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And this is the interview for jobs of Peru for the University of Delaware, Moorish Library Special Collections. Yeoja, don't fine.

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All right. So just want to start out on you started at Chrysler 65? Yes.

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Okay. And and your work up until closing in December 31st? Oh, yes. Okay.

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Ancestor. Can you go over some of the jobs you performed your main your main positions?

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While when I started there as well, the second shift and I did is called stone shields. They were metals is true.

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The wheel well, two cars, it is time to settle on a scooter denom going into I wasn't coal, which mean meant that I had to know

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all the jobs in chassis. So I learned all loaded and then I was into scheduling schedule of fishes. We call phases, bumper sticker

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or chrome metal framework, everything now like they are now. They're not willing to steering column my schedule with all of them.

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Then I worked a few different jobs on the assembly line, a lot of different jobs. And I eventually ended up

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in Hadoop repairs, had 29 years. I didn't want to get bogged down as a driver for six years and I finished up being had to repair

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air conditioner, repairman and cease. And then we all did the same different things came along. But I finished about nine years.

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So when you say you are a driver, what what did you do and you did that? I drew to vehicles around to where they had to be repaired.

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Not every chuck it ended up a lot folks had to be with cars. Cars want to do that. Had every care checked out

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or you haven't taken apart mountain a lot. Dealing with repairs. They just don't chelate repairmen. And then I eventually moved into repairs.

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How do you how do you get to double the plant? I was very fortunate I had a follow on to new people.

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And he said I've helped begin this Onuf, their own app. Spring. What made you want to get your job there?

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While I apply the General Motors and Ford coarser because my follower to General Motors, I got the money at the time it was $3 now,

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or one of the really good stuff out of dual internet. Div. Remember your first day of class? Oh, yes. I walked in there.

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It was very high. On the night shift. They pull me on an assembly line or a little scooter notepad know nothing.

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And I had to put to say she has on a hellish there was a lot heavier on people saying it was bigger than what you see now made bigger no.

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Battery gun. It was heading home and I blisters down south, lacking brought the toy in there

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and enter that a shop steward, Kevin saw this clear to ducks. So I remember that the plant was not like

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what people thought of boys. Now, you didn't have any things. You want to err on it because it was high time.

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We had to punch holes in air hoses and then it'll go home. Owners. Have you ever sorry.

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That was my first I'll never forget that. The digit you certainly did. They get better for a little while? Yes. Yes.

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I just put it in my mind. I don't have to learn to jobs and toughen it out. Yes.

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And Armani only one wasn't like people think it is now. A union one desk strong company didn't care. At the time.

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The company then care and you've had supervisors should reveal your God, your supervisors that change the bench late, but yeah, it was hard.

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You talked about your own your, um, your your shop steward, mom. He cleared the people that are freely they got Pell on that.

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And when you start, they had 90 days before we got into the UE. So I figured I couldn't talk to nobody has had to I had to do and get it done.

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And he walked up and saw what was going on. I tore my opinion. I'm a union yet. You do have to be you

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should not put up with this kind of mess. Cleared it up for me. You got me a better pad and everything else. I didn't have to do it.

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We didn't have ergonomics. It was muscle and the oversized guns, air guns. That air hoses hanging over to

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place on the flu and everything else. They changed a lot in Dundalk than a plate. And it is most and 99.9 was meant to hardly any women in there.

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Maybe two or three women, no chassis. So it was different. So there are women then when we started couple it was so

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we could change your clothes in the whole house. And we were worried about woman seniors because there was

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no women down on the demo on Wednesday. Women had a great talk to because they weren't recognized for her work, but they they pick it up.

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Latino women were pretty tough to not uglier. Nothing like big data had to be topics like everybody else come in here and you guys appreciate it.

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Took time and date, Puccio. Now, what was that? I'm a general consensus that he bought

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the Chrysler plan approved having window. Now that you saw was a man's job and that was this. And over time, it had to change.

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It had to change. And to Juan De Morgan's law and women did their poor girl way. I mean, you had to feel sorry for song.

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They pull their own weight. And at the time I walked in there they have semi people going in and out of plane. I can be working alongside

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one guy and but break be another diarrhea. Like I said, I wouldn't do it. And it up to three times a day, give a quick fashion, you get higher.

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Now, everybody wants to be an OT who plays the pre-bid? Yeah. I can, I can assume so.

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So what would you say early on? Were things some things a lot tougher than it did? Oh, yeah.

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Oh yeah, a lot more later. Then. Eventually the union of coffee figured it would benefit them to work together.

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And the supervisors that to clients this ordering me to do everything they asked your opinion? There was a big change over time,

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but it was a big change. They just didn't walk all over. These SU, mutual respect, lot of respect came on.

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When did, when did management finally start clicking stars that are working together? Non-japanese from beat them to death.

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Because they had to change. It, had to go start listening to the people who are doing a job, not engineers,

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not to do here is to know what was going on within the employee was due on the job. So he didn't know what was going on. And there's a lot of changes

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that the mid seventies, I would say in his supervisor starting to become not your enemy, cohort should work together.

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It was a lot of changes it, and it worked out for the best for everybody. So what were what were some of the issues that

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came up that you had a step its effects. Well, zone bearable. Hi lot Tompkin Cody install things and things like that.

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And a system for better at an urban dynamic started becoming the thing. So you cannot expect to

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personally be lifting 50, £70 every hour, all the time. The speed of that, you just couldn't expect them to remain,

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couldn't keep it up in a sort of final waste, make things a lot lighter and easier, faster walk. But yeah, that machine

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was changed to overtime housing improved over time. But I think that working with management and Unit 1,

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union and marriage and started working together have to be difference. And it worked out. And they were when I close the plant,

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They were like that a lot. Some people thought they could run the place. That my opinion was it I always got along my management or way up to a plant,

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My Drive note noon is second uncertain command. I knew then my painting was here to work. Not to tell you how to do things.

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If I have a problem, I'll go to you. But when they told me you'd get something done, they never came back because they

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knew I wouldn't do it. And that's the way I always tell people. When I got a little more time, they didn't have to work.

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My dear, when I was in here was 10 or 15 years more seniority. A lot of guys I work with and they knew how I felt.

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I said I'm here to work, not to sit back and let you do all my work. And I had a lot of good guys work with me, especially heavy repair.

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You have to respect them for that worst two different three different crews rotation of repairing our 30.

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And they were all they were pretty tough boys. Good. Did you know your your your commitment

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your your various me anymore we have zeros. Yes. General good relationship with them. I've never called a union and much cleaner.

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I didn't know. Hello, people did, but I didn't know who they were. They knew who I was.

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Like you said, Mac revenue. Yeah. I knew him. I know a whole lot. Like no one wants lot of people remember if Bob Khamenei,

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because they wanted ability to command and I became involved and I knew for years and yes, he was good. We did a lot of committing man law,

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Shao stewards, lot of precedence. Precedence. I know a lot of people there. 44 years you get to know people. Any of your your your cloak,

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the outflows, coworkers, friends that did any of them ever filed pretty this is regio our grievance.

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I follow 144 years. We had a new form and eight didn't get paid and get what was going on here.

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Hey, just trying to force the Zoom rules. And I work in heavy repair where we all talk and work together.

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Everyone had probably go to somebody else in the repair and he did not want to know by caulking and Afghanistan root of 1 time.

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Other people had their share prompt and I just think it into it. But some people like to make trembled. Some people just want to go with the flow.

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One of the flow and I've never had problems with supervisors. They were very good to me. What what happened, The guy

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the the the form and tough, hard. Yeah. They moved into another area and they let him go.

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He just didn't get he didn't want to work with no. By he wanted he came competitors for and I don't know,

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Ford works that way, but if Sure What we weren't there to work together, that was the whole thing.

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Heavier repair and trim. Got to the point where we had a supervisor but he didn't do know. If we need something,

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they would go to a supervisor, but we all worked together, trim trim shop, and negative impaired. We all work together and

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this guy did not want us to work together. He pointed you to shut up, stay in one spot, and that was it. And how to an agreement Cyber group.

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And any of your coworkers that are finally that you know of or against and they will notice. And all I'm sure they did,

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there's always somebody hashed salted, else. Surely did any wounds that could resist. So like I said, the union was a lot weaker way when you started.

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Over time, it got a lot better. Did it? Was economy waves that come up and down or we're slowly build. And like I said, it helped a lot more.

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Minds are realized they could work with you, Ms. And a union work with manage that things got better. They enter crop but that's normal form.

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But it was weak. And things weren't things for what people think they were. Just walking our collective check your work.

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And the more you knew that easier to jump when before you managed to get a good job and they would watch out.

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I had a lot of good unsupervised surveillance to see. Are your earshot? Form. And he was under your supervisor

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or was he or she answers. Now, when I change my forming or supervisor call was under a beer supervisor has three ways.

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There's a plant manager second in-charge, and third and yeah, we'll have supervisors. And you said you had the upper hand. Did you have a good relationship with them?

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Did you did you see him? Awesome. Now, if we had a problem, he would come down and talk

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to me or or, uh, guys, We have Casie believed and going straight to the source of the problem.

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Like I said, a lot of mine was a heavy repair and Jim Wolf was wrong. I knew a little bit. They call him Joe babies, nice to me.

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I have no complaints. And when he minds you do scientists do something fine by me. But yeah, I knew supervisor.

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They came and go when several more dye and mail for years. This SAT prep. Yeah. I'm just lucky I knew a few.

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Um, and we like everything else you have big because the plant managers don't the Union more. They weren't they weren't on-demand,

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but they dealt with the union. They had problem. Surely I could share grievances, want both sides.

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It was getting his business. It's a business. And that's where I looked at to now we've only in the class we've read things

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about a program called employee involvement. Did you have an employee involvement and chrysler? Yeah.

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Very much so. Yeah. Wow. That's pretty much what we were

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doin and heavy repair, we're involved if we act promptly, shot. Good management and engineers to solve problems in a heavy repair or

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trim did the same thing we were involved in and say I didn't really have to work with Manny smell a lot because I had I've

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had several engineers when I was an air condition man. And I when I call him, they really should burn trouble.

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When you call. And a lot of guys were saying what they knew what they were doing and that they had a problem.

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We call them engineers or supervisor. And that's how we work together. That's how we build quality of vehicle. We shut down.

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When they shut the plant down, that plant was top quality can whole corporation, very top division.

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And we were the best vehicle they had because we had people come for a lot of penances. You people are different to

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any other plant because we've worked together. Yeah, we did have a lot of involvement OR so. They were

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different employee involvement groups for symmetry by different departments. Yeah. Yeah. They call him the credit column groups. Yeah.

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But yeah. Depending on what you were We've on we've read about things that some people proved of it,

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some people disapproved of it. Did you have any people that didn't like employee volume? Now they really liked it because

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they had opposed to what was going on a plane. And instead of just management coming down. So this is a manager really got to be,

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it's a business, but they've really got to learn to work around 2 million. And the men and the men had to learn to work with them

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till they call Teams Group and stay good. Cornwall teens. And I have a program what is rotated jobs, right?

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Answer one thing and it was after several people do his job, the biggest thing they had was S and T. Because somebody else

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had to do your job may could have viewers that they do not like absentee. I have seen that. Went on. When you had

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the employee of all things that we've read about was like, you know, how do we improve this job? They'll introduce machinery and

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introducing machinery would give their jobs. Did did any of that happen? Yes. Not to me. Videos. There was

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a lot of machinery, not jobs. Robots, like the robots, metal finish. Then we have paint shop and it was all robots.

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Data that has special people in there. They have special clothes to wear. Yeah, it really allows a dominant and non machinery change things.

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We had to go to flow and every year we saw different because when I was at heavier repair and trim people, we all had to go school.

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People somebody distinctive school. We had to be upgraded or one of the biggest things. They were not many people had programs,

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hi friends, and they had hybrids out there, but they just didn't sell the way of 10. But we had to learn about a hybrid Chicago, which is y.

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And the teacher said, what I teach you now pi, two weeks will be difference, extinct for constantly changing.

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And then there's a hybrid singers to work on. If you had to watch, which was author so much luck involved batteries, things like that.

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But you have to deal with Dawn. And we all went to school to especially have repairs. And of course we had new machineries.

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A special machines for the high greater than regular trucks in there was different gauges, boxes you had to learn. Yeah, ribeye is always

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upgrading or different things. Learning this together. It's a lot different machineries or learn new line with

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away from the line for a lot of years. But I'm sure they had to share too, because I really use a different color. I revive the leaves from the vehicles.

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Here is the chalk over here to cars. They're upgraded all they don't change it or if they ever promised change.

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So you really got me up your game too. The coolant to vehicle, machinery, ergonomics, lively, make things easier.

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Instead of you lift something really heavy. They have poles in whatever work, do that. But they have a lot of different machineries, handmade, cut job, but piano,

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my starter flight three or 4 thousand people when I left there, about 1000. But I want to shift down everything up because they may

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safety easier and then add they've shipped in that we would sub-assembly and then we didn't have to use as an ammonia lot different

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machine was just cheese. 50 years. Lot of application was Japanese. One dA by law. To give that too

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on to EI the overall consensus about machinery. What would you say? That was?

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At first they didn't like it. Like I said, eliminating jobs. Like to robot should not do welding and I'll pick a de

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la la finished and more exact. And after a while, you really couldn't argue about and paint shop, they had robots doing all that,

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but at first they didn't like it, but it was the coming wave and a headache accepted was nothing really to do about that.

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Yeah. Like everything new people don't like it all the time. I'm probably want them to plan. They need a little documentary

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about the question on some of the, some of the folks at a dollar. And we saw a lot of businesses. Employees have a businesses

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inside of the plant. What were what were some of those light some are more air condition people were eating.

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The contractors to get work or psi guard. Slight landscaping. Polymer, skilled people and people will never understand him was spilled a loss

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for they shut that plant down, loss. But there are a lot of them had traits before he came there and they used an outsize welcome

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to bomb had several businesses. Some of them had daycare with their lives? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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And there was one guy who who have like a hot dog? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's any means solving Sighet.

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Yeah, they are. You did it. They will make and they do compete, did not like if you could turn to face

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the side because it has different foods people eat. It was real extra money. And 71 had that and they have a pretty

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decent we had one woman, a good friend of mine, 0 Shou Xi work 12 o'clock in the morning preparing the food

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to go work with every day, she make decent money. But companies pretty much Turner. Close your eyes or turn their head or soft

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like a little business like that. Some I was self safety glasses one time. Sometimes they sell shirts, little bit of thing.

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And yeah, there's all things solvation. I can't talk about media. There is dirty clothes. Every player has drove, every big company.

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Some Olga control. There's gamble and taken them as just part of it, part of it. Because when you get a big plant,

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the plant quiets your planet. Far as I know it was like to another, a little rural. You could find anything

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or any type of person that you would want. We had them all, some good and some bad. But it's just like a new country.

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You learn to work where we didn't know have very many racial problems. Because we were all making the same noun line.

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And if you were applying for a job, your seniority pretty much ruled if you could not do the job, they give you so long to learn

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and you will go back to where you were. Sure we never had to make racial problems. I'll make sure we handle, but not like a lot of people had.

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It was different. And the link, the women who work there, they run too much harassment. They're received at the wall.

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They accept women. And women really were pretty good. They would give it right back. We have to respect a lot of them.

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But in aims differ. I miss playing. Everybody. I've had more than enough time to retire.

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I like the idea was that people I work with. I like the idea of being busy. And I lost a lot. People have gone boof two different ways.

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That there's another world of assume. When you, when you suddenly and 65 and in the late seventies, how will the racial problems Then?

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Were there any them? I think people are just happy to have a job. They may face racial problems, but as a dossier,

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like a certain amount cannot be turned on when they start 65, 64 because people did not like that. Well, that's what you do here at level

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off and I don't think we have I can't say for sure, but I'm sure there's disagreements, arguments all that it level off someone.

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And one that the racial problem for destroying property or stop at a line for anything. Yeah. We'd have low safety problems here.

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And whenever you got a big planet, several thousand people there, they have to have safety regulations and sometimes the union or

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company has to be aware of it. Rachel Brown, Method. Worked fine. I don't care.

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Helps you to make a living, not to dictate to you what I want from you as well. I've got a luminaire. Lives like a brotherhood.

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If you didn't go, he didn't go like this. What are your why your car it didn't matter if you are an auto workers, that's what you more or man or woman.

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That's what you were worker. Yeah. I liked it. But my followers all the worker,

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General Motors, Hebrew, Thai, downer. Yeah. I don't blazers that many racial proud. I didn't see a lot of April.

00:27:41.510 - 00:27:50.480

People wish they had it. Like I said. Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

00:27:50.480 - 00:27:57.200

However, any thoughts about drugs? A little bit. Howard. Howard a lot more

00:27:57.200 - 00:28:08.750

than you would find it here and there. And you would find drink and here and there. But they were clean up a lot of that in there to drink and they didn't tolerate them.

00:28:08.750 - 00:28:16.430

What AC joint gotten a parking lot. They don't they stopped deaths to drugs like the whole world. You can clear here

00:28:16.430 - 00:28:25.620

and they'd be back somewhere else to get out of hand. But this probably is there because I went into that.

00:28:25.620 - 00:28:33.680

Yeah. I will just name among the I can't sell it a goody two shoes, but I just wanted to that

00:28:33.680 - 00:28:42.600

I had enough problem getting up and launch that don't drool. And we did get up early because I used to get correct for start 53 point.

00:28:42.600 - 00:28:52.650

So we got up early and I was lucky because a lot of guys came from Smyrna. See, Delaware, maroon, Jersey,

00:28:52.650 - 00:29:02.490

girl, cave, mole veil. To get up to three o'clock. I'm just going to work every day. And what diseases, peoples lot of us.

00:29:03.040 - 00:29:10.790

Did. A lot of people come that far as I know, yes. They build neighborhoods and stuff. When when when

00:29:10.790 - 00:29:17.450

the Marshall Plan was a lot younger, they built neighborhoods and stuff for for these guys did and more people came from all around.

00:29:17.450 - 00:29:24.670

And there were several people who came from Smyrna. Have a friend who lives down bill first. Death lower downward.

00:29:24.670 - 00:29:32.080

You should drive an hour each way, every day. He only had I've used an old friend of mine. I went to school. It was my girlfriend.

00:29:32.080 - 00:29:42.710

Do PA New Jersey, new Jersey. We had a lot of people who New Jersey, Maryland, Maryland, fairly close. We have some guides these drugs

00:29:42.710 - 00:29:55.020

Baltimore every day or they would shift, right? Yeah, they dry. I wouldn't do it but I was lucky I feel that yeah,

00:29:55.020 - 00:30:04.160

we covered a lot area and a lot of businesses is folded because we let people do not realize that they use complain about us.

00:30:04.160 - 00:30:13.260

But there was a lot of businesses depend on us. As my gel was hurt and really bay from plants.

00:30:16.450 - 00:30:24.980

To take you back to the the the drinking did because I know they're pillars. Pit stop is right next

00:30:24.980 - 00:30:30.330

to the plant and we'll go over there. Yes. Yes. But they used to drink out of the car,

00:30:30.330 - 00:30:37.940

brakes and everything else and install cameras in the history of really coming down and going and we had to guard their culture,

00:30:37.940 - 00:30:47.000

drink, and you're out there already are suspended DL from philosophy days of work at all. But they stop. It was getting to pull

00:30:47.000 - 00:30:56.870

a lot of people coming to drop and we knew were drawn when they moved out of parking lots. There was nothing that people have,

00:30:56.870 - 00:31:10.700

of course, cleaner trucks, minute chunks. Like I said, they were cleaner. I felt more moral time. People are there to make it live and get

00:31:10.700 - 00:31:19.280

drunk and high and stuff like that. But they were Chrysler were starting to come down so much they could win that stuff.

00:31:19.280 - 00:31:25.200

But doesn't, it's not just Christ, every big plant. I don't care what you're making, what you're doing.

00:31:25.200 - 00:31:31.070

You're going to find the same thing. Here. I've never worked to make planets and I'm quite sure

00:31:31.070 - 00:31:39.380

is pretty much like every plant for its obvious concern. They all have their certain problems. He had to deal with.

00:31:39.380 - 00:31:49.070

You're going to make lives. You'll probably find that mourn it gradually. When did when did they start coming down on, on,

00:31:49.070 - 00:31:59.530

on ISS, say five, 10 years ago. That that lays. It could have been slowly before, but when I started and install cameras to

00:31:59.530 - 00:32:07.160

cover to park lost all they could see it. And I'm sure lots of people did not, like, especially people who didn't drink well,

00:32:07.160 - 00:32:14.860

what internet has to drunken person company, they're working with them and they couldn't do anything. And they were high unknown.

00:32:14.860 - 00:32:25.870

So they could Holger job of people in town. They have enough jobs. Now that you've restarted because drugs, sometimes you have undercover cop generic,

00:32:25.870 - 00:32:32.850

but they would stick out like a sore thumb. They just care what they did what they said they were sticking out that place would notice.

00:32:32.850 - 00:32:39.220

Because if you are they knew who was because beer be or who won in every plane table client doing the best they

00:32:39.220 - 00:32:47.410

could get you into. They worked with a company like I say, every time to union company really became one,

00:32:47.410 - 00:32:55.620

sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between who's on your side, who isn't. And that worked out pretty good for our plane because I knew a lot.

00:32:55.620 - 00:33:03.000

Like I said earlier on, people say, you're different. And we would ask why. If you don't want a job,

00:33:03.000 - 00:33:08.180

he would tell me anything I want to know about is, well, how will go to other planets and they would tell you nothing.

00:33:08.180 - 00:33:17.360

I said, How did you do good product? Is they didn't talk about their job. It was like a big secret. We shared everything.

00:33:17.360 - 00:33:25.360

We did. We just told them if they needed of estimation, we would tell me tell you, we go to whatever.

00:33:25.360 - 00:33:33.980

It was. Good. It was pretty good. You don't good quality truck like we did. We'll just use maybe that's a mess.

00:33:33.980 - 00:33:41.670

So cars are rurally a mess and we straighten them out. And we were known for quality will kill our plant

00:33:41.670 - 00:33:49.150

was it was so far away from more detroit and everything. But we are always known as a quality plan. And if you have problems,

00:33:49.150 - 00:34:00.950

come nor aspirin Australia, yeah. Because the people work together. Really. That's not my opinion. But there was a lot of good people.

00:34:00.950 - 00:34:12.020

I'm very sad to see him. Olga gets a little. You eat, you said a few minutes ago, you didn't know who was

00:34:12.020 - 00:34:22.560

with you or against you. Can you elaborate on that? Well, sometimes seem like the agouti was working with the management

00:34:22.560 - 00:34:33.020

should have been in that general public price up longer going on, you know, they had to get this ticket that and stuff like that.

00:34:33.020 - 00:34:44.450

I can't please everybody. Yeah. Was it was viewed negatively. Management at first it

00:34:44.450 - 00:34:58.800

was manager had their own problems. The supervisors didn't has a unique side. They have the higher ups on their sides. Supervisors, middle one's really hard.

00:34:58.800 - 00:35:09.380

They asked me to become a supervisor. Saw know you're fighting through your life on both ends us a new OPIA work. Why do general supervisors had to

00:35:09.380 - 00:35:17.600

really had a tough they would tell him who know workmen are not LA Times. They would tell her vacation coming up or what they could do,

00:35:17.600 - 00:35:29.030

I think is too much to that. I wouldn't want to be a management status matches. Now, would you signify

00:35:29.030 - 00:35:41.090

union synonymous with management? A lot of it was as he got close. It yes. I think you put down what it was for the

00:35:41.090 - 00:35:53.210

best for the better part, for both them. Better, manage that got all unions and unions got all management. Both parties benefit to

00:35:53.210 - 00:36:00.680

say Did they had to occur disagreements, but both parties realize the accurate assemblies when Japanese for killing us,

00:36:00.680 - 00:36:10.850

they had to work together to get a better pot as well. Look at me, that's my opinion. Now the people who were really in

00:36:10.850 - 00:36:16.110

the union pretty big me out a different story. But that's what I saw. Time.

00:36:16.110 - 00:36:29.210

Sku. You said that you hear you to co-workers talks all time. Covenant, one guy who did it who didn't match.

00:36:29.210 - 00:36:37.760

Our supervisors understood what was going on. Yeah. Tell me who was drowned but when it came pushed to show heavy repair,

00:36:37.760 - 00:36:45.980

you Berg work per worker and working to wicked problems SAW. Or sometimes we didn't have anything to do a lot.

00:36:45.980 - 00:36:51.410

People could see all your doctor will nothing. You gotta me. Okay.

00:36:51.410 - 00:37:00.560

And they can see the point where we had to pull out. One of the things we had at the end, we had all these SUVs to be made

00:37:00.560 - 00:37:12.220

for Saudi Arabia. I'm Thomas. Several hundreds of they're all white. And one of the major problems, they'd have enough tires,

00:37:12.220 - 00:37:19.700

CSU Any kind of tire on. They could. And we had people coming in off the line to line and has

00:37:19.700 - 00:37:26.060

shut down because that was it. They were coming over to work with themselves. Could tired take Tiertha tires want boom,

00:37:26.060 - 00:37:33.080

more errors in your call of several hundreds of trucks to do that. And we had people come up to line, came membership.

00:37:33.080 - 00:37:40.520

I didn't knew you guys work this heart here, David pay it's actually because we would go look in enough light that we had to

00:37:40.520 - 00:37:47.870

pull out when there isn't. You just knew. Had a PWA and the supervisors would know who was really,

00:37:47.870 - 00:37:56.840

we call it rock and roll, when they knew who. They can count on. That sheet is different.

00:37:56.840 - 00:38:05.570

What were some of your daily conversations like? Just talk about scripts or whatever. Sometimes it was sports and then we'd

00:38:05.570 - 00:38:14.210

call Bethe problem two trucks or vehicles. We would know if we had a special problem, what to look for, where manager would come out and tell

00:38:14.210 - 00:38:24.650

us what browsers to watch out for that. And if we talk about sports, thought about everybody used to say You have to have

00:38:24.650 - 00:38:33.480

thick skin to work here. And then it's always, if I told you that you did a great job, guys, you're worried,

00:38:33.480 - 00:38:42.350

is that you can do nothing. Now. That's good, good, good people, people who didn't do

00:38:42.350 - 00:38:49.790

the full job and allow more people to you. If you want to do a job you've wanted that got alongside. And you have a lot of times

00:38:49.790 - 00:39:02.390

ahead and add a kingdom or weirs and trucks. Nef is not the slaves when all we had to change the actual springs since everybody had to do you want

00:39:02.390 - 00:39:09.240

to special person if you're in heavy repaired, you had to do it. That was it. And when you work,

00:39:09.240 - 00:39:16.940

if we add a new truck companies, we all knew that we had to work a lot of time. It was in our contract.

00:39:16.940 - 00:39:24.920

We had to work least 10 hours a day until we get the truffle and r2. And that's what we talked about a lot of times, LUTs,

00:39:24.920 - 00:39:33.670

lot of times this lucid one's called that because it's so much easier way of doing something. They will tell already found to work better.

00:39:33.670 - 00:39:41.760

They would tell whether it would show yeah, we talked about this is they believe transfer cases, there will be a sewer line, feverish crowd.

00:39:41.760 - 00:39:50.270

And I re buys, learned after a while how parliament the fastest. You learn. Like I said, it was like he had to

00:39:50.270 - 00:39:58.030

be closed and no, because if you walk in and say I knew everything, you're in real trouble because

00:39:58.030 - 00:40:07.260

nobody knew everything. And the supervisors would help us. If we need to. We're on a procedure they want as

00:40:07.260 - 00:40:24.720

far as what the supervisor stepped up. But we will talk about normal thing here. Thanks for for for for, for anyway. He just couldn't take everything to heart.

00:40:27.430 - 00:40:35.010

These guys worked. I'm just sent my point is that these kind of work together and people sausage,

00:40:35.010 - 00:40:44.630

heavyweight pair of Trent did not work. They were how they work hand in hand that Trent would call it trim whole we were hanging on

00:40:44.630 - 00:40:57.870

those guys and woman would have one mole and there's repairmen. She earned or respect. She was good. Friend of mine.

00:40:57.870 - 00:41:06.200

Yeah. We just spoke about things like everybody else. Did you notice talk about work, slot of time, looking at it then?

00:41:06.200 - 00:41:17.000

Yeah. They did something. If you had certain problem you had to look at for coming down the line. You had an milling and they would show you

00:41:17.000 - 00:41:23.450

what to do or you had a certain numbers you have to check. Or so certain rooms had to be the same numbers.

00:41:23.450 - 00:41:30.770

They had charts all over the place. You had to refer back to a lot more people think it just one put tires owner

00:41:30.770 - 00:41:40.250

who had that the Rey Ramsey, the right car because lot of times with the same well, we had to work together and that's what

00:41:40.250 - 00:41:50.730

made us were another place. Could not see that. I assume unless you guys like I said earlier, our supervisors nerve bothers

00:41:50.730 - 00:41:57.530

me how to shoot advisor, but he's nice to say here's the easiest job. I've got this guy know what they do and they do it.

00:41:57.530 - 00:42:08.300

And if they need help or need soften these, that's what I'm poor. It was good with some sure. There were some racy conversation.

00:42:08.300 - 00:42:17.760

Sometime lawyer acquire those anomalies or well, a lot of women got to point to network ladies.

00:42:17.760 - 00:42:26.690

They would stain up to me and it will just doners it was in the plan, what we would say in the air and t's about and for around about.

00:42:26.690 - 00:42:40.160

I wouldn't say that it's outside of plant. You because you would get hurt in that plant. They were two women burn their Henri we were ns with a pass the time and

00:42:40.160 - 00:42:49.990

was eager to rude or something like that. They just had to pay, That's the time. And they, when they felt like they were Equals and they were a lot of people,

00:42:49.990 - 00:42:58.520

a lot of ladies equals. He had to respect them, had women who thought they didn't have to work. They aren't real face

00:42:58.520 - 00:43:08.480

you got to work in there. But yeah, women. And I'm not saying before 100, £240 aneurysm. We had a lot of nice women there.

00:43:08.480 - 00:43:21.330

Parents, why? I'm just playing nice? Just playing nice people. You do mind this Hamlet's afraid. Now, like I said, I had one woman.

00:43:21.330 - 00:43:32.250

I'm not going to use your name any lipids to see offline as you repairmen. And she worked hard and she really close. She was the number one repair magnetic trip.

00:43:32.250 - 00:43:40.000

She was a hard-working woman and everybody respected. He didn't give her a hard conquest. They respected her as

00:43:40.000 - 00:43:47.250

as a repair when she was a repair person or she did not want to be called anything but repairmen.

00:43:47.250 - 00:43:56.300

And she was, she was good. Everybody lectures. The more equal rights and aired and people, the public understand.

00:43:56.300 - 00:44:05.950

We then have racial problems and I would probably have teased ballot wasn't taken to be rude and HARQ.

00:44:05.950 - 00:44:12.950

Really. I think the broken learn from that people could be Role IQ on each other. What I'm trying to get a job

00:44:12.950 - 00:44:23.560

done all together. And when understood that and amended to that's where I looked at say, I've never had that kind of problem.

00:44:23.560 - 00:44:33.890

I never had women saying, Well, you probably had to say sexual abuse, but they're just there to work. You need to give them that in

00:44:33.890 - 00:44:41.000

place and role you to save money. And it was a program. If you want to move up, you have to have the seniority.

00:44:41.000 - 00:44:47.530

And if he didn't do job, you're back where you started. So it didn't matter if you're black, white, purple, green.

00:44:47.530 - 00:44:58.230

And we had Muslims there. They were fun to. We didn't, we didn't go. Where does when it came in the urine TO different world.

00:44:58.230 - 00:45:06.910

Yeah. We try and respect each other. It's a single world. Could learn from that plane, are oligopolies, two together.

00:45:06.910 - 00:45:22.280

So I've never been another one, but there wasn't any ever any religious struggle in a new plan? I don't think so. Because a couple

00:45:22.280 - 00:45:30.920

of people I work with vendors to communism were Muslim food teaser and they would tease us back. But you had to respecting religion

00:45:30.920 - 00:45:41.930

is you have to respect humanity. They handle, they have funny names. Normally we call it different names and he's linger past, recall bipeds.

00:45:41.930 - 00:45:50.890

And it'll give me a Muslim. We had in there. We had lesbian. I like I said, if

00:45:50.890 - 00:45:59.640

you wanted a certain person we had we've had people who've been in jail. We had people are killer. Yeah.

00:45:59.640 - 00:46:10.840

And there you were different world. You want to go back and like the back in the seventies was there and he wasn't a lot of diversity like that

00:46:10.840 - 00:46:22.000

then Charlotte and women and law, then we must be an error because this is a job while these women stepped up loud, some, um, did.

00:46:22.000 - 00:46:32.950

A lot of women stepped up and you had respectfully deliver. So although respect you respect them, I don't know if they're that much to

00:46:32.950 - 00:46:42.640

break into their clothes able nozzle, just concentrate on my childhood and y now let's try to get through it. Could've been nice, but not enough

00:46:42.640 - 00:46:49.760

to shut the plant down or stuff like that. Yeah. I know. Sounds weird.

00:46:49.760 - 00:47:01.150

This is my pain is typically what about religious diversity? Back in the late 70s? Did what was or any of them

00:47:01.150 - 00:47:11.920

will normally a calendar that prosody and when he just didn't get into death. Politics. Now and I think it is Nepal days.

00:47:11.920 - 00:47:19.450

I haven't touched religion overpower. The other they could get in politics, especially a union politics of company politics.

00:47:19.450 - 00:47:30.250

But apparently, that's where you have a shop steward, command poor. They had our hands full. Sometimes people who didn't moral worth.

00:47:30.250 - 00:47:38.820

Yeah, these selected here I'm coming click the check and go home. Or to Pete and his prowess at earlier was absentee.

00:47:38.820 - 00:47:45.290

Terrible. People just would take off, work three or four days a week to take off and expect the editor John, when he came back.

00:47:45.290 - 00:47:54.940

Personally, if your work don't combat. That was my two opinions. Understand if people have problems and one of the biggest things is

00:47:54.940 - 00:48:01.090

someone I would get fired, the union would bend over backwards to give up grievances to get this one person

00:48:01.090 - 00:48:08.950

back which would be fired again? I could never understand it. Once, yes. Several times during involving come to

00:48:08.950 - 00:48:21.070

the door, get back in. Denier on supervisors workshops Stewart's ever have problems with the Muslims

00:48:21.070 - 00:48:27.490

that worked at the plan, going and performing their, their religious practices. And RMSE and off soon.

00:48:27.490 - 00:48:38.350

I would be careful where they do, but most of the guys respect to them. Invert prayers. Respect for that.

00:48:38.350 - 00:48:47.080

You can't do that. Mill assembly line or nothing like that dude is safety proud. Did they?

00:48:47.080 - 00:48:56.170

Not nice and they they they had to be careful where they did. Was that just for a safety standpoint or was that that other people

00:48:56.170 - 00:49:02.110

as lawsuit they they may take offense to? It? Could be. Yes, I would say so. The data's still are the spectacle.

00:49:02.110 - 00:49:12.970

Make a spectacle out. Be like Catholics now codon across. Yeah. When we looked at some people did not

00:49:12.970 - 00:49:22.410

like them but they did their job. Like everybody else is progressing. It was all me move some way at times

00:49:22.410 - 00:49:30.850

and it started getting color. More and more. Data was eliminated there. Then we had just started a few years now.

00:49:30.850 - 00:49:37.610

So I'm sure people didn't like it because they didn't make a spectacle. A while I stand in a noble floor,

00:49:37.610 - 00:49:47.360

put them back and they just didn't they spectrogram and we start a new day work. Yeah. But they're they're Muslim Nestor thing.

00:49:47.360 - 00:49:59.920

I'd be like I'm telling you you can do across around me. A lot of times guys kept her opinions to themselves.

00:49:59.920 - 00:50:10.630

And one of the things that Muslims did not like to be. When you've probably heard this class apply not the tears to the Muslim religion,

00:50:10.630 - 00:50:21.970

far as I know, does not agree with that. And it's a shame. A few are being taken advantage of. And it's a shame. Judges people like everybody else.

00:50:21.970 - 00:50:36.750

You gotta make a live demo. I'm going to switch gears a little bit here. Did you ever witnessed a serious access? Various guys kill

00:50:36.750 - 00:50:47.530

their either thought, no, I didn't know that. We've had a car axes in the plant. The comfort of their three you got hundreds, of course.

00:50:47.530 - 00:51:00.940

And some people were quick enough to scale. That's gone on driving. And I was driving in and I taught Dr. When I left, I was going

00:51:00.940 - 00:51:08.440

into heavy repair and I would clean people's plows may require ongoing through our formula. There you do not know how

00:51:08.440 - 00:51:15.130

to drive is you bought, you have plenty of room out and probably in here you may have a couple of feet.

00:51:15.130 - 00:51:27.040

You cannot do that. A lot of men here are dependent on news to know your job. There was a lot of repairmen who put

00:51:27.040 - 00:51:35.950

their lives and we never had that problem. I was active. We will I never seen him. But I've seen cars, wrinkles,

00:51:35.950 - 00:51:43.660

and stuff like that. That company, that toy That's lies near driving. You had to be really care.

00:51:43.660 - 00:51:51.010

What's called a guy talking on a cell phone plan. I got I got the supervisors that either

00:51:51.010 - 00:51:58.510

he gives his cell phone out his hand or get him Alice here on course, committing it. He got to the gallery,

00:51:58.510 - 00:52:07.120

wasn't happy with your eyes supposed to be watching as the thing he had not talking on the phone. And that's the safety features

00:52:07.120 - 00:52:16.360

out with village named orbiters. Lot of good guys who could depend that truck will be right there. That's the kind of people you want to rally.

00:52:16.360 - 00:52:26.870

But there was a lot of serious acts and trucks for people. We have people heard on a body shop pre-teach down here.

00:52:27.000 - 00:52:37.340

We fallow not an action with how she's my supervisor die. Kind of archaic. We've had people have heart attacks, snakes.

00:52:37.340 - 00:52:48.760

We should be carried out for those what flatbed them to meet Huygens was 1000. Recall a bit of thinking or a workflow I saw,

00:52:48.760 - 00:52:57.370

I saw was a god, we have convertibles, u1 to us. He did not. Disconnected or bad advice and it blew.

00:52:57.370 - 00:53:13.210

Cannot get completely out of a hard question for a long time. When I exist. Just Belt course getting hit in my ESL worse,

00:53:13.210 - 00:53:21.430

I saw a third axis here, but it's a plant. You can have. There's somebody always make those safety features all the time.

00:53:21.430 - 00:53:28.810

We have to get two different nursing stations. So sometimes wrong. It'll get your fast.

00:53:28.810 - 00:53:38.360

Yeah. People have been killed, many. People died in near, we've had people cotton in the arena.

00:53:38.360 - 00:53:49.450

Guys have brought gun engineer, the serious content really out there who says, it's a regular world.

00:53:49.450 - 00:54:01.870

And that's that's totally my opinion. But you had to learn to live in air. But they've had guys crushed want to see clients in her?

00:54:01.870 - 00:54:10.600

Pretty bad. Yeah. Okay. Did you ever have on here about serious things happening

00:54:10.600 - 00:54:18.010

with those guys, with the guns? Like did they come in and shoot somebody that they knew they had gone and they got they

00:54:18.010 - 00:54:28.020

got security on real fast. Some of them really went out there. They weren't really either high or really stressed out.

00:54:28.020 - 00:54:39.310

And work the way it was stressful, really. They had a couple guys to both guns snare, take to care every day. Thanks.

00:54:39.310 - 00:54:46.840

Yeah. Now, one thing. Now or they just like disagreements between he's obviously like

00:54:46.840 - 00:54:55.360

an employee and supervisor or both on it could be with each other or supervisor in a few guy with them

00:54:55.360 - 00:55:10.090

and bring guns in there. And some people have been some people they have security guards. They carry weapons, your mouth like that.

00:55:10.090 - 00:55:23.500

But the fact state troopers going to ask you, the figure somebody who really did the coach the trooper senior, I've seen collinear to wow.

00:55:23.500 - 00:55:32.440

Head. Have you ever been in an accident? When the plant yeah. Those are bumping here and then you back up a little too much

00:55:32.440 - 00:55:43.780

lead up until pole or somebody cuts you off. You know that a cup on there and any biases, they have a nice design, they've all had it.

00:55:43.780 - 00:55:52.510

Then they take the truck. Depends on how bad is. Sometimes you may need new face, you know, big thing we would do that.

00:55:52.510 - 00:56:00.480

Heavy blast hits something. Yes. There's a lot of quirks. Like I said earlier, people just did not realize

00:56:00.480 - 00:56:12.890

you cannot fly 3040 miles now and there, you cannot have, it will have more room out here with China when it was very dangerous. And you just cannot.

00:56:12.890 - 00:56:23.820

Everything has been dried. It was a dangerous place because I've never had we had for

00:56:23.820 - 00:56:30.250

this bottom corner, I don't know if we assume. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I never had this

00:56:30.250 - 00:56:40.060

happen while we're warfarin is troughs going to Saudi Arabia. But put it up in one of the honest broker and just drop that truck.

00:56:40.060 - 00:56:45.190

That was trashed? It did drop that truck. I was worried about the guy on the other side putting tires.

00:56:45.190 - 00:56:55.080

All they have is set up so you can't be really close to 10 or a certain light switches on that sphere.

00:56:55.080 - 00:57:02.980

They thought I was hurt and everything else. And afternoon thought major accident that I had. And the great thing was this,

00:57:02.980 - 00:57:11.590

our friends were all he didn't do that much work. And five was Ross is in S we call if somebody had

00:57:11.590 - 00:57:19.310

some serious acts and failure, we've been hurt me, I'll cut myself who hasn't been there. But now I have

00:57:19.310 - 00:57:26.510

one supervisor near yen come up there and said, you've done a real good job. I'm proud to have you as

00:57:26.510 - 00:57:37.090

a worker with me and I Cigna your scares. And he just had to walkways layout or you just don't give calculates. It fest way we weren't management some omni

00:57:37.090 - 00:57:46.240

hadn't really been some really good. Like anyplace else. Yeah. Trying to access. Now with that woman, dwell

00:57:46.240 - 00:57:50.980

on the truck off the lift where you in the car? We put down some were put on cars or they had to come

00:57:50.980 - 00:57:59.000

up a little bit higher. And there's a guy working out the other side. But they have a you have to send the bar. Here.

00:57:59.000 - 00:58:06.840

We're good, right? Get beyond a certain way. The face you could be that close to it. Now, one that close.

00:58:06.840 - 00:58:16.820

But that authentic chalk IVR or wrecked real red with the old quantity was gone and they have no spare parts. Present was near the end.

00:58:17.850 - 00:58:25.240

And we'll we've had a few and enforce wearing out pretty a brush through soft embrace. We had a coup,

00:58:25.240 - 00:58:32.420

a well-done crew combine, fix them. But the main concern was not the truck. They were all worried about the two guys work on that.

00:58:32.420 - 00:58:40.910

Then another guy has now also I worry about him because he didn't he was close to it and just chill it one way.

00:58:40.910 - 00:58:52.070

Your force broke. But I've never heard if that's how the war they were happy to our hurt. But if you were waiting for

00:58:52.070 - 00:59:04.670

a complement, so you get it. I never got a complement. And but if he needed them, they were there. They were it wasn't That's not my job.

00:59:04.670 - 00:59:17.920

Heavy repair and tremors just slicing through our auto workers. You were heavy repair people and that was it. It was like a big club.

00:59:17.920 - 00:59:27.340

But yeah. How was it how some of the other younger people say that will come in early 2000s, late nineties.

00:59:27.340 - 00:59:33.590

Now, even more closer to the fine clothes and how is it working with them as opposed to those with like yourself with tenure?

00:59:33.590 - 00:59:42.830

Well, sometimes they look actually like you should remove goals or we can move up. I know that I've told the family to older guys.

00:59:42.830 - 00:59:50.800

I think they were no longer surprised how hard really what I mean, physical. They don't want to see.

00:59:50.800 - 01:00:03.440

You had to move, couldn't sit around all day on the assembly of art. You had to work. I think one really understood.

01:00:04.440 - 01:00:14.820

Yeah, hard until you have to learn to have sort of species. You learn church and do Joplin polygon guys stand like that and some update.

01:00:14.820 - 01:00:22.780

You know, some are good guys. But there were none. The younger guys a more. They were stopped higher and

01:00:22.780 - 01:00:33.070

everything out there we're trying to cut down. Would you say a lot of them cut it the less than some of the older folks did.

01:00:33.070 - 01:00:41.290

Some of the folks who've been there for a while and we cut it. They they they just couldn't handle it. Yeah. That's a lot tougher.

01:00:41.290 - 01:00:47.650

Nay thought. Now what about as compared to like yourself with somebody new people coming in and

01:00:47.650 - 01:00:55.450

late sixties as compared to some of the people who came in and late 90s. Don't got the same things. We're just starting to

01:00:55.450 - 01:01:05.620

really change to benefit. Like I said, I have fans all over the place. Well, I walked in there and have a thing. And that guns were worker guns,

01:01:05.620 - 01:01:14.110

the size of this model and narrower Henry. And a lot of times you can only work with one hand. You because he's out.

01:01:14.110 - 01:01:22.580

I can get and that they move more to battery powered and everything else. He had to respect older ones in those days.

01:01:22.580 - 01:01:31.390

And I think a lot of people make a lot of money for just sitting around. No. It was nothing for me to work

01:01:31.390 - 01:01:39.970

1012 hours rather than every pair because there's always work to be done. But a lot of people didn't realize, well, you gotta work today.

01:01:39.970 - 01:01:47.340

Come in at three o'clock in the morning star. Well, why don't we start a spherical out going morning. I started 53, we had to repair.

01:01:47.340 - 01:01:56.410

You start. If you see a company, you start cuz you have to get certain work done. A lot of times you just don't have the time.

01:01:56.410 - 01:02:07.840

It is different, but the older guys are on stood debt. The older me. But yeah, they're pretty good, doesn't it?

01:02:07.840 - 01:02:15.670

The younger guys, some of them are good and some are just didn't think they were kind of worked at heart. My first started their us all kind of people.

01:02:15.670 - 01:02:24.280

You can job. You came to work. But yet understand, I came from a lot of my followers and autoworker gentlemen.

01:02:24.280 - 01:02:33.430

So I pretty much knew somewhat with the face and me. They just didn't know what they were facing. A lot of us talk a few guys

01:02:33.430 - 01:02:45.030

boost they stayed. Yeah. I'm going to say I'm missing. I am older.

01:02:45.030 - 01:02:55.400

They were constantly teaching you something. It was like a school could migrate. Kids will like I use Google. You don't know why this school all the time.

01:02:55.400 - 01:03:04.390

I had to learn all the time and I enjoyed that. And I enjoyed you guys You could depend on and I enjoyed surroundings.

01:03:04.390 - 01:03:09.970

Lot of people don't. And a lot of people said, well, I've got my three years on retinas. I don't want every time I

01:03:09.970 - 01:03:17.800

was forced to retire, I did not like it. I still didn't. She knows that down arrow. By a lot of the things we Hello.

01:03:17.800 - 01:03:25.950

I'm not quite sure people who they call it the crisis, your family, on Facebook, on emails like this,

01:03:25.950 - 01:03:33.680

The biggest problem, they miss each other. Someone Wilhelm, Florida and they've all moved online, but they miss each other.

01:03:33.680 - 01:03:44.140

We need you guys in Florida and California. Like I said, it's a big family. It was it. You're black, you're white, you're male, you're female, you family.

01:03:44.140 - 01:03:53.740

That was it. That was that was night. And my paints a good picture because we've had some hard times,

01:03:53.740 - 01:04:09.190

but that's what I saw. I don't know if other people feel the same way faster. What there were rumors of the plan,

01:04:09.190 - 01:04:17.390

close them all time. There were no What we're on when did you start hearing about that? They will close.

01:04:17.390 - 01:04:24.250

Well, they always live in there every time you start a new car. But we weren't. They may shut the plant

01:04:24.250 - 01:04:37.700

down because it's quality. Damn, they put the fear of God into it. Every year. Nearing is maybe a four. We started realizing things are really bad.

01:04:37.770 - 01:04:46.030

And we didn't know if we were honest, a OpenLearn of big meeting. The big shots older, not shutting a lady

01:04:46.030 - 01:04:53.740

because they wanted us to prove a contract that we were learn a whole lot else to plan because we said, why should we approve it didn't work.

01:04:53.740 - 01:04:59.700

I'm going to gain or lose your job. And they kept problems at all. You're not going to lose your nipple and what they did.

01:04:59.700 - 01:05:06.190

And over time you realize things are not happy. Yeah. Think about that,

01:05:06.190 - 01:05:19.640

especially where to start manpower down and you knew to work was going downhill? Because getting closer to the hard times, we've had our share and

01:05:19.680 - 01:05:32.290

we knew that for a few years. But we've always been threatened with close. It always goes wrong. They just did not like New York place so far,

01:05:32.290 - 01:05:43.720

but don't give a lot of tax cuts and male make it worth their while to take this didn't like the idea that ship stuff to us. Dell will work hand in hand

01:05:43.720 - 01:05:53.590

all industry, both planes. So the one I'm what what kind of deal where they were they making that you talked about? Amendment go.

01:05:53.590 - 01:06:04.750

Thank you guys. It won't it was just a contract. We didn't like BlackBerry giving up salt and I can't remember exactly everything.

01:06:04.750 - 01:06:12.940

We just were fighting close. You'll want some guarantees, a world-class his plan, and then they manage it

01:06:12.940 - 01:06:23.500

has or any other threats. Everything else cancelled territorial. Yeah. It was a deal. The contract they wanted proof and

01:06:23.500 - 01:06:33.540

we're couple of us do not like nitric proposals. And they had a big meeting of a carpet in the hall.

01:06:33.540 - 01:06:44.820

We've been there several times. Guilty. University, I would say that we've been there several times a day.

01:06:44.820 - 01:06:54.080

You happen when when you see contract way, what is happening in my contract? A lot where every three years they had a new contract Am through miniature,

01:06:54.080 - 01:07:06.880

copied want he's like yeah. Yeah. Prognosis is read each one and make it tells us that the battery

01:07:07.520 - 01:07:18.300

every three years and he got to for the insurance or they want more pay raises or for longest time we had a cost of living.

01:07:18.300 - 01:07:26.800

Raises. So many months, I think as a coder, company wants so much and we want so much to me,

01:07:26.800 - 01:07:32.220

I would argue that that's when you had two strikes. Quite sure I didn't add that may strikes. Really.

01:07:32.220 - 01:07:40.420

We've had a couple, but FFA and I don't remember too many ill and nevertheless, too long. But there's still benefits.

01:07:40.420 - 01:07:49.700

We want more benefit, they want something else explainable contrast salt, and had to be approved by the company so

01:07:50.640 - 01:08:01.790

that nothing in between union and management are all contracts for your favorite stuff? Yeah. And when does automatic?

01:08:04.560 - 01:08:11.020

Yeah, one nasa and you don't have to answer this one if you don't want to. But what kind of benefits where they were where they

01:08:11.020 - 01:08:19.480

give out to you guys? When we had a window of Blue Cross and Blue Shield, It was really good.

01:08:19.480 - 01:08:27.200

And in words, I win. If I worked at Chrysler, visit your comfort level co-owners, everything.

01:08:27.200 - 01:08:39.460

The pay raise because usually got to 3% a year. And that's not fair. Sometimes, like I said, ours,

01:08:39.460 - 01:08:48.090

you have to work heavy repair has a different contract on a line because when they were launching a truck or Corps,

01:08:48.090 - 01:08:54.830

Heather pair knew they were required to beat or at least 10 hours a day and you could take one day off.

01:08:54.830 - 01:09:03.110

They need to have you there for repairs. That was part of our contract, this flu things like that. Then we had a compromise.

01:09:03.110 - 01:09:15.450

La Times, LA Times or local, international and local contract. I can't think of anything off the top my head.

01:09:15.450 - 01:09:24.980

But it may be about benefits and raises, processes or how they want to do certain things. The union knew it

01:09:24.980 - 01:09:36.010

they would AS board you want. But I got to the point too much. The one thing people didn't need it. I mean, they take anything they could,

01:09:36.010 - 01:09:47.550

they always want more money. One time when Christ was gone down here, we'll get you a lot of money and we have stock options to back.

01:09:47.550 - 01:10:00.480

But you need always stepped up to keep company go during this time. So whenever you heard rumors that was the one who kept the plant alive.

01:10:00.480 - 01:10:13.150

Mostly tried to be a try Let's backup, support management, things like that. But that's your job to keep the job there. Now, the local wouldn't they

01:10:13.150 - 01:10:23.140

would fight with corporate in Michigan or local union with fine lines right here. There is a contract,

01:10:23.140 - 01:10:33.280

overall contract with HDL of all plants and Eric play it has Look, there are little contract with your management where they were to contract.

01:10:33.280 - 01:10:48.570

Now, what about the era? Parting benefits are benefits they give you as it will close and well, they gave me a choice of and they would

01:10:48.570 - 01:10:55.070

pay to have you moved to Detroit, Michigan or something like that? Well, first of all, I'm going to start all over again.

01:10:55.070 - 01:10:59.650

And I didn't want to start. I don't like that. Cold climates. There's nothing wrong with it,

01:10:59.650 - 01:11:08.460

but I just don't like us pretty far away most my family's here. You could do that or you could retire.

01:11:08.460 - 01:11:17.350

They will pay you. If you depend on how many years old you were and how close they are to retirement,

01:11:17.350 - 01:11:26.260

they would waive or sometimes the timeline between IT and OT give me your retirement. In everybody and a lot

01:11:26.260 - 01:11:37.210

of people accepted retirement. I got 70000 dollars and because of my shirt, I got Medicare and Blue Cross. Plus I going to pay you and effort.

01:11:37.210 - 01:11:47.020

I'm going Medicare and Blue Cross with some few benefits are lost and the trough Eichler eyeglasses and dental we lost.

01:11:47.020 - 01:11:53.320

But I didn't want to move where most MAC values here, I would be lost up there. They did the best he could and

01:11:53.320 - 01:12:01.630

then the people who didn't have that much time, a 520 years. Yeah, I believe they gave them each a $100 thousand,

01:12:01.630 - 01:12:12.450

but they gave up their claims to penetrates and they will add new pension. They just plain bottom now, I have a few friends like that.

01:12:12.450 - 01:12:23.500

Or they are or are they making out any worse than you think they may have if they didn't do that every year before

01:12:23.500 - 01:12:31.900

you even get any benefits. And long just took it because there are some have 15 year, 20 year depending on

01:12:31.900 - 01:12:41.400

how it was a personal choice. If they felt their drone good. I'm happy. Yeah, definitely.

01:12:41.400 - 01:12:47.410

Person two. I didn't have a truth. I had to retire. I just did. Yeah.

01:12:47.410 - 01:13:05.050

I started playing. But I will have to sell the house and Nino or to have housing going south. Now, VM in a female who was going to do up

01:13:05.050 - 01:13:13.120

to Michigan and to Detroit where they guaranteed a job out there? I believe so. Okay. Cool.

01:13:13.120 - 01:13:18.820

I think they produced their hotel where they can go and take a choice. I think they paid him so much money,

01:13:18.820 - 01:13:27.750

the move for travelling expenses and all that. Okay. I don't know if it's fallen off there now.

01:13:27.750 - 01:13:38.740

I'm out a while back. And interior stuff, we do have Kreutzer because there's colon to scoop. It tells us what's going on in the plan

01:13:38.740 - 01:13:49.090

with phi odd and cars come in and stuff like that. We're still in touch with them. There's tell us what your core shell,

01:13:49.090 - 01:13:58.480

real good females fly and more, Christ or peacekeepers in someone who not forgotten to set up for kindness.

01:13:58.480 - 01:14:07.810

It's good. Yeah. Now, the, the information, stuff like that and you get dy dt that from other friends are still in

01:14:07.810 - 01:14:17.590

company or does the company. But let me say that very bottom. You have to pitch email on a list to hearing on and they send it out.

01:14:17.590 - 01:14:24.670

Just information from the scoop may just keep you up, break because remember, sometimes they want us to buy our own cars.

01:14:24.670 - 01:14:30.160

They can let us know all of the things that was going on. Then there's another one called Christ your family.

01:14:30.160 - 01:14:39.340

That's more Facebook. So that's roadmap, different people to spread or people middle-class jobs up an Olympic,

01:14:39.340 - 01:14:48.880

a job opening. Johnson Controls. They centered Java 5, our own lives. Rather look online, another pattern,

01:14:48.880 - 01:14:57.130

but they give us news, heads up or somebody died. Or they tell us of a power plant. Birthday's coming up, things

01:14:57.130 - 01:15:08.530

like it's a nice thing. And now my supervisors, we get together. They're not super bus carriages, people who were dead,

01:15:08.530 - 01:15:16.960

Christ or I walked in and we get again, as I said, this map for this, my form and that must feel secure leaf and it shall not

01:15:16.960 - 01:15:24.410

nothing been well, I'm not your boss. I'm just another guy. And didn't they accepted like that? We all know that they had a job.

01:15:24.410 - 01:15:35.430

Didn't we had jumped down indigenous people. And I know a few are more likely to get a resume and this is what

01:15:35.430 - 01:15:43.780

can this guy verify? Thanks. I can't find nowadays people their own mood. I know I be I think a couple of people

01:15:43.780 - 01:15:55.710

I know that now. Okay. Tell me at the document touch with people that, you know, online.

01:15:55.710 - 01:16:05.210

Yeah. I got to supervisors down long-neck routine where n is not if man is down Sussex County there a beach

01:16:05.210 - 01:16:13.870

patronized, got to supervise. Did I know the tenor now full time? I always got along. Month must supervise them.

01:16:13.870 - 01:16:22.600

Lungs, the bigger boss now. But just people now. Some homework. I'm looking for work.

01:16:22.600 - 01:16:32.060

At this point, somebody keep me busy, terrorist and help us. But friend Eduardo's DO I send the tire sitting in a house?

01:16:32.970 - 01:16:40.420

And I'm not here to Zach because I used to be, yes. Because I spill walk all day long and I'm not walking.

01:16:40.420 - 01:16:58.140

Nothing close to choose it. Doctors cation here. Did sitting here. Right now you're you're

01:16:58.140 - 01:17:08.040

trying to find some just keep you busy in something like some decent money. I worked for two hours and hours trying to find something.

01:17:08.040 - 01:17:16.700

A lot of SAR yeah. Just something to keep you busy because all you're like me to work in getting up early work along days now.

01:17:16.700 - 01:17:25.260

I've got nothing to diff Yeah. She goes to Florida, um, once in awhile. Well, at least a couple of times here and I'm trying to go back.

01:17:25.260 - 01:17:38.280

I gotta somehow Texas Zika law. Yes, algorithm Florida. Whoops, why would I don't know what's wrong? That's it. Yeah.

01:17:38.280 - 01:17:43.180

And we get together, we have parts. This is every once while we see it, they're tall. But after molecule it's like you're,

01:17:43.180 - 01:17:54.120

rehashing the same thing. It gets a little boring. But anything else you need to know? Early on when when you

01:17:54.120 - 01:17:59.960

when you How old were you when you first started? Ten days before I turned 21. Okay.

01:17:59.960 - 01:18:10.350

Did you have a family, them? Yeah. I had a baby on the way. Yeah. Yeah, I have a family then.

01:18:10.350 - 01:18:20.380

How was how was you working in the plan affecting the family? They've picked on? Because we put on It's kind of divorce three,

01:18:20.380 - 01:18:34.630

correct? Some of accepted. So to put a wildlife didn't have player. Yes. There's a lot of divorce people or 18 months, but our low-power company's potential

01:18:34.630 - 01:18:50.170

want to push people there did was was that he had three divorces. Was it because of a plan or maybe issues that came up?

01:18:50.170 - 01:19:00.670

Could be anything in that dedicate to marriage because you were married to the plant near mine. Didn't like it.

01:19:00.670 - 01:19:11.200

One more. It's a catch-22. You work alone, hours, support your family, and then they'll think that you're not there.

01:19:11.200 - 01:19:18.940

And then I'll avoid Once you there, we gotta work to support what you want in a lot of them just don't want to hear or understand it.

01:19:18.940 - 01:19:31.810

But my ex-wives all work too, but still things happen. How many kids do you have? I got three and I got seven grandchildren.

01:19:31.810 - 01:19:41.620

Did it did it there is a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I have a good rapport with my daughter. My youngest.

01:19:41.620 - 01:19:51.710

I had to tobacco Jeff, my daughter Roosevelt, and she's so much like me. She said, my daughter, hardworking girl,

01:19:51.710 - 01:20:00.980

she's married, and my oldest son and texts as I told him at least once or twice a month. And he's working on a timeline and we talk all the time.

01:20:00.980 - 01:20:11.110

And now my grandchildren I got along good with my grandchildren. Stemmer up? Absolutely. What's your major? History?

01:20:11.110 - 01:20:18.070

My majors history and a minor in classes. Oh, really? That's pretty full. What your status?

01:20:18.070 - 01:20:28.930

Sophomore, junior, senior, graduating in a month or so. They sat with your bachelor's yet. And you're going to continue at a brain.

01:20:28.930 - 01:20:38.380

Wow, I'd like to continue. I'm going to apply for Teach for America and do that. And then suddenly pop coexists

01:20:38.380 - 01:20:46.380

to areas that are, Yeah, Teach for America is a, it's a it's a program where any graduating

01:20:46.380 - 01:20:56.020

anyone graduating with a bachelor's degree, they can work life or their destination. They go into a school and they teach for up to two years.

01:20:56.020 - 01:21:05.610

Then get professional experience, THE experiences I've had, and then you can also get compensated as far as your full length

01:21:05.610 - 01:21:12.840

one I know, yes, that's true. That's very that's very iconic tech for 11 years. Yeah, yeah.

01:21:12.840 - 01:21:23.620

So die on like you to keep them pretty probably makes a lot of preparation and interesting project. How many people, what are

01:21:23.620 - 01:21:32.620

the parameters of the project? We have a belt, 12 kids in the class on behalf of my grad students.

01:21:32.620 - 01:21:45.540

They just, you know, here's here's some numbers. Conduct these people and see what you can have its own story.

01:21:45.540 - 01:21:59.570

And then how many people are you feeling? What, Josh, thanks to just jump here. Touches trouble. You heard this story a long, long time.

01:21:59.730 - 01:22:08.800

But I tried to tell him that people, a lot of people didn't understand the older industries like it another life on another world.

01:22:08.800 - 01:22:19.180

But there wasn't that much racial, proud, too much time, yeah, Discrimination Against Women, Religious in with Muslim side

01:22:19.180 - 01:22:26.950

of c Then from where a lot of the work to learn from auto plants or writer plants. Causality.

01:22:26.950 - 01:22:38.020

It's a cloistered community in many ways and suddenly come then. Yes, you news. I hate to stop.

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It got through to assume shear force retired health problems once you sort of, you know. But yeah, She's getting

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those cases ought to work. Diana, dynamic duo. Early on when your kids were younger, how how how was it then?

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That bit me, my oldest son. She got divorced when he got to he he knows so much. I try to keep touch women every time we did.

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Now we do a lie. I love children. They they didn't need anything. The one they had to work.

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But when that baby with the kids, the y's women not the women, cannot understand why you would rather go to Washington,

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stay home while trying to put food on the table and a roof over your head. And if you work and more over time, you can have all the goodies.

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You can't, you can't have those. Some women accepted some lessons that a lot of guys who I know had survived.

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And I see how lucky you are. You have to respect him for that. Hi. I'm sure they had hard times too.

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But my kids and one since insurance runs, electrician sudden texts as a contractor. So the holder and what was it like? Working in a college town

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at a plant like that. Melanin, I know. You said college students come in here and so I'm a part-time Hell, yeah.

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Probably had a lot. They would come in because a lot of people would take vacations. That command prompt never had it.

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I don't know. I was expecting a little differently. I'm just depends on people to stop. Pretty good.

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You can respect any education yet they pay for their work for the hyperspectral. Even not, not even the ones that came in

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and worked with just outside the plant. Kingdom, do anything that will my PCR for something. Either adding violin could

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be our budget, interaction. College. She got college, that idea, right? Eyelid or a prompt. That's cool. If you could say,

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Did you learn something from your time, we're going to Chrysler. Learn anything we're going to Chrysler and important life lesson that you learn.

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Recommend trying to treat people like you grow the tree. That's battle, I would say the best. And every bijective. I would say.

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That's pretty much what I've said. Oh, all right. So true. Anything other than unborn life lessons?

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New learn different skills you already know you learned on, but you learn different skills. Being at all and worker to bomb.

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You can apply nowadays, but it's not as technical and more people realize. Like I said, when I went to school several

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times to upgrade my learning abilities in there. But that's why I'm not naive. They, they, they've essentially

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does the same thing with school and stuff like that. They were had people come into the playground and one good at school, right?

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School. And I would have class to teach you what they want you to know. And LA Times would be first, like I said,

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I spent two weeks learn about hybrid trucks and and it was changed. So fancy said, Oh, no, no longer teaches

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because it's going to be all different. We had thick books to learn and we had referral books they use. And what were they had.

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They would taste different chains and trucks. You had to know all this. And it'll just one person at a time. You could have 2000 people

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in the room zinc ion with you. I was not good. So my talk and I now have to have pain zoonotic.

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Yeah, Good bye up that hands on people. But they did have hands-on people. They did go the extra mile to have you understand what was going on,

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price or do any work on the hybrid truck and pull this wire and it could burn you to death. You had to know and they've been pretty good.

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I now would they would they pull you off the floor for that? Yeah. Trying to shut off the floor.

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They have seen and as a pair they would have some like covering your job. But then yeah, they would have smashed

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your new job in comfort and g you get back or somebody, like I said, it takes a week to two weeks in places.

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We learn about chemicals, you know, what was dangerous and help deal with that. You have a section here for couple of days,

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the phone, sexual abuse, different kinds of sexual abuse and harassment. They did learn that every byte learn that.

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Now, like I said, different. Now was there was always a lot of overtime. Slow what volume of their own a line numbers over time.

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I want to be a driver and repair them and consumers, a lot of dumb. I had I had

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choices and I was there to make money is not going to make, you know, like a lot of time. There are a lot of guys that came up or it

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didn't realize they had a lot of time you had to do, but there's nothing for us to work 10 hours a day.

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And that was an ancillary. Sometimes. If they said, well, we're going to add to my collection two hours, three hours.

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What do you do you want it you say yes or no. Sometimes it's just plain mentor you just goodness, Taking your schedule. And that should tell you this and

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that and that that that overtime was offered by seniority. Sometimes. It depends what a lot of times

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in Mumbai the list can head to repair. They would fall this skirt around. Survivor, have a fair chance. I'll want it or not.

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There's a lot they tried to garnets to be fair that why? Well, I first want to Heather Pair Repulsion theory.

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They made all kinds of why. It was trying to be fair. I did a lot. I think that's about all I have.

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And conclude our UV with Joseph Peron for University of Delaware is Martial emperor.