the package,

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make sure had a label on it, has shipping label on it also. So that I would know that this package is good to go ahead and

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weigh and put it in a zone, whatever reason I'm just going to go to school, go air mail, regular mail or house,

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want to go out and I had a good box will come down a conveyor belt. I picked box up. Hello. Yeah, there's a label.

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Yeah, they're just shipping pentagon. I put it on a scale. On way it will print out to the amount of the stamp or whatever label

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it's going to go on or you're not going to go Rx mail, I'll put it in the air mail packaged school rubber mallet,

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put it over here. We had to distributed or separated, whichever what's going to be shipped by mail. And I had that job until I got drafted,

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which was about two months, not even two months later, boundless and a half later, got drafted in December.

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I had to be there January, so I did that for a while and had to make sure each package you had a size limitation.

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So I had a chain of favelas package that came down ally, that when you look questionable, I had a chain here.

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I had to measure the width and a length. And if I read another row, I can send it back. We had to pack it down into two packages.

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And that'll happen once in a while, but very rarely. But the guys on the line or those are generally job prefer jobs into

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Gaza had seniority and had been pack and philosophy generally knew what would go down a lot wouldn't go down. In fact, when I first got a job,

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they they kinda tease me a little bit and they sit empty boxes down arrow no labels and stuff like that. Just just chillers stuff.

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Just say check me, I keep you awake or stuff like that. It was, it was kind of fun work inner one on Tom Chenault,

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jokey thing that they did to me, they got there was cats that ran around the plant and that was a good thing because it kept

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the mice out need it wants to Canada band when I was in my license there, but they had this calf. Guy's name was fast

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Frank on their forgetting. God blessing. He grabbed his care. He made friends with he graduates kidney Boston up one night.

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And he shipped at box just as harsh, it gets shaken. And he put it online. And it was towards the end of the night,

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I want to paint it white nose and everybody was kinda walking up towards conveyor belt. Nothing that goes in

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and I thought it's come and visit each other. Well, this box come down. A lot of land was busy. So it didn't have

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no label on it and have nothing on. It was set in right. So I sent it to a size, you know, not slow things up. So finally got clear cleared out very loud

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enough to I could check this box. Yeah. What I had to do and I didn't know who sent it down or anything nobody owned up to.

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So what I do then is open up the box because each box had a packing slip. It's out of my head. Open up the box to get

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a packing slip to put a label on. Well, I'm Stan overdose box like this. Sousa open that the the cats all day like so that cats all day, Right.

00:23:12.000 - 00:23:23.930

It screamed out, what a great job that way and I jumped out. Why? Needless to say, in everybody, I just had even a supervisor

00:23:23.930 - 00:23:30.770

will stand back and watch it. Somebody got to him so I didn't react. I just okay. This is how the game is played

00:23:30.770 - 00:23:38.630

and it was ONE five Amazon. But that was the job I really enjoyed doing. And I hated kid draft because I knew what a come back it

00:23:38.630 - 00:23:46.280

wouldn't be white, not me. Cause I didn't had to walk to play. I just did right there. Just like being a male person kept me

00:23:46.280 - 00:23:54.920

busy because land was running all night long. And you Tom kinda went by fast. But it's kind of exciting job because it was some different other

00:23:54.920 - 00:24:02.360

and just walk around. Peer can parse that out, put them in a box and put in a like putting a square peg

00:24:02.360 - 00:24:10.250

in a square hole, that cost of that. Pay good. So when you didn't come back from the military, then what job did you get?

00:24:10.250 - 00:24:23.940

My point. I came back. I didn't go back to domestic At that time. I went into export area. Export area. The difference in the export,

00:24:23.940 - 00:24:32.960

you do the same thing. You'd go to a dispatcher and domestic when you pick to order it had to be done expeditiously because

00:24:32.960 - 00:24:39.950

you didn't have time where and when you've got an export order, it may not the shipping. You've got a protocol because stuff

00:24:39.950 - 00:24:47.750

was created up in wooden box, wooden crates. And you had a protocol. You may have two or three days to pick you or you may get drift or

00:24:47.750 - 00:24:56.090

tickets and it may be you may have to go out and pick 200 offenders and create them up, you know, but you've got 45 days. Do that.

00:24:56.090 - 00:25:01.920

Again, we're going to get you get you get help. Not one person does it. You may have to pick a sheet metal.

00:25:01.920 - 00:25:09.320

Somebody else will have to go pick to other parts and there maybe three people working on same order in that was that was

00:25:09.320 - 00:25:19.610

a good job because it affects some time. You didn't have to hustle, but you had to get parts and you had to get crates made. We had a saw mill in the in

00:25:19.610 - 00:25:28.640

the export area where they have gas guys. All it did was it actually I ended up in a Salma albedo saw her. But they would you would order Craig,

00:25:28.640 - 00:25:35.360

you gotta get all these parts. But after a while you would learn, well, if I'm going to get 200 offenders, I'm going to need 10.

00:25:35.360 - 00:25:44.600

Their head, what they call a 30 crate, 20 crate, and a 40 great. 20 crate was a small study, was a metal. And before you create with your

00:25:44.600 - 00:25:53.090

huge create a new file won't get a 100 vendors on what had put on 10 to get about 540. So I've got all these vendors in

00:25:53.090 - 00:26:03.730

there because didn't you got the pack and put cardboard and so they don't get is doing on a, on a ship cushion.

00:26:03.730 - 00:26:11.160

But the job was, was very exciting because you get parts, you got PIP for Saudi Arabia. I mean, you see an order,

00:26:11.160 - 00:26:22.400

you may get an aura and you see that bottom line, $2.3 million. So you know, wow, when you pick domestic or if you've got one that was $2 thousand,

00:26:22.400 - 00:26:30.920

that was that was wow. Do you see one for 1.5 or, you know, they ordered a lot of metal. They were a lot of mental.

00:26:30.920 - 00:26:41.120

All these Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria. They order a lot of metal. We suspected watch for, we didn't know.

00:26:41.120 - 00:26:50.510

But now also Danner your head away everything, everything had to be waste precisely. In domestic you had a little allowance,

00:26:50.510 - 00:26:58.820

but in exports you didn't because your tear on your shipping could change considerably. Few overloaded a a weight

00:26:58.820 - 00:27:06.350

limit and that would give me a day would tell you white limits on lack of a 20 box should warn dismount. A 30 box shouldn't wait

00:27:06.350 - 00:27:13.610

no more than this amount. And for because they had all this figured out and you head away everything, they had to make sure that

00:27:13.610 - 00:27:21.890

the scales were calibrated. They had maintenance people or calibrate your skills so that you keep your weight within a certain limit

00:27:21.890 - 00:27:28.300

of what your tariff was. Because if you forgot to the dock and crusher had to pay a little extra ship it.

00:27:28.300 - 00:27:37.400

Your name was on her. What's wrong with the plant? What good thing from crusher corporation? Hey, what's really Maryanne ODU

00:27:37.400 - 00:27:44.270

and down or if he sent crates out, it's costing us money, more money to ship Gucci guys know how trade anybody or something like that.

00:27:44.270 - 00:27:52.610

So you had to be on your toes when you would ship an extra cities, you work in export than until you meet in a management or do you have

00:27:52.610 - 00:27:58.540

others absolutely clean. Well, I had I didn't go into management too late. I got laid off and the parts plant.

00:27:58.540 - 00:28:08.300

Okay. I was laid off for a couple years. When was that? That was an 82. Laid off.

00:28:08.300 - 00:28:21.100

They're in I went to That's my jobs. When I was laid off almost two years, I worked from a brother up, get a square root on a grocery store.

00:28:21.100 - 00:28:31.030

Did other stuff, paint and stuff like that. Did I got called a similar event, but while I was in low-power, I got there was you could I had seniority.

00:28:31.030 - 00:28:37.420

I can bid for jobs or jobs that came open in the saw mill. So I'll bid for what a bid to be to saw you at all had to do

00:28:37.420 - 00:28:47.710

a saw would all day though. That kinda got me off the floor, walk around a concrete floor all day, pick a part and try to carry big skin around.

00:28:47.710 - 00:28:55.400

It just seemed like it worked good for me to work in a solvent. Guys ordered crater special boxes. Adu is all the lumber

00:28:55.400 - 00:29:05.300

and stuff like that and it was a good job. But then eventually I ran for office over there. Became a shop stores or

00:29:05.300 - 00:29:17.570

shops tort for calmed and I ran for committee man. I was Committee man for two terms. But in hello, problem overgrowth,

00:29:17.570 - 00:29:28.460

a lot of controversy about gas. In a union officials been little complacent about what they were doing. So I ran for

00:29:28.460 - 00:29:37.760

vice president just to shake things up an Ashoka up. Good. So because a lot of stuff was it you guys are

00:29:37.760 - 00:29:47.690

going upstairs and he's meetings that are supposed to be represent nurse and are not known. They're not making any waves up any Alpha.

00:29:47.690 - 00:29:55.010

So we've got some people went to go talk to him about what we wanted out there to plant things that we are in negotiating, those things that we're trying to get

00:29:55.010 - 00:30:01.910

new stuff. We already had our local contract of national contract is pretty much congrats all waters.

00:30:01.910 - 00:30:07.970

That's where it is. What it reads is what it is, um, is to be interpreted by everybody but pretty cut and dry.

00:30:07.970 - 00:30:16.850

But your local agreements, stuff like, you know, providing clean bathroom so, you know, drinking water and keep

00:30:16.850 - 00:30:31.530

an aura soda machine stopped and upkeep in our cafeteria cleaning stuff like 80. So I'm running for vice president. I didn't get fat for two terms.

00:30:31.530 - 00:30:38.720

I just got tired of people call me at home and bellyaching about things. I mean, it was rewarding job of saved a couple jobs that need to

00:30:38.720 - 00:30:50.900

be saved. And well-being. We've got some things changed. You know, Deutsch proposed to change him, but I gave a job because it just got tired,

00:30:50.900 - 00:30:55.790

people calling me to house and when I left panel, I wanted to leave the plant there. But then when people started

00:30:55.790 - 00:31:01.820

calling me to house here called MountainBike Raj, next term, I've got my IDE any room for anything I

00:31:01.820 - 00:31:11.370

didn't run for office at all. Two days after my term was up delayed, we'll measure this solves or someone that was a four.

00:31:11.370 - 00:31:20.390

So which al-Qa'ida expected to have a day, our Lian and they late 30 people all day. I happened to be one and that was the last one are laid off.

00:31:20.390 - 00:31:29.330

They usually lay ten off a day with 13 that day for some reason. I'm no dummy. Now I was laid off for almost two years.

00:31:29.330 - 00:31:37.640

Fortune nothing. Rather than a golfer can square, worked in a grocery store. Then I got called assembly plant.

00:31:37.640 - 00:31:47.590

Now that was just working in Bhopal are next-door to crash or people think, you know, it's all the same.

00:31:47.590 - 00:31:55.520

And being an individual that work in both facilities for a considerable amount of time. I watch and pause play it

00:31:55.520 - 00:32:06.420

for almost 12 years. It'll work and semicolon interest in my career to make pores plant was a country club.

00:32:06.420 - 00:32:13.760

Looking back, it was a country club because when I went to the assembly line when I got called a pseudo-class,

00:32:13.760 - 00:32:20.400

before avoiding therefore get laid off, there was gas. When we had gotten laid off and a ports plant,

00:32:20.400 - 00:32:29.030

its assembly plant was Hari. They had hard peak was laid off or our plan for a Harley Street. The civil times it occurred

00:32:29.030 - 00:32:34.540

while I was at parse plant, somebody's guys went over there and and they got laid off over there. And then vice versa.

00:32:34.540 - 00:32:42.170

If we were hard and parts plant, they had people laid off in a significant way too hard then for where you go to street. What he's guys would get

00:32:42.170 - 00:32:48.410

hard back in and come and tell you to horror stories and work in a line. You got to be there in a park bench.

00:32:48.410 - 00:32:56.630

You can walk around and you stop when you pick back and visit little bit tall kilo time, which isn't good for business,

00:32:56.630 - 00:33:04.070

but you could do that it was allowed. Much will also provide an integral Hey, come on guys, go the assembly plant, the last,

00:33:04.070 - 00:33:09.940

constantly move and you got a job, you got a station, you gotta be there, That part's gotta be on, that's your responsibility.

00:33:09.940 - 00:33:17.960

Big difference. Big difference. Plus similar. That would work overtime a lot. Especially when they launch

00:33:17.960 - 00:33:25.670

a new vehicle that would work to get to vehicles out to the dealers noted the street. Now the first time I walked

00:33:25.670 - 00:33:34.560

down in assembly plant, I heard all these horror stories about how hard this is and how hard that is. May You can't do that.

00:33:34.560 - 00:33:41.900

Hurdle, a belly ache and from the Gaza came back. First morning I walked out of the administration building attitude when

00:33:41.900 - 00:33:47.930

he's probably got me check Dan assigned and again, the badge and everything. In what department I'd be glad to.

00:33:47.930 - 00:33:55.460

They saw me to paint department. So my complaint department came up to greet me. In what way through to plant take

00:33:55.460 - 00:34:06.140

me to my new area. Well, from the apartments, this illustration is probably about 60 yards. It as I walk out into

00:34:06.140 - 00:34:16.520

the plant administration facility, I'm walking down the lines to Kabbalah, see all these women. Okay, I'll see all these women on.

00:34:16.520 - 00:34:23.270

These are the slides that all these stories I've heard was in my head. How hard this is, how hard it and I walked down to see

00:34:23.270 - 00:34:33.890

all these women don't like cheese, cake or not? I'm not saying that in a second. Okay. I'm saying I gotta be able to do this.

00:34:33.890 - 00:34:44.560

I'm going to put me beside a woman. I'm not going to act like a sissy in R. The first job they give me was born. I mean, you had to pull model tops crossing,

00:34:44.560 - 00:34:50.300

marketing will my fingers niche day that there was not a job and that plant when I walked through the scene, other one online and I

00:34:50.300 - 00:34:58.240

couldn't do I don't care. I turcica care how hard it is, Jesus. I don't care how dirty it is. How mean it is.

00:34:58.240 - 00:35:05.480

I'm going to do it unbent. Fortunately for me, it was just it hurt my hands because I had to pull vital for a day or two.

00:35:05.480 - 00:35:13.160

Did I ended up going to paint apartment, what they called the bottle line about allies. When we ran a woody wagons to there,

00:35:13.160 - 00:35:19.600

you put a vinyl one aside. You put wax on the top. You put the glass and put the bottle on a rose, whatever.

00:35:19.600 - 00:35:28.940

And it was really a good job. And I was in what they called a pool in a poor person was the person that would be signed to

00:35:28.940 - 00:35:40.850

an area where there may be 25 people in that area. Now, I would have to learn all those jobs. Because if you saw the ticked more off,

00:35:40.850 - 00:35:49.730

there's probably five people. You're going to cover side-by-side here or so much on vacation. And I thought, well, that's good because

00:35:49.730 - 00:35:53.990

I'm not going to cite Zheng everyday. I'll be doing something different every day or for a week or two weeks or

00:35:53.990 - 00:36:00.650

whatever, you know, it. But it was exciting because I got to learn a lot. And I sought by learning to more jobs,

00:36:00.650 - 00:36:07.460

I learn to more valuable. I made myself now to backup a little bit when I come in to

00:36:07.460 - 00:36:16.550

the assembly plant from being on the streets, being laid off from class or I didn't have to start at 90 day for us started in suitably plant. 90 days.

00:36:16.550 - 00:36:22.980

I didn't get bring less seniority over some similar plant, but I I still had corporate time which was 69.

00:36:22.980 - 00:36:35.920

But my loo are semi plants started a day, started not IID plus one days and I walked in. My parts plant stopped in March of 808082.

00:36:35.920 - 00:36:45.680

So but us to headquarter time. So I could bid for jobs right away. Not it would do me any good because I was low seniority person with 91 days.

00:36:45.680 - 00:36:55.910

But my corporate comm for vacation, it counted could bid vacation with my corporate tab, which which helped me.

00:36:55.910 - 00:37:03.920

What that means is I didn't have to wait a year and a half to get vacation time. Already got two weeks vacation right away soon as I walked in there,

00:37:03.920 - 00:37:14.540

plus five days casual, which was good. But the difference in walking into that certainly play and walking down at latter day and seeing

00:37:14.540 - 00:37:23.090

all the different ethnic groups of people that work there. Women, people with disabilities work in a symbol on everything

00:37:23.090 - 00:37:31.820

that I've heard up to that point to me was just not So I seen it for a moment, a saint alone eyes. And I'm like, You know what?

00:37:31.820 - 00:37:39.260

Hey guys, we're all just lazy. It took me about 20 minutes, had to walk into that plan to roll out. Those guys are just lazy.

00:37:39.260 - 00:37:47.370

You know, course that when you work assembly line, you do the same thing every day, day in and day out.

00:37:47.370 - 00:37:54.950

Your body has to get used to that. And I found work in assembly line physically eventually, once you do suddenly,

00:37:54.950 - 00:38:02.220

your muscles are going to get used to it. Like I said, my fingers are sorta first day. I realized, you know, the next day I walked in there and I've seen

00:38:02.220 - 00:38:07.600

God talks with people what I've been doing it, that was their job to do. So how do you get?

00:38:07.600 - 00:38:12.860

Well, they should as toughness, the more you do it, the better your fingers will get. They told me, why don't you go home

00:38:12.860 - 00:38:22.520

so your hands are cold water. So I started to say the star film, but, but the toughest thing about working in assembly plant sometimes isn't

00:38:22.520 - 00:38:32.240

a physical job. As it is the middle. You have to be mentally sound to work in assembler. Because I see people do things

00:38:32.240 - 00:38:45.020

in there that I just didn't understand. And course I didn't know their situations. But obviously people drink and error. Actually people snort on the line.

00:38:45.020 - 00:38:54.660

But they were there, they were daughter job, they weren't on say for anything like that or seeing that a lot. And once I got on a line,

00:38:54.660 - 00:39:03.950

I I realized physically after a while. Yeah. Any job they put me on, I'll get I'll get to bought a body shape. But it's how to deal with

00:39:03.950 - 00:39:11.900

the mental part of what they assign you to do. Particularly if you work beside some bias, got a wide and cry all day or a year,

00:39:11.900 - 00:39:19.220

they're just trying to do a job in that occurred several times and you just it's hard to Blake block somebody off like that.

00:39:19.220 - 00:39:28.350

In in lots of times you see tempers flared because you get to people to just don't mix. This guy also work. This guy wants to cry.

00:39:28.350 - 00:39:34.940

And it was it was a tough life, but like I said, mentally was the toughest part about working the same way.

00:39:34.940 - 00:39:43.340

Physically, there's a lot of hard jobs in air. But if you, if you'd go under what's an open-minded,

00:39:43.340 - 00:39:50.330

you want to really try to do it for visual and learn how your body will get shaped to do. But if you go to for mental capacity

00:39:50.330 - 00:39:58.910

at Manoa, do this job. You're wierd trouble, trouble. You cannot work hard enough to get out. Mentally. You can't work at hard to

00:39:58.910 - 00:40:08.120

get out of what you're responsible for doing. You mentioned drinking and drugs. Was that a big issue in the plan? Are a lot of people.

00:40:08.120 - 00:40:17.510

Well, I don't know what you mean by big, solid every day. But I didn't see it to the point where I saw anybody Dillon or anything like that.

00:40:17.510 - 00:40:23.750

It's just what individuals brought in. I'm sorry. I didn't see any dark. I know there were people who heard it delt, you know,

00:40:23.750 - 00:40:33.650

guys would go out at lunch and wrote down a 96 liquor, be known at Drake half-pipe, 40 km backyard or pretty or couples caves,

00:40:33.650 - 00:40:40.700

backend or pockets or whatever, you know. Are people bottle in there somewhere. They bring their lunch pail in the morning and

00:40:40.700 - 00:40:48.620

go right down mixing drinks a lot. I mean, that's how flawed people. That's, that's back to that mental. That's how a lot of people

00:40:48.620 - 00:40:56.720

coped with the middle part of that. Did you know that? I don't know how to say it at that that's what got got him to

00:40:56.720 - 00:41:04.010

mentally to hit a drink or had to do whatever they had to do. Now, there was an occasion when you see somebody drove around

00:41:04.010 - 00:41:11.290

it you knew had been at lunchtime or read out a 96, you'd have to say, Hey, look, there you go, talk to that guys.

00:41:11.290 - 00:41:17.720

You know, I saw him down at 96 and he wasn't drinking soda. I mean, that's why you'd say you weren't drinking soda?

00:41:17.720 - 00:41:24.780

Well, sometimes he was drinking soda but a wooden planks out. But there were there was there was a lot of that

00:41:24.780 - 00:41:33.570

went on me and I'll tell you now, we didn't drink, We didn't we didn't do this. I mean, lots of times when I'll become a supervisor,

00:41:33.910 - 00:41:44.980

outlook and allow you walk by somebody if you see the powder on on a table or a disorder as a line. And then, you know, that happened.

00:41:44.980 - 00:41:54.800

But that individual did his job was an unsafe these jobs because anybody there yeah, we're going to do that.

00:41:54.800 - 00:42:01.640

I know he did it. How you will prove it. You see gas. You what? People in

00:42:01.640 - 00:42:13.150

yellow when people drink a lot, you can smell it, you know? And when you see a guy with a soda can, a Pepsi can enjoy, Don't drink sodas.

00:42:13.150 - 00:42:20.070

You know what's in it can. But you cannot just walk up to a gala. Gravity can say, Look, I know you're doing it.

00:42:20.070 - 00:42:27.560

What you have to be mindful of when you're in there, you have to look for the abnormal, the guy that I can defer it or to

00:42:27.560 - 00:42:36.890

gal of sector in different than the normal react when they do the process. And being a supervisor in that situation, the first thing you have to do is

00:42:36.890 - 00:42:43.200

merge each and every job that you're responsible. Foreigners know. If you don't know

00:42:43.200 - 00:42:51.680

the process of the jobs to people in your area or sad too. You cannot challenge anybody in any way whether they're doing

00:42:51.680 - 00:43:00.270

it right or wrong. My first objective when I was sad to a new area was to go and introduce myself. Hi, I'm Bill Mariann.

00:43:00.270 - 00:43:06.380

Oh, I'm your new supervisor. We're going to be working together. I want to learn your job. Not to tell you that

00:43:06.380 - 00:43:11.960

you're not doing it right or not. I want to know what it takes for you to do this job. So for Sunday not going to do to help

00:43:11.960 - 00:43:19.460

you or make it better, I guess supply for your new work with you to make it better for all of us. When you approach people with that,

00:43:19.460 - 00:43:25.760

sum over what a kiss off, I don't care what you want. Then you've gotta go get a shop steward or have somebody else teach

00:43:25.760 - 00:43:30.620

you that job when he's not there will will pull ME. It comes to give him a break and you go on hazards.

00:43:30.620 - 00:43:37.910

They look, give me 50 ms training on this job, you know, couple of days you learn. But always respect to people if they

00:43:37.910 - 00:43:45.560

didn't want to show me their job fine, what they're responsible to show me. But most people were very receptive and would show you,

00:43:45.560 - 00:43:55.530

but then you had to be very mindful. Well, Joe's act a little strange day. So you can not sly walk up to Joe, Joe, How you doin today.

00:43:55.530 - 00:44:03.590

Strike up a conversation. So if anything abnormal, one-on-one in a wife had a fight or somebody flipped him off,

00:44:03.590 - 00:44:11.270

delved into work and he just having a bad day. And you have to try to try to get him back focus to what they're there to do.

00:44:11.270 - 00:44:23.290

The plant as to what's going on in her head. Menthol, it does keep it from doing what they normally do on a daily basis. That to me is the toughest thing that

00:44:23.290 - 00:44:33.290

challenged anybody work in. The thing that that challenged me more to being a supervisor was was

00:44:33.290 - 00:44:41.780

the women that had children. Because it was it was such a tough metal job to be in there doing that

00:44:41.780 - 00:44:52.480

kind of physical stuff. The table dawn to have had them leave home knowing that they got a sick child at home. He had to treat.

00:44:52.480 - 00:45:00.770

It wasn't favoritism. But you had handled and women differ to the aspect that you gotta know what's wrong because emotionally they

00:45:00.770 - 00:45:08.480

can lose them in just saying good morning. Or if you walk up to here, you don't want a day. What's wrong with you? You lose them.

00:45:08.480 - 00:45:16.640

You lost them. That gives them the reason they've had it broken because they've got a sick child. They didn't come to work or

00:45:16.640 - 00:45:21.700

trying to do what you're supposed to do. But her mom is not here, it's under sick child. You gotta be very sympathetic.

00:45:21.700 - 00:45:31.550

You've got to learn at first. And I've seen a lot of supervisors walk up to people like John Wayne with disastrous results.

00:45:31.550 - 00:45:39.150

When I was on a line and I had supervise work for supervised. Like I always said, if I got it, I forgot on in a management,

00:45:39.150 - 00:45:44.980

I was going to treat people individually, different way. I want to be treated. You know, you don't holler screen.

00:45:44.980 - 00:45:51.860

There's people that most people go there to work and make a living. There is those one or two that were inherited.

00:45:51.860 - 00:45:58.040

Get out of wanting it out there. They're just get a paycheck. They don't want to earn it. You have to know who the individuals are.

00:45:58.040 - 00:46:07.190

You have to stay on the US, use. You separate those bad sheep from the goats sheep, you know, in your life and it can be

00:46:07.190 - 00:46:16.520

very easy as far as manager. But if you, if you just try to treat our biases, save it. Let's go backward.

00:46:16.520 - 00:46:24.860

And you'd had to learn each individual likes and dislikes. And it's hard because a lot of people and you learn,

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you know, they just don't want to be bothered. I want to come and do their job. If you know, nothing and uppercase to

00:46:29.660 - 00:46:36.060

my job, I don't wanna talk to you. Mean it wasn't because I was a manager or hours this or I was Italian or I was

00:46:36.060 - 00:46:44.590

anion or how was why they were, but it's just the way they were. They did what their mindset was. I'm going to do my job and I don't

00:46:44.590 - 00:46:51.400

want to buy come over bother me. But you had to know that. When you had to bother me, explain, told me no, I gotta we gotta talk.

00:46:51.400 - 00:47:00.340

I will show you new process one, but it's, it's how you treat each individual and you had alertness. So why did you first get into

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management in 84 February of 84? I had had a few I was working in spray booth. I work second shift and I had a couple guys approached me.

00:47:15.630 - 00:47:27.870

Let's see me working couple management gas, not a normal best friends was in management. He was kind of push me in that direction. And I had a couple other guys come in and

00:47:27.870 - 00:47:34.750

asked me if I'd be interested in John beer mat. So I felt that given application I fill it out, turn it in.

00:47:34.750 - 00:47:45.290

Well, I got all that filled out very well. They laid off on a Friday, were laid off at the end of the week, one week.

00:47:45.290 - 00:47:56.790

Now do I was close to being called a manager I was supposed to call us up for well, I didn't hear anything from that night.

00:47:56.790 - 00:48:02.030

Friday night, we were told we were told Thursday will be laid off tomorrow night, Friday night law, a lot of guys, it can then allow it to

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work without a demonic. I had a wife and two kids. I've seen used to take the night off on a TBI.

00:48:07.640 - 00:48:16.130

I wouldn't fortunate we've got to work overtime was I was in a dressing room. Take them take them out, spray stuff off supervised game instead.

00:48:16.130 - 00:48:27.540

Put report personnel Monday. Cip for what? To wear a shirt and tie us if what? You will be supervised. Oh, okay.

00:48:27.540 - 00:48:35.070

So that's that's how I got into I started out in the paint shop, took two week course at that time to give me two weeks training to

00:48:35.070 - 00:48:42.580

teach you how to do ta ta ta encourage you to go in and punch Tom clock, did do everything by computer.

00:48:42.580 - 00:48:52.170

So you had to learn how to do a time card, you had to learn how to do medical passage, had to learn how to do all kinds of management stuff,

00:48:52.170 - 00:48:59.730

you know, paperwork, crew sheets and things like that. Have felt different. Reports, morning reports and logs.

00:48:59.730 - 00:49:07.840

Log over to your God. Just general information to get you started. So I'm going to turn a put me back and thank shop.

00:49:07.840 - 00:49:15.850

Not sluggish start-up. Come super. Yeah. I did put me on a similar line a lot. I'd never I never worked when I was in a pool and ever got loaded with her.

00:49:15.850 - 00:49:23.520

Never worked at one day the whole time I was on a line there, give me to sell our line because that's that law would enter an area

00:49:23.520 - 00:49:34.950

no spray booth are or are not like, you know. Well, they put me on a lot. I had no idea. I knew that a silt, a car

00:49:34.950 - 00:49:42.480

there, an oligo what? The whole day waiting to go I was going to work second shift. They told me that

00:49:42.480 - 00:49:52.070

Friday we'll lift worked it. I'd be on sewer line because I work a week after they've gotten mu2, which trait and they put me on a floor for

00:49:52.070 - 00:50:00.820

a week and they put me over in the Donald client and ever they'd ever put me on soil on onetime everyone over there.

00:50:00.820 - 00:50:07.590

So that Friday when they call us in the office, there was 200 that gives us our salmon. They told Frankie that he was going to go and

00:50:07.590 - 00:50:13.950

spray booth which he came out of you as sprayer et al. Okay. They turn loose as you want to go Celera.

00:50:13.950 - 00:50:24.360

I said Are you sure? Said yeah. Okay. So for our left, I'll often show our second shift started out. I started Sure.

00:50:24.360 - 00:50:32.470

Oh my God, I'm in trouble. So that bothered me all weekend. I thought an area I don't know, saw prayed about it.

00:50:32.470 - 00:50:41.020

I want dinner that night. And the guy that I was taking his place was going to was move enough to what they call planters job.

00:50:41.020 - 00:50:52.290

So they put me to replace him. They put me with him. He pretty much had a pretty tight ship and he

00:50:52.290 - 00:50:59.130

ran over there and he pretty much explained to me everything about two people who had never thing,

00:50:59.130 - 00:51:09.930

you know, it was very, very own, personal the way he talked about people that were on a line and kinda upset me that they were robots to him.

00:51:09.930 - 00:51:20.010

They weren't human veins. So the first night they put me put me out, I'll force so where you will land. And I said, I'm just gonna state and that's

00:51:20.010 - 00:51:27.360

where I went to the first operator on of course, come down Ala by our body shop. They come to Ceylon in August,

00:51:27.360 - 00:51:34.960

our cylinder or pan and all this stuff. I'm going to first operator introduce myself, so I'm going to be new supervisor unnecessary.

00:51:34.960 - 00:51:41.390

I don't know anything bestseller and never work this area. I need to learn your job or you want to teach me? Oh, yeah. Here, here.

00:51:41.390 - 00:51:49.320

Here. Everybody on that line was receptors. I spend about five minutes on each line, on each job that night in that row vector.

00:51:49.320 - 00:51:54.840

And I was more comfortable because I knew the process that people went through. Put silhouette. It's pretty simple.

00:51:54.840 - 00:52:03.030

I guess. Silicone, OCL, this, I got ball stellar. It's like putting acyl this. I had to learn each person's name

00:52:03.030 - 00:52:08.730

when I'm bad with names, so I had to write it by his name down what job they did. But after about two or three days are

00:52:08.730 - 00:52:21.090

not real comfortable with the Celera. You know, the people, the attitude after after a second height. That was that was a Thursday,

00:52:21.090 - 00:52:26.520

Friday nights. Thank you. To shift. Shift me every manager, should you go run and

00:52:26.520 - 00:52:32.880

earn more than yourself? You will come and you will set up bronze, Bronze not rods will be there, but he's not going off.

00:52:32.880 - 00:52:42.680

Wife met desk. Now that should call him. I said I don't even live in the area. Should you? Sure. As only motor,

00:52:42.680 - 00:52:48.990

I said you need to be over, Bryan. Oh, sorry. I didn't bring him over there that whole night when I didn't see him.

00:52:48.990 - 00:52:56.130

But they seem to be set up to Harry whom a pull memoir. I knew who was going to be off that night. Three excused. I had to worry

00:52:56.130 - 00:53:03.560

about was I didn't know what I'm going to be off. We got to launch the team coordinator and three quarters there guys.

00:53:03.560 - 00:53:11.850

Have they coordinate a team? Lh team has about 10 to 12 guys on it, people on. So I told and more night

00:53:11.850 - 00:53:18.240

you guys bigger on time because what was said, just line up on owning what Brian over here. They were and they said to Lana,

00:53:18.240 - 00:53:26.310

I just did what they asked me to do for the Netanyahu was very rewarding over there because everybody I'm set to line

00:53:26.310 - 00:53:33.890

up where I'll talk to everybody. Okay, you got everything you need. Now I want you to analyze data are all night. It bother having a walk around the area

00:53:33.890 - 00:53:39.510

once or twice to let people know that I'm still here. If you need anything, I will be at the analy. They would buy new.

00:53:39.510 - 00:53:49.140

I'm looking into work, but I wouldn't bother me. And I had coordinators down or with me, see something, let's say Go get Joe,

00:53:49.140 - 00:53:54.120

send them over here. And I can get him over and show them what I will say. And I'm sure, you know, I don't know if it's

00:53:54.120 - 00:54:01.320

supposed to be like at, you know. You have any trouble, are you saying it in a seizure? Watch that,

00:54:01.320 - 00:54:08.510

go back and pay more attention to what you're supposed to do? A lot, didn't I didn't yell at him. I didn't scream at me and saying message,

00:54:08.510 - 00:54:13.570

just don't look right to me. I don't know much about it. That's whopping yogurt. Look at, see what you've said.

00:54:13.570 - 00:54:23.310

Well, when they went back is car's got background him totally different. He was paying attention want explicitly to the Heller.

00:54:23.310 - 00:54:30.690

I'll learn to treat people with respect. You, you treat people with respect, you get back. You treat them like animals,

00:54:30.690 - 00:54:39.990

DOAC like endless. Nothing lot of Supervisors go through there. Just thought, well, supervisor, my shit don't stack.

00:54:39.990 - 00:54:48.770

Well, yeah, it does. Extinct real bad if he stirred up. And people Yellowstone and people were just like you on that line.

00:54:48.770 - 00:54:55.740

They've got families, they've got problems, they got issues. Respect the fact that they come to work and are trying to do

00:54:55.740 - 00:55:05.710

a job to do like a little like you're trying to do. Help him out. If you do if you do that, you go a long way with the people in there.

00:55:05.710 - 00:55:12.770

And it came back to me ten times for every time I went to a different area, ashes were operate. Now I'm in, I had people are hated me.

00:55:12.770 - 00:55:22.420

I had people 100 and hated my guts. But that didn't bother me because Muslim lightning, because I treat them right.

00:55:22.420 - 00:55:33.960

You're not going to have everybody like you. And I want to be liked or to be respected. I'll just try to people's respect. And I realized if I took

00:55:33.960 - 00:55:39.590

that attitude to work every day that out come out okay. Every day? Yes.

00:55:39.590 - 00:55:47.100

That's where I lived in there. So what was your relationship with upper management like did you have any tensions between

00:55:47.100 - 00:55:57.690

China balance what they were looking for and layer workers needed are well, my relationship with upper management was rocky to say at least

00:55:57.690 - 00:56:10.640

because I had to work with a lot of people. That was once affirmative action came in, It really got Rocky when affirmative action came and they put people

00:56:10.640 - 00:56:20.180

in positions that didn't have a right to be there in my opinion, because they didn't learn it. They didn't know the job because

00:56:20.180 - 00:56:28.170

there were certain persuasion or certain color. They were given a job. Then they would talk down to, you?

00:56:28.170 - 00:56:36.440

May know, and my job every job on MLA, not responsibilities. And when you go to meet and you get blamed for things that they

00:56:36.440 - 00:56:42.470

didn't do that you had pointed out to them and meetings prior earlier when you go to your daily meet Louis, point out problems.

00:56:42.470 - 00:56:48.540

You're having issues. They don't want to hear to get it done. Well, I need your help to get it down, but you never see.

00:56:48.540 - 00:56:55.650

And Emily, I had probably a lot of guys like that. I had it, yes. I hated to go to a meeting with

00:56:55.650 - 00:57:02.280

upper management because it took me awhile or just keep your mouth shut. Let him tell you how stupid you are. Have dumb you are.

00:57:02.280 - 00:57:07.170

How you're not doing your job, you know, didn't just go out and pray about it. Just do your job.

00:57:07.170 - 00:57:13.680

Just do what you're trying to do. What I give you, the tools that give you to do with it. Because my motto to my people was

00:57:13.680 - 00:57:22.950

when I had a meeting, town hall meeting. After we launch, I'm going to give you your job. I'm going to give you the training,

00:57:22.950 - 00:57:32.220

um, will give you two tools. I'm going to get out your way, but expect you do your job. I will be watching. And when

00:57:32.220 - 00:57:40.610

you when you do what you say, you're going to do, the people and not enough point now percent, um, a welter of bus or tail for you.

00:57:40.610 - 00:57:48.300

But an upper management, it's a different animal altogether. It's doggy dog. On what screw you for you screw me.

00:57:48.300 - 00:57:56.430

And I was in a position where there was no by fall back to because I was responsible for the early gas who had a union negative two.

00:57:56.430 - 00:58:06.900

I had there was no unity that MATLAB. There was nobody, there was me or me. You had to answer for what these guys do. And he had answered that these guys

00:58:06.900 - 00:58:14.580

appeared in one here. And to live that law MOLS three years of crushers supervisor

00:58:14.580 - 00:58:20.970

that tried to go back online. Now, couldn't you back a lot? It will let me go back. In my last three years,

00:58:20.970 - 00:58:28.710

There's a manager was total hail operate every time I come out here and operate, when I would walk when

00:58:28.710 - 00:58:34.830

I drive down our part and our car car to go through the Turkish border play. And I would just I would just

00:58:34.830 - 00:58:43.770

like we go again, here we go. It wasn't because of the hourly people. It was because I knew I had a meeting that day.

00:58:43.770 - 00:58:51.030

I've got here all this rhetoric that people will come our office or come out, see what you're dealing with. You know, they look when

00:58:51.030 - 00:58:58.890

a computer age come molarity, start looking at statistics is start to somebody with Eleanor. Which statistics don't last

00:58:58.890 - 00:59:04.920

statisticians, do you know? Me? And I wasn't put in a statistics. Enormous statistics are accurate on

00:59:04.920 - 00:59:11.760

the law and ACASI each day, what problem I was having when I was in Body Shop of sheet metal or what I was having him while welding

00:59:11.760 - 00:59:18.660

guns when I was in patient has had with law spray guns or muscular going to Agassi a lot. And I've dealt with that day in and day out,

00:59:18.660 - 00:59:24.300

keep them my equipment around and keep my maintenance guys happy. So they keep my quick right. Keep them are people

00:59:24.300 - 00:59:31.550

happy software kind of thing. Tech at a deviation in the way they're going to run it or operate and they will call me.

00:59:31.550 - 00:59:38.450

We're still waiting for it to go down to get it fixed. So the lambda B now we trade at gone off, put another gun on a goodness-of-fit.

00:59:38.450 - 00:59:47.350

I had that kind of rapport with not people on the line, the arrogance of people that built a vehicle, people to come to work to do that.

00:59:47.350 - 00:59:53.970

But when I got to the next level, took my issues to the next level, why we need some guns or need some stuff so we can

00:59:53.970 - 01:00:04.180

fix Argos or we need digital at MoMA. It was just like John Paul 2 from a tiger. You don't want here. Because a lot of bonuses

01:00:04.180 - 01:00:13.320

depended on how well they cut their budget. And when when production didn't go right or something break down. You know.

01:00:13.600 - 01:00:21.170

What I told you about this last week in a meeting, you know, here's the report. In your ne ho you know,

01:00:21.170 - 01:00:31.580

you don't you don't know what you're doing? I had a guy though meow, he is there. He was a sinner manager. I told him for two days that

01:00:31.580 - 01:00:37.580

we were shifted cars out of paint shop. We were bond course it should have been going down are parallel just to get our

01:00:37.580 - 01:00:45.310

number are built number. They were shipping them out to trim and I told him to go end up an audit. If you don't watch like,

01:00:45.310 - 01:00:54.780

gosh, ship and downer. Well, if two days later I got caught, his office got cursed out. Redheaded stepchild because you've got

01:00:54.780 - 01:01:02.100

a quality audit that I had the numbers written down that were because of beer store the show to deliver. I told you about their core two days ago.

01:01:02.100 - 01:01:12.090

He cuss me out his shop. I ended up bought a child, a body shop and buy cars. I told him proud, what will happen happening?

01:01:12.090 - 01:01:21.240

Will happen. He cuss me out to me, I'll be shot. This what are dealt with? As many as I could not wait to retire.

01:01:21.240 - 01:01:37.200

I had to wait as a manager tells age 55. 55 on August fifth, 2005, August 6th ahead, 36 years on August 31st I walked out.

01:01:37.200 - 01:01:47.790

Let me go back a lot. In another thing with upper management, 20 days before I retired, center manager I worked for by shot,

01:01:47.790 - 01:01:55.830

decided he was going to send me the night shift because I was given him some flack about sheet metal problems that we were

01:01:55.830 - 01:02:04.620

haven't he had no idea how to handle how to deal with it. So he finally sent one of his gods have to

01:02:04.620 - 01:02:12.380

tell me that I was on the night shift on Monday. Us know not some retard and our toy night one night ship

01:02:12.380 - 01:02:20.360

a soccer too much going on. I saw the plant. We already told me to tell you. Yes. Well, look, J, I respect you.

01:02:20.360 - 01:02:30.950

I appreciate you being a boy us about what? A meeting with him. Well, he's he's going to be gone up. You got I got your message from him.

01:02:30.950 - 01:02:42.830

I said, Hey, you give him a message for me. He did. So I called plant managers. Ohm's law is very client manager, no major buy a new mate or caught sectarian,

01:02:42.830 - 01:02:51.790

a total sagacity plant manager. Us. I know he's a busy man. She says What's Paul not told her. She says you come up, I'll get you in there.

01:02:51.790 - 01:03:01.020

So when upper cheeks he was he's not yourself on how she said No, no, no, no. So what I told him, I said Look,

01:03:01.020 - 01:03:08.970

I'll just told him one night shift. I got her 20 days left. I said I've got things will not SR this plant.

01:03:08.970 - 01:03:15.560

He told me on Monday, this is authors. I said I've gotta make arrangement of things I'm responsible for outside displayed that I got.

01:03:15.560 - 01:03:20.570

Take care amphora, a salvo nutshell, 102 weeks boss, I'll tell you what to gain us. He's playing the game.

01:03:20.570 - 01:03:28.440

I said he wouldn't even talk to him. Here's what's going to happen. I'm going to stop on Wilhelm sigma dr. I call but she's going to give me a letter

01:03:28.440 - 01:03:35.700

on-the-go on sickly 490 days. I will come back and her on her toys, they retire or you've put me someplace else to keep me on

01:03:35.700 - 01:03:41.340

Dacia if he says will put use of themselves as did I shouldn't have to do that. There was no respect

01:03:41.340 - 01:03:52.530

after 37 years, there was no respect. Not that you owed me saying because you did pay Michelle come on come on. In. I could not wait to get out the day

01:03:52.530 - 01:04:00.960

the day that I got to retire. I thank you's thank you. I love the people and earn at work, worked on line with it.

01:04:00.960 - 01:04:06.480

But the upper management theory, there were some good people and don't get me wrong. I'm doing a lot of hard talking about.

01:04:06.480 - 01:04:15.090

But there was a lot of dog eat that's cutthroat up there above ME. Cutthroat. And we had some visitors come in from Detroit to expect

01:04:15.090 - 01:04:22.000

your plant or vice president. They were different. They weren't the same people. You see Alta they list their handles.

01:04:22.000 - 01:04:32.430

They're crazy. I couldn't live with that. Compression. Could get other sounds like you had good relationships with

01:04:32.430 - 01:04:38.190

the people that you actually work with on a line. Thou did you get to be friendly with them outside of

01:04:38.190 - 01:04:47.560

the plant or socialize with them. Oh yeah, those servers, lot of a lot of Moore's law still see now. I mean, we have Lafley Breathless,

01:04:47.560 - 01:04:53.360

which are going to tomorrow at Chez deals guys that worked in my area, Bosch, if we for last

01:04:53.360 - 01:05:01.720

five years we've been together, there's a lot of good people in there. I mean, I realized the war supervisors had, but it didn't give me really

01:05:01.720 - 01:05:08.270

wasn't any different than the got it. Didn't have it. I wanted any better than him. I wouldn't any prettier than him.

01:05:08.270 - 01:05:13.850

I wanted any smarter than him a lot and we're not smart or not what I had guys walking around a lot, had master's degrees.

01:05:13.850 - 01:05:22.580

Hey, guy, had a doctorate degree. But they're what? That twice. So you, when you get to know people individually, you know,

01:05:22.580 - 01:05:27.180

you will realize there's a lot of good people in their head or you want to hang out with other there?

01:05:27.180 - 01:05:33.980

I would go out. We would we would have softball games. Years. It would have softball games or would I take

01:05:33.980 - 01:05:39.800

my two boys would go play softball with these guys. You know, they bring their kids and my kids met their kids,

01:05:39.800 - 01:05:45.260

you know, we'd go to picnics and stuff like that. I've had good relationships with a lot of mess out of there.

01:05:45.260 - 01:05:56.090

And I was I was told one time I had had my guys we want a team of the month award at her. And I told my guys

01:05:56.090 - 01:06:02.940

we weren't able to hear us if we intervene, the Eurozone drinks are on me. There. I forget the name of pleasure on their own at

01:06:02.940 - 01:06:10.780

96 anyway, I sit drink. Sure. I may have to work. I said the autoregressive, I'll have soda sub g by

01:06:10.780 - 01:06:17.250

Greeks, by preacher for it. Well, we want it. Well, I took them all down there. Well, my boss found out

01:06:17.250 - 01:06:27.600

that next day I would come here. Oh, you can't stop. Tama. What I'll do all my time. I saw

01:06:27.600 - 01:06:35.700

this plan has nothing to do with you. And if our socialize of my friends SR, this plant has nothing to do with you. Now, if this conversation's

01:06:35.700 - 01:06:44.860

going to continue about me take my friends bottle of beer, it's done. Well. Ok. And far yes or no, you can't get

01:06:44.860 - 01:06:52.260

a seating chart as you could try it, but you won't see that. So there'll be a war. I had to be auto, Street Philosopher crashes

01:06:52.260 - 01:06:59.010

will pay me a good bit of money. So because I'm much everybody in his department into their court. Lastly, I'll tell you

01:06:59.010 - 01:07:05.670

I know how many of you go to request ALU or how many them come up with, cut your grass under, have a magnet scars come over,

01:07:05.670 - 01:07:12.390

do stuff for you as fast. So you will play this game is play it. But it's going to go through the court system.

01:07:12.390 - 01:07:18.270

So your laid me off your farming Michigan out here. As I told you, I had to deal with every day you

01:07:18.270 - 01:07:24.740

had you had to deal with that you could not be. There was no freedom. Once you become a supervisor.

01:07:24.740 - 01:07:35.830

You are on a string. Strings are hard to pull or did not play the game. I was told one time I was called in.

01:07:35.830 - 01:07:44.250

You've gotta go get a college education. You got to go fish. Ecologists. Said why? School McCune area manager but you don't have a degree.

01:07:44.250 - 01:07:50.520

I said, Okay. What does a degree have with me? Know what I know now that makes me qualified to better when

01:07:50.520 - 01:08:00.040

they want people with the graphs, we're going go get some I was the degree of DNA brought people in that right off the street,

01:08:00.040 - 01:08:06.170

had college degrees now, no. I wish I had a colleague. Maybe I should look to target or did not be graduates,

01:08:06.170 - 01:08:16.020

gas because her college degrees, a vitamin, I put one in our department and it became my boss. And he he would approach training

01:08:16.020 - 01:08:23.610

for that first day he was on the floor. He come down. He gave your changes and change and change issue E-jet as you

01:08:23.610 - 01:08:32.010

can you go talk to him where he's formula to talk about is my acid. You will not change acid. You know what you do? No matter

01:08:32.010 - 01:08:38.100

what or lower under the boss. Boss acid, we have top where you just going to be the boss.

01:08:38.100 - 01:08:45.560

You said you just do on our side and what we are going to fall on us. Okay. I'll do exactly what you say and nothing else on Monday.

01:08:45.560 - 01:08:54.420

I'm going to take my direction for me if I didn't do nothing rest of that day. Next model, we're going out there to sit on a normal day.

01:08:54.420 - 01:09:07.970

I didn't do anything stupid. Dr. Bell now, so here it comes again. Sorry. What can we do to my Coursera? Better?

01:09:07.970 - 01:09:15.350

Asado, you tell me, are you to boss us? I'll sing thing wrong with it. I'll show you some new equipment. I said we will get that your change,

01:09:15.350 - 01:09:22.940

you'll receive a lot of what you should know. Now, we're going to cut the budget as well. Hierarchy help you to ask them on budget. So Li, now that I can

01:09:22.940 - 01:09:29.710

operate a second and get good adoption, not if you look at my gloves, I hear they're not new. We get divorced gloves.

01:09:29.710 - 01:09:36.020

Awesome. I wouldn't get gloves, we get washed gloves. I said I'll have three people that were new gloves because they kept

01:09:36.020 - 01:09:42.290

their hands are allergic to soak that they use they can't use divorced close. I get allergic reaction

01:09:42.290 - 01:09:49.560

to us and I'll get them new gloves. How about she has worked with us aka my budget. That much, Not yet. Okay. Cool URLs.

01:09:49.560 - 01:09:57.840

Well, he came out there's three supervisors we worked for him. He came TO square to stay one night, Friday, Wednesday, Friday.

01:09:57.840 - 01:10:05.580

Friday is the last day you will have a meeting at the end of shift. So he had this list of stuff he was going to cut stuff.

01:10:05.580 - 01:10:14.150

He's he's got cut and he was very much Do you have CIDR mesh? So he gave me a list. Am I? So I knew my center manager was up.

01:10:14.150 - 01:10:21.930

And I want you to give me the space. I love Udacity us. Bob, seen as Islam really asked us, did you spot above where you

01:10:21.930 - 01:10:28.860

get those solid randomness? Okay. You might, if I show to show to you here, we want to know Bob

01:10:28.860 - 01:10:35.210

was a serum and he was, his boss. Soured our way around Bob's office acid and her bow and arrow down. Bob.

01:10:35.210 - 01:10:43.470

Bob came down. Should you gotta boss is around planning on her as well. Okay. Before you got Bill, I said I got

01:10:43.470 - 01:10:55.200

MLU cuts from blue area manager. So what you see here, look at this. He looked at me. She said, Oh, here

01:10:55.200 - 01:11:03.210

I left quietly without drinking. Buddies. Were Rodric. He calling on the phone, got him back in here page at a time,

01:11:03.210 - 01:11:11.010

had pagers and got it back here Asit and Bob's officer, he said Bill showed me this, lets you go cut stuff.

01:11:11.010 - 01:11:20.310

You were predators. They're asking why is we'll cut. We had welders in or you got you got you got use oxygen in all kinds of

01:11:20.310 - 01:11:31.680

stuff with certain area automized error, we run welders for breathing apparatus. Here's my oxygen in half, not Obama, because more oxygen in half and I get 50 cars

01:11:31.680 - 01:11:40.410

that are out of the well, how's my cosmogony? Well, that little oxygen and stuff. Sure. They're not. They can also tell him left.

01:11:40.410 - 01:11:47.730

Let's kinda guy has had to deal with didn't come to me regardless of look, can we do that? Didn't even go to Manage,

01:11:47.730 - 01:11:54.540

didn't go to safety part. I had to worry about to kinda issues. He was well, thought me that we'll want to be unsafe for

01:11:54.540 - 01:12:00.360

the people that I was responsible for. The subnet? He does. Is it a go and affect people's working condition to

01:12:00.360 - 01:12:05.730

a good portrait? It's going to make it as safe. Lot gotta go fight for them because they could sit down.

01:12:05.730 - 01:12:13.020

So what I'm gonna do it, it's unsafe. They'll show to land and they've got a union to back down onsets. I'll say pizza, you do raw far yi.

01:12:13.020 - 01:12:20.490

That's the cutoff of guys like that. I mean, they never work the line. He never managed people who never managed and he

01:12:20.490 - 01:12:29.310

just has just guys agree, I think two or three days prior to that. And then they they've got like 20 I'm an error and I happened

01:12:29.310 - 01:12:36.390

to get one of the simple ones. I mean, they brought some good ones in. But this guy was going to make a name for yourself in hell or high water.

01:12:36.390 - 01:12:43.770

Here's stay in the air it too long. But to accept it at my center manage Bob got rid of him because he was getting

01:12:43.770 - 01:12:52.110

too much negative feedback from not only me but to union. Union kinda got awning. Hard. People are aligned it like

01:12:52.110 - 01:13:00.230

even he was illusion the union part of it and the workers, if made him they get along, that was fine. But when you start losing a union,

01:13:00.230 - 01:13:07.740

fallen 10 or 15 grievances a day, union people are slow down because he's in air. That's how you, that's how

01:13:07.740 - 01:13:15.240

you shake up upper management, aka September, you could argue day in and day out would have meant nothing. But when he started IV fluids

01:13:15.240 - 01:13:23.760

and negatively to people on a lot and a union, then things got to change for the better. That's why along with the union people,

01:13:23.760 - 01:13:32.670

because if you're up in the wrong way, they get, they get on your neck and make your life miserable. But it's, it's, it's a lot of

01:13:32.670 - 01:13:41.400

good people in the US. I will just enter 36 years on male. Lot of good, decent, honest people miss on a host

01:13:41.400 - 01:13:47.960

to just didn't care whether they come back or not, but you had to live with it. You had that's the cards.

01:13:47.960 - 01:13:55.150

Just like in life, you know, you've gotta be there by like are they going to like you? But in an environment such as that,

01:13:55.150 - 01:14:04.680

in the situation I was in, I had to adapt lots of times because their reunion and there's a lot of union brothers, they'll fight harder for no good to know what

01:14:04.680 - 01:14:18.150

a somebody comes work and worked hard every day. Seemed to me like Enough about that. So in some of the readings that

01:14:18.150 - 01:14:26.320

we did for our class, we've read some memoirs and people talked about people who are on the line. You would do things like work ahead

01:14:26.320 - 01:14:32.460

so that they can take a break and things like that. So how strictly were the rules enforced in the plan

01:14:32.460 - 01:14:40.980

as management, how did you deal with? Well, certain areas, there were certain jobs like if you've built up Jerry,

01:14:40.980 - 01:14:49.590

no harnesses You could build in the hand. But what you had to watch there is always that gas filled ahead. But I would literally the area.

01:14:49.590 - 01:14:56.420

I said you can build all your parts right now, but you don't need this area. Because if you build one bad part,

01:14:56.420 - 01:15:03.100

because you guys will build portion initially the area didn't he had a bad part of I was there. That's that's where you can show

01:15:03.100 - 01:15:12.390

that most part people that had those jobs would feel like feel like I can to welding. If you build upside apertures or

01:15:12.390 - 01:15:22.150

or shield or something where you had to weld them. You could well, 45 or an hour and you only needed 400 or 300 for today.

01:15:22.150 - 01:15:27.840

You can get yours done for the second break in the afternoon and you have the more you can feed line,

01:15:27.840 - 01:15:34.230

I could kill a guy, you know, hey, just be in the area or I can get a hold of, you know, over and get in

01:15:34.230 - 01:15:40.240

the car game over Trevor Chat, should you be down here and body shops, you'll find eight yuan. Get you your run-up cafeteria,

01:15:40.240 - 01:15:47.450

let me know you got up there. So I'm going to cheat Coordinator. Be funny. I had Gaza. They respect to that but denied

01:15:47.450 - 01:15:54.360

guys the covenant and Bill parts and take off on you, go down, you can find it. And it only way you can deal with that

01:15:54.360 - 01:16:04.470

is you have your workstation. In our uterus, actually slap on the wrist and let's just dealt with it. There is this certain jobs you could do that.

01:16:04.470 - 01:16:13.530

What does that mean, min or you could do that too. But and now he's kinda because to me, jobs like dad had people

01:16:13.530 - 01:16:20.870

that inspect it to them and you had a God, if he'd build up her stuff, he had somebody come in behind him with a torque wrench,

01:16:20.870 - 01:16:27.180

check these torque on it on his welds of stuff. So if and if you screw and stuff in the hinges.

01:16:27.180 - 01:16:36.150

So by torque, check at Cornell Tech you talk if you talk one good, Then you to go back dome all over country had to check them all yet retook everything.

01:16:36.150 - 01:16:42.360

You found one, ms. Torque, you have to go down the line far before because a check every are from work all

01:16:42.360 - 01:16:48.960

the way back and check everything you got. Be able to show it lots of times. You want to build up to me because we found a bad torque or chocolate and you

01:16:48.960 - 01:16:55.080

had to go through them again. But you would build up enough to where you could take 15 that radical walkaway to

01:16:55.080 - 01:17:05.070

the bathroom or hassle Night Watch. That's, that's what I tell my guys know. Because the thing you'd approach to study man comes

01:17:05.070 - 01:17:13.330

down and sees you not near station. He'd go see the dead job can be eliminated. Now I've had jobs limited because of that. And I would tell people you did that

01:17:13.330 - 01:17:21.620

at yourself. Management didn't do that. You waived your Hey, come get me, look at me. I can build my porch at an hour and I'm done for today.

01:17:21.620 - 01:17:32.140

Touched or you look for those kind of jobs. That's what our wish. I had the defendant who had been off its values and different in a lot of Gaza,

01:17:32.140 - 01:17:37.390

stood up if you always had to 1 or 2, that was like, Hey, don't always talk about we lost a few jobs that way,

01:17:37.390 - 01:17:44.430

especially when it comes down to cut manpower stuff. Well, discuss build up. He's done by lunchtime, was put what

01:17:44.430 - 01:17:50.630

he's doing on this guys get that right after lunch. Let's put these two jobs together. An August day, they're all day.

01:17:50.630 - 01:17:59.370

As we're attached to the Galaxy. Any DK fighter, there's no defense. Especially when Tom study lows, which jobs the browser work because he

01:17:59.370 - 01:18:07.350

sees him and he said, well, it Laura, What's a walk it by supervise. My mom.

01:18:07.350 - 01:18:21.140

I say Jaspers spot every day and afternoon. Didn't yet Go ahead. John Thompson mentioned your name twice, but it's suddenly lived with the layer.

01:18:21.140 - 01:18:28.670

You identify it. I just try to educate people. Hadoop jobs in Watson will have to get a shop steward to go

01:18:28.670 - 01:18:39.450

top-down will explain to them because I can be as honest as Jesus would beat anybody, explain this to somebody. But being a marriage where I'm

01:18:39.450 - 01:18:46.820

just trying to get you to do more, it allows undermines result. I always knew that sometimes I had to use reverse psychology and

01:18:46.820 - 01:18:53.910

go talk to shops to us, uh, here, you know what's going on? I need you to go talk to so-and-so explain it in your language that they understand.

01:18:53.910 - 01:19:01.230

It's not just come from me in the shop Stewart's into play or very, very receptive and very work well, I work well with him because I was

01:19:01.230 - 01:19:08.650

a union guy myself. I always respected a union. It's got its place. But lots of time to

01:19:08.650 - 01:19:15.210

overstepped its boundaries and I don't have no control that. But I used I used a union a lot when I'm going into management to

01:19:15.210 - 01:19:22.560

my benefit also, because I knew how to work to manipulate people to do what they were paid to do with that.

01:19:22.560 - 01:19:29.790

Put in a lot of battles up or gone to war with him. It's time to go shop steward, talk today. I will explain to just go watch

01:19:29.790 - 01:19:37.350

the GAO what he's doing at this time. Eta loved on Washington law, can't tolerate because all they tend to discuss seen it.

01:19:37.350 - 01:19:43.500

I'll do it when he's going to be able to do it. I got to stop him. I'm let you give him a chair. I'll give you a chance for a name once

01:19:43.500 - 01:19:49.530

you go talk to a shop steward. And if you do have to do some lines of discipline shops to our respect you because you

01:19:49.530 - 01:19:56.190

got for he got 4 shot at the head shops to a Chagas to look. I haven't talked to your backend to make forward

01:19:56.190 - 01:20:03.840

to you in shops or don't, you'll see a grievous he respects you can respect the fact that she respect to union enough to go to the Union,

01:20:03.840 - 01:20:12.880

try to get them to help you, to get to Gath to I supposed to do or whoever is. Just a lot of psychology

01:20:12.880 - 01:20:20.070

in it rather than area on it. It wasn't so much what the people that did a Java. It's trying to communicate with people

01:20:20.070 - 01:20:28.440

buggy that can make your life miserable. And when eight, when they would see these people, well, can we eliminate that job?

01:20:28.440 - 01:20:36.450

And, you know, now you do that. Could you put that work on this guy didn't even overload him. You know, the wheels a balanced

01:20:36.450 - 01:20:44.050

sometimes children that some people's favor, sometimes. It's just way the beast was in. There are certain jobs

01:20:44.050 - 01:20:50.250

that the way they were set up and head to be performed, people could work ahead. A little bit more break and the

01:20:50.250 - 01:20:56.730

other guy's best thing ever happened in that plant as well. They did away with relief and give everybody a break it down.

01:20:56.730 - 01:21:07.590

They would shut the land Aflac 15 minutes. More than twice? More than twice you have to do. Because the biggest problem

01:21:07.590 - 01:21:13.230

you have when ahead, what they call a tag relief. That's where each team had a poor LGA or relief.

01:21:13.230 - 01:21:23.700

God come around and give people relief to more than one afternoon. And you got so many arguments this gas and well, he didn't come around.

01:21:23.700 - 01:21:29.240

He come back from break on Tom Gaza walk off the job because guarding come back, he's going to go get the next guy.

01:21:29.240 - 01:21:36.540

And I'm gonna cause more had I had more battles with tag relief than anything else I've ever dealt with in here.

01:21:36.540 - 01:21:47.400

It to the point where one day out to where the remains are told us. Let me tell you people abdomen tag relief. If you go you relief gas.

01:21:47.400 - 01:21:55.620

If you go put a gown a job, or give a guy relief, he does a come back in 15 minutes. You let me know.

01:21:55.620 - 01:22:01.410

Don't lock off his job because you're responsible adultery because backfield come back for day and a half at your job.

01:22:01.410 - 01:22:07.050

I mean, they fought. Mead argued with me there, but they realize what I was going. Let me know that guy's

01:22:07.050 - 01:22:12.810

not coming back on Tom. I will watch you in the next time he texts break that tone. Pip. You check your watch

01:22:12.810 - 01:22:19.020

what your tag man's watch. You synchronize, you come back when you're supposed to be there. The first problem, see me, we'll sell it.

01:22:19.020 - 01:22:25.830

You've got your shop steward and blah, blah, blah, blah, have another train cars come down a lot because the tag me and

01:22:25.830 - 01:22:32.040

said You didn't come back autonomies. That was day there. We're all responsible for the job, not totally responsible.

01:22:32.040 - 01:22:38.970

This is how a solid sometimes you have to put your foot now I can't go through the battles. But when a shop steward here,

01:22:38.970 - 01:22:47.280

you tell like that he sit there waving his flag on your side because he understands problem, mom, he understands that's a problem for me.

01:22:47.280 - 01:22:52.680

He said she said, Well, I don't care who said I'm told. I could not tell us. I will discipline both of you because I

01:22:52.680 - 01:22:59.310

don't know whose law who's not on, just know I have cars, don't have ports on him or her processed on to a more disciplined both.

01:22:59.310 - 01:23:12.690

I mean. That's all right. So what about safety in the plant? G witnessed an accident or injury? I went several accidents

01:23:12.690 - 01:23:23.440

and 36 year the shoe. How let me tell you about my accident. I stop seeing people get hit with sheep millionaire accidentally, you grab it.

01:23:23.440 - 01:23:31.290

After a while there are sold and new gloves gets sold to get slinky drop and she got slid his face through there.

01:23:31.290 - 01:23:46.810

They take care of him, get stitches in him. I've seen a guy cut his hair and on Sol, I've seen people pull muscles and stuff like at Sega,

01:23:46.810 - 01:23:54.470

get hit with a Ginny. On day. I'm not myself out, go into a welding curtain,

01:23:54.470 - 01:24:01.520

forget nor as well and gone. Yes, I'm not myself out. They took me to a hospital. Not seen us a lot accidents.

01:24:01.520 - 01:24:09.780

Are those the most unsafe things you see? There's you're supposed to wear your safety glasses thing we had a discipline.

01:24:09.780 - 01:24:18.890

Most people that run git knees are heavier equipment or or Dr. Koch in there that have training. They had to be trained to do that.

01:24:18.890 - 01:24:25.880

You just can't because you have seniority. I'm going For that. Get the job. Well, you can bid for it, but then you gotta go to training.

01:24:25.880 - 01:24:31.190

Didn't you gotta take their course, you're gonna take your class. You've gotta be able to put pallets opposed to,

01:24:31.190 - 01:24:37.260

you gotta bill back them up. You gotta be able change battery. You gotta be able show that you can operate at D10 safely.

01:24:37.260 - 01:24:45.030

And when I first started work, your crush or they didn't have that had a backup papers on. I know.

01:24:45.030 - 01:24:51.520

And you could tell she was in a blind spot. You could tell if you couldn't hear for when making a lot of noise, a racket nearly ignored him things.

01:24:51.520 - 01:25:00.090

You can't see him sometimes but here. But eventually, but eight years before I left crusher, that was mandatory, that rigidity.

01:25:00.090 - 01:25:07.560

Osha came out allow that. Even the old journeys we had a couple. Here's what I can hook up the vapors to be present,

01:25:07.560 - 01:25:14.280

to be tested that those those that are quick sprint so many hours and had to be serviced was one of the things I'll check

01:25:14.280 - 01:25:21.480

with is the backup beeper. That was what first-day so checklist and if I was ever out in a zone as

01:25:21.480 - 01:25:29.940

a supervisor, I would come upon Egypt. It was back and up at a bigger wouldn't work. I had a tag Safety Tank and I was supposed to go over to

01:25:29.940 - 01:25:36.990

our tag that getting good tech alphabet journey, get a hold of magnets, come down and get that good at detecting sharp fix it.

01:25:36.990 - 01:25:49.590

So, but there were times where people would get hurry on Ginny's was the problem with a lot of people. This is one of those jobs, legal work ahead.

01:25:49.590 - 01:25:58.960

If you were fetal lie on what you call outfit or budgeted driver to feline, you'd feed headlights to line where God puts on headlights.

01:25:58.960 - 01:26:05.630

Are we going to feed line work outputs on hinges? You put two or three pallets in. Good, Take a little break,

01:26:05.630 - 01:26:14.850

gadgets and hurry doing it. We stack 200, three pallets up E supposed to stack them up higher sea level. And Einstein to tech guys,

01:26:14.850 - 01:26:20.490

a lot of what's called tickets or safety tickets. You get three and you lose your license. For a year.

01:26:20.490 - 01:26:25.710

You do it twice, you lose importantly, you can never grab it. You get in there. And I used to have

01:26:25.710 - 01:26:36.810

guys cuss me out because that stop him. Tag them and tell them why, you know, just some stuffs they would say and you say,

01:26:36.810 - 01:26:41.580

well, what if you were out there semester, got it. They could see Given a hit you and you had to go to hospital.

01:26:41.580 - 01:26:47.070

You couldn't work and your wife and kids, they get pneumonia X-ray because you're not working. Other woman gets a little sick paycheck and

01:26:47.070 - 01:26:54.510

I like what you make and it will hurt ester. But you had you had people in there and that's that's where you had to watch to drink

01:26:54.510 - 01:27:04.080

and drive these what I call the drugs. If I knew somebody was was a drinker that I knew there were going to get a get an outfile it.

01:27:04.080 - 01:27:11.920

Lots of time you'd when I say lucky, very lucky scour or horror because he drinks, will you allow me does the job. But for him to be operating

01:27:11.920 - 01:27:20.790

equipment on a call with Hardy. But keep your eye on it because I'm in several cases where guys were in a drink and unfortunately no one got

01:27:20.790 - 01:27:27.960

dropped right off the dock. He got so high that he sought to truck was still there, had a load on to write out

01:27:27.960 - 01:27:36.330

that if you didn't have the load on a republic got killed, he he felt forward that you feel that way he fell into the box,

01:27:36.330 - 01:27:46.610

which was a cushion box, and he felt a box, you get a couple brazen stuff like it. He got crushed with edge. It drove right off the dock.

01:27:46.610 - 01:27:59.040

The good his blood alcohol Omega. Scary, scary, scary buzz is people get hurt when stupid people do things.

01:27:59.040 - 01:28:10.080

That's what's gear. But there was a lot, you know, they've had people killed in assembly plant. The four-hour to get

01:28:10.080 - 01:28:18.860

engaged and stuff like that. And you get caught up. Is I forget for 1 second and we get caught up.

01:28:18.860 - 01:28:32.070

And I gotta get crushed over one day. And he lived much accurate at redo his whole face. He came back to work but two years later,

01:28:32.070 - 01:28:42.180

it look like same person. Always. That's one thing up, reachable safety. Safety first.

01:28:42.180 - 01:28:50.400

If you're not comfortable, don't shut down. I'll take the heat, will have a safe enough shuttle landing on a couple times.

01:28:50.400 - 01:28:56.430

We've got flack from we call it plant manager's office. First words MOM alpha, cause a safety net that

01:28:56.430 - 01:29:04.140

takes a lot of staying there. What Kushi out about you? Yeah. But it's gonna take a lot of their more minimal way.

01:29:04.140 - 01:29:11.640

What do you know? For safety reasons? And here's why was unsaved. You gotta have it, you can just roll. You gotta, you gotta have

01:29:11.640 - 01:29:18.900

a reason to use that. Safety was a thing and narrative everybody was responsible for, but there's a lot of irresponsible people

01:29:18.900 - 01:29:27.080

that work there that just had no inkling that what you try to proud of their head. Let me safety glasses.

01:29:27.080 - 01:29:35.580

Like, Oh, it's thought to be liked. You work in afford a company that require you have safety glasses on? I started people fall. Tom for

01:29:35.580 - 01:29:41.980

safety glasses have had to have a GA suspended because he had just fought me and taught me and plopped me,

01:29:41.980 - 01:29:49.080

came into office with the supervisor. My boss in a shop steward pronoun charged. Charged, right.

01:29:49.080 - 01:29:54.690

If I may, shops to dwell on top, I'll shut up. I've taught myself to a shop steward explaining

01:29:54.690 - 01:30:04.050

to read or write off the rules. Read right off. What's a union agreed to on safety? What she says you have to do 10 minutes after

01:30:04.050 - 01:30:10.530

that meeting and a suspending your safety glasses again. We sometimes you have to do it for their own good,

01:30:10.530 - 01:30:17.610

yet you have to spell them or discipline for their own good, for their own safety. I mean, they're grown people,

01:30:17.610 - 01:30:27.560

but sometimes they act like little kids. They get these things in your head just to another there was there was there was something I could never

01:30:27.560 - 01:30:37.050

understand about safety. You know. Just like in a sandy bush, you you you had to get people where they're respirators and

01:30:37.050 - 01:30:44.130

a lot of people would come in or I don't like of their uncomfortable. Yeah. But you don't want just distal kill you.

01:30:46.900 - 01:30:53.160

This logic, just logical stuff that they wanted to fight you over. There. He's a little common sense.

01:30:53.160 - 01:30:58.920

If you don't like a saddle for this job will get when we don't have to wear a respirator. And I'll find me every day.

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You know, you want to wear if you work for me, if weirdness booths, you're going to wear a respirator.

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If you don't like wearing respirator, sign off this job somewhere else. Hi, Jay. It's only yes, I have or that you just see people,

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you know, run it in a plant. They go they get talked. Somebody, the bell rings to go back off a break and they

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start run through the plant, trip and fall over conveyor. How to cut your head? I've seen people do that or twist

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an ankle trying to run and step into uneven pavement. I see a lot of that. A lot of their staff cut hands,

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people cut their hands on sheet metal, you know, stuff like that. That's just normal stuff. Even do the gloves sometimes.

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Sheet metal. So repeat that part. Can you tell me a little bit about the modern operating agreement, when that was implemented,

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and how that affected your work processes? I'm not sure the exact tie. Those in late 80s, early 90s, modern operating grave it was was

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a good thing as far as getting everybody on the same page working together because what it was was TV form teams. And each team would have responded,

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but would have a team leader. And what that did was made the team responsible for their jobs as much as a supervisor of eight,

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good supervisor, another tool to implement to do his job. And once you are on a team, you're responsible to learn.

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You've got different paste levels on the team for how many jobs? You know that if I were ten jobs and you knew Father,

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you got a little bit array. If you do all 10 of you got a little bit more rights. But if you knew whatever jobs you

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knew and I had a national problem, I could put I could take you off of your job and put you on that job for a day

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if I needed to to get the long run. But what it did it give people more ownership because I had more say in how the jobs are set

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up, how the law.